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    Quote Originally Posted by jut703 View Post
    Which is why I think that the complaints about the ride quality are really blown out of proportion, at least based on my experience riding and driving the new Fort.
    Thais are complaining about the suspension. Theyre hoping for a suspension change for both hilux revo and the fortuner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kagalingan View Post
    Yung mga nakabili ng new civic mukhang nabiktima ng "First Look"

    Parang nasa hotel bar ka tapos meron pumasok na babae at gandang-ganda ka tulo laway mo. Sa sobra ka nabighani eh binahay mo agad pero after few months nalaman mo tinatago - suki ng plastic surgery (fake yung tangkad, retoke nguso, ilong, mata, boobs.....)

    At gusto mo umpog ulo mo kakaisip kung yung "meowny" baka peke din.
    Curious ako, ano prognosis mo sa Civic?

    Mahal, but good back seat space. Also, with the last model, seems to have problems with interior materials fading and cracking, time will tell for this model.

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    Kahit wala sa top 20 sales montero eh 10,786 units sold ibig sabihin madami-dami pa din mga bulag. With that saklay tail-light dapat mga 1,000 to 3,000 lang mabenta.

    Isa pang pangit ang likod eh civic. Maganda lang kurbada ng gilid kaya nakakalusot. Ang maganda likod mazda 3 sedan kaso duda ako sa afterservice. Pang cabaret level pa lotion or powder.

    Tataka din ako sa mga nagdesign kotse hindi nagfofocus sa likod eh 99% yan una nakikita car buyer. Whether nasa traffic ka or freeway eh likod makikita natin. Maganda ijudge looks kotse sa gabi pag umaandar 20 to 40 kph with lights on.

    Pag sa casa kasi stationary lang kotse, nadadala ka excitement at nakakadistract yung mga ahenteng chicks so not reliable ang judgement.

    Ang harap and sides ang nakakapansin nyan eh non-car buyer like toll both operator, traffic enforcer.

    Example alam nyo naman na saklay tawag ko sa rear montero. Pero kanina may bago pumasok sa isip ko. Sa intersection meron ako kasalubong na pakanan, tataka ako tapos na pasko bakit may umiilaw na christams candy cane eh montero pala.




    Lupet ng montero !!! Hindi lang pang orthopedic pang frosty the snowman pa.

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    #244
    Quote Originally Posted by jut703 View Post
    Agree. This part really looks so slab-sided:



    Although adding a spoiler and covering the droopy tail lamps improves the aesthetics significantly.

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    Saan kaya yun driver sa pic na yan? Hehe

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    #245
    *kagalingan maganda ang hirit mo. Tumpak!
    Malalaman ko kung ok ang aftersales ng mazda nxt week.

    Ewan ko lang how bad can it go when yojin 3 runs out. Ü

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    #246
    Quote Originally Posted by StockEngine View Post
    Thais are complaining about the suspension. Theyre hoping for a suspension change for both hilux revo and the fortuner.

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    Sooo.. Bouncy pa rin talaga... Kahit na 5 nakaupo

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    Quote Originally Posted by istan View Post
    Sooo.. Bouncy pa rin talaga... Kahit na 5 nakaupo

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    That's the "bounce of money" bro.😉

    Yeah!

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    #249
    Quote Originally Posted by kagalingan View Post
    Kahit wala sa top 20 sales montero eh 10,786 units sold ibig sabihin madami-dami pa din mga bulag. With that saklay tail-light dapat mga 1,000 to 3,000 lang mabenta.

    Isa pang pangit ang likod eh civic. Maganda lang kurbada ng gilid kaya nakakalusot. Ang maganda likod mazda 3 sedan kaso duda ako sa afterservice. Pang cabaret level pa lotion or powder.

    Tataka din ako sa mga nagdesign kotse hindi nagfofocus sa likod eh 99% yan una nakikita car buyer. Whether nasa traffic ka or freeway eh likod makikita natin. Maganda ijudge looks kotse sa gabi pag umaandar 20 to 40 kph with lights on.

    Pag sa casa kasi stationary lang kotse, nadadala ka excitement at nakakadistract yung mga ahenteng chicks so not reliable ang judgement.

    Ang harap and sides ang nakakapansin nyan eh non-car buyer like toll both operator, traffic enforcer.

    Example alam nyo naman na saklay tawag ko sa rear montero. Pero kanina may bago pumasok sa isip ko. Sa intersection meron ako kasalubong na pakanan, tataka ako tapos na pasko bakit may umiilaw na christams candy cane eh montero pala.




    Lupet ng montero !!! Hindi lang pang orthopedic pang frosty the snowman pa.
    anlaki ng problema mo magbigti ka na lang kaya

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    #250
    Quote Originally Posted by kagalingan View Post


    Isa pang pangit ang likod eh civic. Maganda lang kurbada ng gilid kaya nakakalusot. Ang maganda likod mazda 3 sedan kaso duda ako sa afterservice. Pang cabaret level pa lotion or powder.

