Car Sales Data (2018)

[GTcervan]

You were asking for a higher tax for those cars without a direct manufacturing plant right? Ergo, that would steer away buyers to buy their cars because of high price. Meaning low sales for the car company. Meaning they would likely pull out operations here in the PH. Imagine a world without ford,mazda, subaru, kia, nissan, suzuki, chevy, etc sa PH. At ang matitira lang is toyota at mitsu, and to some extent hyundai, dahil afaik, sila ang may plant dito. Ikaw na ang nagsabi. Pag walang kalaban, no sense mag upgrade ng specs. Sino talo, consumer diba?

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You have a point regarding the competition here. 😂

[chronicle]

mitsubishi's box lancer.
for several years in the 80s, it was the only available brand new car in the market.
it remained un-changed locally, during those years, even as the rest of the world evolved.

Perfect example. I was too young then to know.
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You have a point regarding the competition here. [emoji23]

Thanks. Healthy competition is always good for consumers. Palakihan ng discount and pagandahan sa specs.

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[dr. d]

Perfect example. I was too young then to know.
[emoji16] Thanks. Healthy competition is always good for consumers. Palakihan ng discount and pagandahan sa specs.

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as an extreme example, take east germany's trabant.

[falken]

mitsubishi's box lancer.
for several years in the 80s, it was the only available brand new car in the market.
it remained un-changed locally, during those years, even as the rest of the world evolved.

I remember this, it was after the Edsa revolution. Delta Motors, the local assembler of Toyota ceased operations. It was only in the late 80's (1989?) when Toyota set up shop again in the Phil.

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[chronicle]

as an extreme example, take east germany's trabant.

Sumakit ulo ko habang binabasa ko wiki article about it. It is just that bad.

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[dr. d]

I remember this, it was after the Edsa revolution. Delta Motors, the local assembler of Toyota ceased operations. It was only in the late 80's (1989?) when Toyota set up shop again in the Phil.

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and it returned with a vengeance.
first the corolla small body.
then the immortal big body.

[dr. d]

Sumakit ulo ko habang binabasa ko wiki article about it. It is just that bad.

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east germany had the trabant. it remained largely in-house. it served the citizens adequately enough.
west germany had the volkswagen. it went out and conquered the world, in so widespread a scope, it would have made hisler cry in envy.

[dr. d]

I remember this, it was after the Edsa revolution. Delta Motors, the local assembler of Toyota ceased operations. It was only in the late 80's (1989?) when Toyota set up shop again in the Phil.

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i was able to get into our garage, one of delta motors' last models: a 1980s liftback.
despite the otherwise specs, it was, in truth, a 2 + 2, very handsome, with a good, smooth ride. "pang-binata!" a shame i had to get rid of her, when the babies started coming in. (i got a van.)
i can only imagine what we missed, between 1982 and 1989.

[falken]

i was able to get into my garage, a 1980s liftback.
a very handsome car, with a good, smooth ride. "pang-binata!"
i can only imagine what we missed, between 1982 and 1989.

Yeah, the Corolla liftback with the 2T engine. The design was pretty nice too.



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[Walter]

Magkaron sana ng batas na dapat mas mataas ang taxes ng mga sasakyan na walang manufacturing plant dito kesa sa mga may existing. Tulad ni Ford, pinenetrate lang ang market ng Pinas tapos lumayas. Mas maraming trabaho ang magagawa kung may manufacturing lahat.

Ford left because the government removed their incentives ... other southeast asian countries offer more incentives and are easier to deal with ...

[Walter]

Kaya nga mas dapat itaas ang taxes ng walang manufacturing plant para mapilitan yung iba na mag invest dito.

Imported vehicles have import tax ... locally manufactured don't ... that said, it is still cheaper and easier to manufacture them in Thailand / Indonesia and import ... compared to putting up a factory in the Philippines ...

[kagalingan]

kags,
someone just posted in the other thread,
the diesel is available.
it is the gas, that is not available.

doc saan thread... so in the first place wala pala talaga pila.... nag-aantay lang pala sa gasoline engine... kaslaanan ng honda yan hindi natancha...

tingnan mo doc ah..... nung launching last year eh ang dami nagsabi bebebta raw yung 1.9milyones at 1.7millon diesel.... yung gaso daw lalangawin...

tataka ako bakit nasabi nila lalangawin ang gaso eh jan nakilala crv... ang mga may-ari nyan nasanay sa swabe takbo hindi tunog lata garalgal.... natawa pa ako baka daw eventually idiscontinue gasoline variant...

ang hirap kasi makarinig lang ng diesel eh sabay na sa agos mga tao....

and sa price doc ang sama ng presyo ng diesel.... pag nakita na sa kalsada mukhang 1.3 milyon lang... saklap....

