City vs. Jazz

[myklvncnt]

I'm planning to buy a new car early next year and I, actually me and my wife, have decided to buy either a City 1.5 or a Jazz 1.5. I was just wondering if there is any significant difference between in terms of suspension and handling. Thanks in advance for any input.

[Type 100]

Suggestion ko mag-test drive muna kayo.

One criticism of the Jazz is it has a really firm ride. I don't notice it, but my dad thinks it's one of the most "matagtag" cars he's ever ridden in.

The upside of the Jazz's firm suspension is that it really resists understeer in high speed cornering. I can enter corners much faster and keep my exit speed high. When I used to drive an old 1999 City, I made the C5-SLEX offramp turn at 65 km/h; with the Jazz it can take 80 without changing lanes.

I'm not sure how much different the suspension tuning is with the City. You should find out for yourselves and see which car treats your butts better.

Another option you may have is to wait for the all-new GE-series Jazz to come in sometime in mid-2008, and test-drive that one. (The current Jazz and City use the "GD-series" chassis.) The GE Jazz is already sold in Japan as the Fit.

http://www.honda.co.jp/Fit/

[myklvncnt]

Thanks a lot for the input. All the while I thought the City had the stiffer ride. I think I'd prefer a softer ride in lieu of better handling. We've got a lot of bad roads here in Cavite and the only place I can go high speed is coastal road which is pretty much straight the whole way. Thanks again.

[Type 100]

Bro,
If it helps, I can point you to a local Jazz & City forum. You can try your luck there...everyone in that place drives a GD.
http://www.jazzcityunited.org

[myklvncnt]

Thanks man,
I haven't read all the posts in the forum yet but i got a lot of useful info.

[CVT]

It will all depend on your requirements and preferences. Wife and myself usually drive to work in our Jazz. We chose it over the City 3 years ago because we like the cargo that we can put in at the batch of this Great Hatch, which you can't in a regular sedan.

I remember buying a lot of electrical stuffs when we were building our 2nd house. The store helpers cannot believe it when we stacked up the back of our Jazz, with the rear seats folded with so much bulky electrical items, with a lot of room to spare. They were really amazed!.....

Also, when we moved from our old place to the new one, the Jazz carried 3 TV sets, a couple of stereos, with their speakers and other electronic stuffs at the back, again with a lot of room to spare.... I guess it's really amazing what you can do with the ULT of this Great Hatch. Our vans, pale in comparison (relatively), to the space that the Jazz can offer....

I suggest you get the Jazz, with the CVT option. Fun way to drive around. As for the ride, we're not bothered by it.... Will choose the Jazz over the City any day of the week.

Yup,- visit www.jazzcityunited.org....

5000:boom:

[niky]

From driving them, it seems that the Jazz has a slightly firmer ride and better body control (because of the more compact rear end)... but that's just my impression, and I could be wrong... it's been years since I last drove a City.

You can't really go wrong with either car... the City's huge trunk makes it a practical family car (my uncle takes theirs to Bicol all the time, and loads it with lots of produce for the homeward trip...)... but if just two of you are riding, the Jazz's ULT seats make it even more capable of cargo carrying (as the others have said).

My pick would be a 1.5 MT Jazz... great toy car, great commuting car. ;)

[myklvncnt]

Thanks for all the input. If it were up to me, I'd go for the Jazz too. But my wife doesn't like the way it looks. Anyway, the City's looks have improved a lot and the mags for the 2008 model looks better. I'll just save the extra 30k or so for a PS3

[Type 100]

Ahahaha!
Well hitsura lang yan. Kung oddly-shaped loads ang karga mo, mas okey nga ang Jazz. I'm 5'8" and sometimes I turn the folded rear seats and cargo area into a makeshift bed when I'm really sleepy.

The City's also a good car for big loads (no one can argue with a 500L trunk, you need a Merc S-Class to match that!), it's just not as versatile as the Jazz in swallowing stuff.

[CEREAL_KILLER]

nice read nice read... im also planning to get an i-dsi jazz for my wife... took a look around honda magallanes last week and theyre out of stock delivery date is indefinite but they did say that the new jazz will be out by march!

[Type 100]

FYI lang ah:
The i-DSI twin-spark system bows out of the GE-series Jazz/Fit. Both 1.3L and 1.5L engines use the same blocks, but will now run i-VTEC cylinder heads tuned for efficiency. Honda Japan now rates the Fit's 1.3L engine with the i-VTEC head at 100 HP.

I heard they also retuned the suspension, realizing the Jazz/Fit was "a little bit stiff."

[drey]

hmmm.

How much kaya ang GD Fit?

[Type 100]

Bro,
Ang GD Fit po yung current model Yung GE yung bago

To answer your question yung GD Fit 650-750k

[CVT]

Thanks for all the input. If it were up to me, I'd go for the Jazz too. But my wife doesn't like the way it looks. Anyway, the City's looks have improved a lot and the mags for the 2008 model looks better. I'll just save the extra 30k or so for a PS3

Please tell your wife that I do not agree with her.

The City's aesthetics still can't sink on me.... Well, maybe it's just me....

Pero sabi nga nila the way the City looks,- either you like it or you hate it .....

5000:boom:

[CVT]

FYI lang ah:
The i-DSI twin-spark system bows out of the GE-series Jazz/Fit. Both 1.3L and 1.5L engines use the same blocks, but will now run i-VTEC cylinder heads tuned for efficiency. Honda Japan now rates the Fit's 1.3L engine with the i-VTEC head at 100 HP.

Whew! this is not a good news for us iDSI "lean-burn" owners....

5000:boom:

[Type 100]

Actually matipid pa rin daw ang 1.3L i-VTEC engine ng GE Jazz. Honda Japan still rates it at 24 km/L, which is pretty much the same as the i-DSI version. (Some of us already know from experience it can do much more than 24 km/L.)

Ang kapansin-pansin lang na difference ng i-VTEC head, sa torque delivery. The i-DSI twin-spark engine makes max torque at a very low 2800 RPM, so the car accelerates well from low speeds. The i-VTEC version generates max torque at ~4500 RPM...in short, more like a traditional Honda engine.

[myklvncnt]

Placed our order for the car we're getting. A Jazz!

Hehehe. Too bad we've got to wait a while since there are no units available at this time. Can't wait to drive it.

I need a little help with what to inspect when we get our unit. Do I need to have somebody knowledgeable about cars with me when we get it?

I'd really appreciate it if somebody can give me a list of what to check when getting a brand new car. Thanks a bunch.

[Type 100]

Wow. Congrats on your new ride!

Paano mo na-convince si misis? Diba City yung gusto nya? Hehehe

[myklvncnt]

Took a lot of convincing but it was worth it.

Actually, everybody else she talked to asked why a City and not a Jazz.

Just got to wait for the phone call from the agent.

[WinLeon]

Me and my wife will be buying a car. I wanted a 2008 1.3 city CTV, wife wants the jazz, Which is the better overall car?? And if we do decided to get the Jazz, Do you guys when the 2008 model will be coming out? coz i heard the engine is already a vtec. Please help