    Tataka din ako sa mga nagdesign kotse hindi nagfofocus sa likod eh 99% yan una nakikita car buyer. Whether nasa traffic ka or freeway eh likod makikita natin. Maganda ijudge looks kotse sa gabi pag umaandar 20 to 40 kph with lights on. [
    There must have been a changing of the guards at Honda or their design philosophy has changed.

    I remember years ago when one of their highest officers was stating in his interview that they give the most attention to their rear design because that particular part is seen almost all of the times.

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    #251
    ARB also has a kit for the current Fort.

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    #252
    Quote Originally Posted by Syuryuken View Post
    anlaki ng problema mo magbigti ka na lang kaya

    wag mo nang patulan, alam mong loser yan...papatulan mo pa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CVT View Post
    There must have been a changing of the guards at Honda or their design philosophy has changed.

    I remember years ago when one of their highest officers was stating in his interview that they give the most attention to their rear design because that particular part is seen almost all of the times.
    I think the current Civic's rear is its most eye-catching angle. 😍

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    #254
    Honda Civic rear is too cluttered ... Mazda 3 hatch has a cleaner look ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jut703 View Post
    I wondee what was the bigger factor, SUA or that ugly rear?

    During casual conversations with friends, it's the design that turns them off more. In fact I've never heard a friend say, "bibili sana ako Montero kaso baka ma-SUA ako eh".

    And interestingly, despite all the hate that Tsikoteers have for the Fortuner, this year is its biggest year so far with the largest gap between its competitors. Which is why I think that the complaints about the ride quality are really blown out of proportion, at least based on my experience riding and driving the new Fort.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CVT View Post
    And because of a comment from bro minicarph. I have a few friends who turned away from the MS because of that.... They instead purchased one of the other three...
    Mitsu should beat the market na with position pricing, for instance the GLS is so stripped down, why not just beat the MUX 2.5 pricing at 1.33M

    if Mitsu offers GLS AT at 1.2M net and GLX MT 1.1M, sigurado tatalunin nya buong PPV 2017 market fugly rear or not. remember they still have the most reliable engine around

    with that pricing, Mitsu will also affect the sales of the Innova and the would-be buyers of the BRV, kase 200K na lang naka-diesel at higher ground clearance na.


    let's face it, the PPV circa 2016 novelty has worn down. familiar na satin lahat ang latest Fortuner, Montero, MUX and Everest. facelift won't cut it coz look at what happened to trailblazer, the facelift is so sad in terms of sales


    c'mon Mitsu do your thing now. and then silently produce the Ecosport counterpart at less than 1M,, that's one market Mitsu should concnetrate on if they want to grab the future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by minicarph View Post
    Mitsu should beat the market na with position pricing, for instance the GLS is so stripped down, why not just beat the MUX 2.5 pricing at 1.33M

    if Mitsu offers GLS AT at 1.2M net and GLX MT 1.1M, sigurado tatalunin nya buong PPV 2017 market fugly rear or not. remember they still have the most reliable engine around

    with that pricing, Mitsu will also affect the sales of the Innova and the would-be buyers of the BRV, kase 200K na lang naka-diesel at higher ground clearance na.


    let's face it, the PPV circa 2016 novelty has worn down. familiar na satin lahat ang latest Fortuner, Montero, MUX and Everest. facelift won't cut it coz look at what happened to trailblazer, the facelift is so sad in terms of sales


    c'mon Mitsu do your thing now. and then silently produce the Ecosport counterpart at less than 1M,, that's one market Mitsu should concnetrate on if they want to grab the future.

    In 2014, 16744 montero sports were sold. In 2013 i think there was a month where they sold over 1500.

    2015 sales reports are skewed. 11k were sold in 9 months(jan-sep 2015). Its probably around 14k if pro-graded (is that even a term) toyota sold 14.5k (jan-sept2015)

    2016 10768 sold - im betting the old gen monteros weren't included in this figure. I still think mitsubishi still sold more than the eve and the mux. I wish mitsu would help themselves here by correcting the figures.

    The 7% sales drop is incorrect from myk. I think its double figures. My guess is more than 20% sales drop compared to last year.

    Now its 2017-their doom year. they will really suck even more. No more old gen monteros to add 3-5k units to their annual tally. If our suggestions do happen, they might have a chance on cracking 15k units again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StockEngine View Post
    In 2014, 16744 montero sports were sold. In 2013 i think there was a month where they sold over 1500.

    2015 sales reports are skewed. 11k were sold in 9 months(jan-sep 2015). Its probably around 14k if pro-graded (is that even a term) toyota sold 14.5k (jan-sept2015)

    2016 10768 sold - im betting the old gen monteros weren't included in this figure. I still think mitsubishi still sold more than the eve and the mux. I wish mitsu would help themselves here by correcting the figures.

    The 7% sales drop is incorrect from myk. I think its double figures. My guess is more than 20% sales drop compared to last year.

    Now its 2017-their doom year. they will really suck even more. No more old gen monteros to add 3-5k units to their annual tally. If our suggestions do happen, they might have a chance on cracking 15k units again.
    everyone I know don't like the rear pero kung difference ng 100k to 150K sa cheaper MUX or Everest, gumaganda rear

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