Civic Type-r VS Mitsubishi Evo X???

**Type 100** · February 10th, 2008 12:30 PM

Originally Posted by deedee

i think the TS is trying to compare the newest model civic type-rr(mugen) with 260HP against the latest EVO-X
if thats the case..that two cars might be a closer comparison.even with the civic still having lower HP than the EVO...the civic is alot lighter than the EVO-x so it might actually give the EVO a run for its money.

Mismatch pa rin kahit gamitin mo yung Mugen Double-R.

You can't compare cars with just HP output alone.

**hungryalien** · February 10th, 2008 01:54 PM

well some people just love to compare civic to anything and everything out there.. cant blame them.. mas affordable nga yun civic. pang aspirational talaga :P

**Type 100** · February 10th, 2008 04:30 PM

The Evo X may have a 200-300 kg penalty over the FD2 Type R, but come on, it's not as if that's all pork fat. Much of that goes into the 4WD system, the torque-vectoring Super AYC/ACD differentials and the newfangled twin-clutch SST tranny if so fitted. All those alphabet-soup contraptions make the Evo X the quick, darty machine that it is.

Like I said, if you really want to beat an Evo X, turn your eyes to a JDM Impreza WRX STi. "Best Motoring" did in its June 2007 video issue. The new Scooby superhatch in JDM form out-drags, outsprints and outmaneuvers the Evo X, even with its trick double-clutch tranny. No such luck for the Yanks though.

**Type 100** · February 10th, 2008 11:21 PM

^ Correction: The Scooby vs. Evo X battle was filmed in the "Best Motoring" February 2008 video issue.

**yuichi** · February 11th, 2008 06:55 PM

Originally Posted by Type 100

The Evo X may have a 200-300 kg penalty over the FD2 Type R, but come on, it's not as if that's all pork fat. Much of that goes into the 4WD system, the torque-vectoring Super AYC/ACD differentials and the newfangled twin-clutch SST tranny if so fitted. All those alphabet-soup contraptions make the Evo X the quick, darty machine that it is.

Like I said, if you really want to beat an Evo X, turn your eyes to a JDM Impreza WRX STi. "Best Motoring" did in its June 2007 video issue. The new Scooby superhatch in JDM form out-drags, outsprints and outmaneuvers the Evo X, even with its trick double-clutch tranny. No such luck for the Yanks though.

Fly STI fly! saw that vid, it's not even close. that STI even outperformed the EvoIX. hope they'll bring that JDM STI here in our shores.

**AG4** · February 12th, 2008 12:52 AM

Originally Posted by yuichi

Fly STI fly! saw that vid, it's not even close. that STI even outperformed the EvoIX. hope they'll bring that JDM STI here in our shores.

I think the 2.0 liter JDM Impreza STI with a twin-scroll Turbo is only made in RHD form.
We'll most likely get the slightly heavier export market 2.5 liter Impreza STI with a single-scroll turbo similar to the ones recently launched in North America, Australia and Europe.

**Type 100** · February 12th, 2008 08:19 AM

Originally Posted by AG4

I think the 2.0 liter JDM Impreza STI with a twin-scroll Turbo is only made in RHD form.
We'll most likely get the slightly heavier export market 2.5 liter Impreza STI with a single-scroll turbo similar to the ones recently launched in North America, Australia and Europe.

Yep, unfortunately for Pinoy Evo X-baiters the 2.5L Scooby superhatch isn't as super as its JDM 2.0L cousin.

Road & Track already pitted these two rally reps against each other. Despite carrying more HP and torque, the LHD 2.5L Scooby can't match the Evo X on the strip or circuit, although they say it's the better everyday car of the two.

**IGNITED** · February 13th, 2008 10:19 PM

Originally Posted by dhel

uuhhhh... not a match categorically?

EVOs, and STIs are in the higher notch of the food chain.

When I'm still in the states the more popular match of the Civic Si (the Type R version in the U.S), is the Sentra SE-R.. lalo na during the time of the B15, where at a time it even surpassed the Civic Si as the tuner favorite in compacts. That explains the appearance of B15s on video games.

Hey don't forget the Volkswagen GTi, it's also usually compared together w/ the Sentra SE-R to the Civic Si in the west. They are the Si's natural rivals.

EvoX would be my choice here...

**Bogeyman** · February 13th, 2008 10:43 PM

AWD and rally heritage > VTEC and crappy body paint.

Thus sayeth the Mitsu fanboy.

**Jun aka Pekto** · February 14th, 2008 04:15 AM

Originally Posted by Type 100

Yep, unfortunately for Pinoy Evo X-baiters the 2.5L Scooby superhatch isn't as super as its JDM 2.0L cousin.

Road & Track already pitted these two rally reps against each other. Despite carrying more HP and torque, the LHD 2.5L Scooby can't match the Evo X on the strip or circuit, although they say it's the better everyday car of the two.

It's no big loss considering most buyers of STi's in the US rarely ever go to the track. The better everyday composure is much more important than that small performance disadvantage from the JDM version.

And for those who wants to do a semblance of racing, they're never happy with the stock STi's performance, anyway. Most go straight to the tuning shop. Case in point, my friend whose (previous gen) STi went straight from the dealership to the tuning shop he works at. His STi's up to 550hp.