[dr. d]

doc saan thread... so in the first place wala pala talaga pila.... nag-aantay lang pala sa gasoline engine... kaslaanan ng honda yan hindi natancha...

tingnan mo doc ah..... nung launching last year eh ang dami nagsabi bebebta raw yung 1.9milyones at 1.7millon diesel.... yung gaso daw lalangawin...

tataka ako bakit nasabi nila lalangawin ang gaso eh jan nakilala crv... ang mga may-ari nyan nasanay sa swabe takbo hindi tunog lata garalgal.... natawa pa ako baka daw eventually idiscontinue gasoline variant...

ang hirap kasi makarinig lang ng diesel eh sabay na sa agos mga tao....

and sa price doc ang sama ng presyo ng diesel.... pag nakita na sa kalsada mukhang 1.3 milyon lang... saklap....

it would seem, your "facts" are but "fantasy".
huwag kang magalit sa honda because it did not agree with your script. get mad at your researcher.

at kung tihtira ka ng diesel, huwag yung bagong dating pa lang. they have still to prove/disprove themselves here. tirahin mo yung mga popular na diesel.

at wag na natin sitahin yung presyo. nag-lalasang maasim na ubas lang tayo.

[JJB]

Ilan ba nabenta na all-new CRV since launch?

[kagalingan]

doc ang akin lang naman kaya i kept on bugging this honda diesel eh ang dami nagpost na "pila daw"

kaya nandito pa din ako sa issue na ito....

kasi ang tunay na pila eh pag nagsale ang landers... yan definition ng pila... and ang pila nakikita dapat sa kalsada... nagiging word of mouth...

eh nangyari dito sa crv diesel pila sabi ni blogger.... sabi ng paid car website...

[dr. d]

doc ang akin lang naman kaya i kept on bugging this honda diesel eh ang dami nagpost na "pila daw"

kaya nandito pa din ako sa issue na ito....

kasi ang tunay na pila eh pag nagsale ang landers... yan definition ng pila... and ang pila nakikita dapat sa kalsada... nagiging word of mouth...

eh nangyari dito sa crv diesel pila sabi ni blogger.... sabi ng paid car website...

well, it does pay to have one's info checked first. instead of announcing "may pila nga!", ask "...is it true that...?"
otherwise, we end up being purveyor of fake news.

pa-landers landers ka pah... if you had 1.9M of cash to burn, you wouldn't get seen falling in a line where everyone else also had 1.9M in his pocket.
you'd just give your SA a call, ending with "call me when my unit is ready".

obviously, you were nowhere during the 2005s pila for the fortuner.
THAT was a pila, even as there were no actual line of folks to photograph and document for posterity.

[satori-san]

You were asking for a higher tax for those cars without a direct manufacturing plant right? Ergo, that would steer away buyers to buy their cars because of high price. Meaning low sales for the car company. Meaning they would likely pull out operations here in the PH. Imagine a world without ford,mazda, subaru, kia, nissan, suzuki, chevy, etc sa PH. At ang matitira lang is toyota at mitsu, and to some extent hyundai, dahil afaik, sila ang may plant dito. Ikaw na ang nagsabi. Pag walang kalaban, no sense mag upgrade ng specs. Sino talo, consumer diba?

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Exactly my point, kaya nga dapat magkaron sila ng manufacturing plant para hindi magmahal ang products nila, at kasalanan nila yun kung walang bumili sa kanila tutal wala naman silang napoproduce na trabaho dito sa Pilipinas, at kung gugustuhin naman ng tao ang produkto nila kahit gano kamahal yan bibilhin yan kaya kalokohan yang mga nag iimport lang, panggugulang yan sa bansa natin.

[satori-san]

Ford left because the government removed their incentives ... other southeast asian countries offer more incentives and are easier to deal with ...

Correct me if I'm wrong, Ford just penetrated our market, then after utilizing the tax holiday, they just left. Leaving their workers jobless. Then si Toyota naman, iyakin yan, konting di mapagbigyan ng government lumalayas, kaya I salute those manufacturers na hindi iniwan ang mga pinoy sa hirap at ginhawa.

[chronicle]

Exactly my point, kaya nga dapat magkaron sila ng manufacturing plant para hindi magmahal ang products nila, at kasalanan nila yun kung walang bumili sa kanila tutal wala naman silang napoproduce na trabaho dito sa Pilipinas, at kung gugustuhin naman ng tao ang produkto nila kahit gano kamahal yan bibilhin yan kaya kalokohan yang mga nag iimport lang, panggugulang yan sa bansa natin.

You are being too nationalistic. Sadly business / economy doesnt work that simply.

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[dr. d]

Correct me if I'm wrong, Ford just penetrated our market, then after utilizing the tax holiday, they just left. Leaving their workers jobless. Then si Toyota naman, iyakin yan, konting di mapagbigyan ng government lumalayas, kaya I salute those manufacturers na hindi iniwan ang mga pinoy sa hirap at ginhawa.

those were martial law times.
"news" were sanitized.
there were suspicions that much more were happening, that were not reported in the media.
we-who-were-there, we heard bits and pieces. but there was simply no way of verifying them.
even today, those in the know, are still "officially quiet".