Can't decide: 2012 Ford Focus, Honda City, Lancer EX?

[mda]

Pati ba ang Rio kumakatok na rin?

Or assumption lang na PWEDE sila kumatok kasi same engine lang sila ng Accent?

Una akala ko yung Accent lang; tapos may nagpost sa accent engine knock thread, pati Rio meron. Pinalitan yung ECU, may 10K charge pa. Malay ko baket hahaha.

[renzo_d10]

Una akala ko yung Accent lang; tapos may nagpost sa accent engine knock thread, pati Rio meron. Pinalitan yung ECU, may 10K charge pa. Malay ko baket hahaha.

Ay...

Sana isolated lang. Kung hindi, tumama nanaman pala hinala ko na hindi saved sa problema na yan ang Rio.

[mda]

Ay...

Sana isolated lang. Kung hindi, tumama nanaman pala hinala ko na hindi saved sa problema na yan ang Rio.

Sana nga isolated lang - pero I'm biased against the idea since proven kumakatok na yung Accent Gamma 1.4.

Where's the Lemon Law when you need it?

[Samm]

sana isolated nga lang ung katok issues... but we can't disregard n meron naman tlgang tinatawag na "factory defect"..it happens most of the time...good thing about it is hindi pa naman nagkakaroon ng mass Recall for Accent, so we'll assume for now isolated pa lang ung case

[mda]

good thing about it is hindi pa naman nagkakaroon ng mass Recall for Accent, so we'll assume for now isolated pa lang ung case

For Accent owners with the issue, it's actually a bad thing na wala pang recall.

Di pa maayos-ayos e.

Having no knocking when using Premium fuel is hardly a fix to be honest.

Lahat ng lumang kotse namin masaya sa pinakamurang unleaded. Ba't kelangan ng Premium yung Accent?

[renzo_d10]

sana isolated nga lang ung katok issues... but we can't disregard n meron naman tlgang tinatawag na "factory defect"..it happens most of the time...good thing about it is hindi pa naman nagkakaroon ng mass Recall for Accent, so we'll assume for now isolated pa lang ung case

Having no recalls for the Accent is actually a bad thing. Hyundai just keeps on doing makeshifts in order to show that they are doing something.

Nothing seem to correct the problem. Marami na naging ECU upgrade pero meron pa rin problems such as low power, engine knocking & ridiculously high fuel consumption.

Most likely they won't do a recall, at all. Malamang puro ECU upgrade and other bullshit nalang gagawin ng Hyundai to temporarily repair the problem.

Some are lucky that the problem is fixed by using a different kind of fuel while some doesn't share the same fate.

[Samm]

there are certain things that are built or meant for one another. . . gaano na ba karami ung Accent owners na meron problema sa knocking issue...kc alam ko pag nagkaroon ng Recall ang 1 company sa product nila is mataas na ang ratio ng actual units built vs # of reported defects. for the case of Hyundai...etong series lang ng Accent lumabas ung knocking issue and hindi pa alarming un numbers para magraise sila for Recall
bakit nga kaya pag Premium gas ang gamit ng Accent naayus ang problema nila...parang Computer lang cguro yan... ndi Compatible ung OS sa CPU ( hindi ka pede gumamit ng Win XP sa Higher models ng CPU, Win 7 lang pede)

[renzo_d10]

Sa lahat ng Accent owners dito sa tsikot, 3-5 lang yata ang nag-cclaim* na wala sila.

Meron kasi mga tao na maaring hindi rin alam na kumakatok na pala ang makina nila or naglolow-power talaga.

Only people who's really into cars, such as us, notice simple mishaps on our vehicles. Some just simply ignore it.

Pano naman yung mga taong total noob sa kotse diba, tapos bumili na pala ng Accent then kumatok. Alam niya ba kung ano tunog ng katok at kung naglolow-power nga ang Accent?

*some even claim that they experienced low-power on several instances

[mda]

Sir Renzo has aleady mentioned most of what I would have said.

But a few things I'd like to comment on:

etong series lang ng Accent lumabas ung knocking issue and hindi pa alarming un numbers para magraise sila for Recall

Uh, baka ayaw lang ni HARI masira yung reputation niya by simply covering up? Maybe they don't even know the solution to the problem (LIKELY)? Doing what Toyota [Unintended Acceleration] and Mitsubishi [Various Manufacturing Defects] did in the past?

Hindi pa alarming yung numbers? Kapag isolated case, iisa isa lang mag ppost yung mga tao. Pero sa Tsikot palang andami nang nagppost regarding a faint engine noise or low power. Paano kaya yung mga kawawang mangmang na binentahan ni HARI ng lemon?

bakit nga kaya pag Premium gas ang gamit ng Accent naayus ang problema nila...parang Computer lang cguro yan... ndi Compatible ung OS sa CPU ( hindi ka pede gumamit ng Win XP sa Higher models ng CPU, Win 7 lang pede)

You fail to realize the point. The Accent is an ECONO car.

The main selling point of the Econo car class is to maximize space, and minimize operating costs, fuel included. Kung ganun, bilhin mo nalang yung Elantra 1.6MT, in the long run baka mas mura pa yung fuel costs mo sa pag gas ng Unleaded sa Elantra vs Premium sa Accent.

And by the way, pwede parin gumamit ng Win XP sa higher models ng CPU.


Staying on topic:

Let's wait for the Ford Focus. I saw one abroad. It's actually a bit of a looker, even the extended hatch variant.

[ram_dlsu]

Sincerely appreciate your comments. Honestly, as this is my first time to buy a car, I wouldn't know what the first and most important consideration should be in buying a car? For now what I would want is a cool, fast, and powerful car within the 850k budget. I've test-driven the City and the Focus. Both are ok as regards maneuverability. City felt like its manipis, while the Focus has a more STURDY feel.

If you want something cool, fast and powerful. sa choices mo panalo talaga c Lancer EX. kaso, its 900K+ ata.

For a first time car, I think practicality and reliability are top priorities for me. I think i'd like something na d hassle masyado imaintain at fuel efficient with the prices of gasoline these days.

So I'd probably pick the City for a first time car with your budget on your comparo. Either City or a Ford Fiesta. I think the Fiesta gives a better package compared to the base Focus.