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    #41
    If the budget fits i'll get a kia soul crdi..

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    Quote Originally Posted by butch08 View Post
    Hi all! Big thanks for all your thoughts. Now I'm close to ditching the ecosport deal considering all your inputs. haha!

    I'm now seriously considering Grand Vitara 2.4L, also the Nissan Juke 1.6 and the Hyundai Accent Hatch 1.6L CRDI GL A/T. At least medyo na-narrow down into three ang options ko.

    I'm now close to buying Accent considering its high torque for a hatch (and read good reviews about it), and ofcouse, way cheaper. haha But my only concern is that Hyundai cars are Korea manufactured. Okay ba ang Korean cars compared to Jap cars? Coz if not, I might consider the Vitara or Juke.
    The Hyundai is fine. I hear issues here and there (a friend had service related issues with Hyundai Alabang) and from my experience before, pasensyahan talaga with some small warranty claims (defective power window switch) but overall we're still happy with the Hyundai we have (a 2009 Tucson CRDi).

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    Re: Ecosport.

    I find myself at the tail-end of some lately.

    All seem to "jerk" in stop and go traffic, be it old (plated) or new models (cond. sticker).

    Just my observation.

    Though its a PITA to drive a jerky car, IMHO.

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    #44
    Quote Originally Posted by yapoy86 View Post
    If the budget fits i'll get a kia soul crdi..

    Avoid used Korean vehicles ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walter View Post
    Avoid used Korean vehicles ...
    Hehe...among the victims, Walter sir?[emoji53]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walter View Post
    Avoid used Korean vehicles ...
    personally, i'd avoid even brand new ones.
    personal choice lang.

    heh heh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    personally, i'd avoid even brand new ones.
    personal choice lang.

    heh heh.
    Is it ok to be racists here, doc?[emoji16]

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    #48
    Quote Originally Posted by travajante View Post
    Is it ok to be racists here, doc?[emoji16]

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    my choice has nothing to do with race; only (perceived) product quality vis a vis cost.
    i'd buy a timbuktu special, if i thought it offered good product package quality at competitive price.
    heh heh.
    Last edited by dr. d; November 9th, 2017 at 12:41 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    my choice has nothing to do with race; only (perceived) product quality.
    Kiddin', doc.[emoji4]

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    Quote Originally Posted by travajante View Post
    Kiddin', doc.[emoji4]

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    of course i know that!
    kayo pah! level-headed and all, you are.
    heh heh heh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    of course i know that!
    kayo pah! level-headed and all, you are.
    heh heh heh.
    Honestly, your opinion is shared here, doc. They gained ground in the North American market w/ creative offers, extended warranties, celebrity endorsers, Peter Schreyer & all....but, we just don't have their roads, their traffic conditions, their climate, their maintenance discipline/standards, etc....Let's continue to give em more time. They should soon get theirs to age well here.[emoji4]

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    Quote Originally Posted by travajante View Post
    Honestly, your opinion is shared here, doc. They gained ground in the North American market w/ creative offers, extended warranties, celebrity endorsers, Peter Schreyer & all....but, we just don't have their roads, their traffic conditions, their climate, their maintenance discipline/standards, etc....Let's continue to give em more time. They should soon get theirs to age well here.[emoji4]

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    also, consumers' rights in the usa have more teeth than ours.

    i have bought china-made products in the usa. their quality is top-rate over there!

    OT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    also, consumers' rights in the usa have more teeth than ours.

    i have bought china-made products in the usa. their quality is top-rate over there!

    OT.
    True![emoji4]

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    ang sumira lang naman ng reputation ng hyundai was h.a.r i. with their overpriced parts and services. add to that their greedy marketting that priced their products way above the competition.

    as for kia, my experience with them is quite good. kia philippines honors warranties and parts costs are reasonable. example, a rear abs sensor unit (this is the whole rear assembly complete with wheel bearings) cost only p8.5k labor included. if i had just kept my warranty after the 3 years then free pa sana since the part was covered under the extended 5 year warranty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by travajante View Post
    Hehe...among the victims, Walter sir?[emoji53]

    Have a lot of friends complaining about their Korean vehicles ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by travajante View Post
    Is it ok to be racists here, doc?[emoji16]

    I don't think the Doc goes racing ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walter View Post
    I don't think the Doc goes racing ...
    Hehehe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by

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    I don't think the Doc goes racing ...
    is that what was meant by racist? racing?
    iba na ang ex gen...

    and no, i don't race.
    i love life too much.
    heh heh heh.
    Last edited by dr. d; November 10th, 2017 at 12:46 AM.

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    #58
    Re. Ecosport, i've driven the manual transmission variant and i find it lethargic. Given you are based up in the mountains, get a diesel as the low-end torque will really be welcome.

    Quote Originally Posted by yebo View Post
    ang sumira lang naman ng reputation ng hyundai was h.a.r i. with their overpriced parts and services. add to that their greedy marketting that priced their products way above the competition.

    as for kia, my experience with them is quite good. kia philippines honors warranties and parts costs are reasonable. example, a rear abs sensor unit (this is the whole rear assembly complete with wheel bearings) cost only p8.5k labor included. if i had just kept my warranty after the 3 years then free pa sana since the part was covered under the extended 5 year warranty.
    Same thoughts and observations here. My friend who had some issues with his Starex was not miffed off about the issues of the car (which happens to other brands) but how the Hyundai Dealer handled the job. I'm happy with our old Tucson and i don't go for servicing at the dealer anyway, and most parts are available at my suking tindahan.

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    #59
    On my trip to Snowy Mountains a couple of years back (4wd is required once the snow falls, if your car is only 2wd you will need tire chains)

    Common car for Pinoy tourists... Rav-4

    Common car (brand) for locals... Subaru

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    #60
    I just tested the cvt just now on some really steep stuff. no issues and its super smooth.

    the cvt advantage is that the infinite gear/ratio will always get whatever you require. medium speed uphill or highway the cvt will choose the right ratio depending on your pedal position.

    if youve tried a manual tranny or a 4spd auto. remember when the transmission shifts down to 2nd gear or 1st to find that required torque.. it is so old school compared to this cvt.

    go for mobilio or brv. the mobilio will have a slightly better power to weight ratio. the brv will have a different cvt programming. and a higher ground clearance. get a cvt vehicle with a reverse camera 😉

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    Last edited by StockEngine; November 11th, 2017 at 04:13 AM.

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