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**yebo** · February 10th, 2014 04:05 PM

wednesday pa uwi ko mga sirs, thursday or friday may picture na yan

kaya nga medyo napapaisip ako sa roller lid, baka yung tri-fold cover ang kunin ko. mahirap kasi kung fiberglass cover baka meron ako ikakarga na mataas e di aalisin ko pa, pag roller lid hindi na. meron daw yung plastic ang case para di mag-rust. ayaw ko naman ng canopy, besides sa mahal (i got a quote from carryboy, 66k yung cbs 560n) e aalisin ko din pag may karga na mataas and parang nawala yung pagka-pick up naging suv na ang porma.

**IMm29** · February 10th, 2014 04:28 PM

Anything but a canopy bro. Nawala ang pagka-macho nung pick up.

Ok din yung tri-fold, kamusta kaya ang security nun? Roller lid's been problematic, plus it does eat into the cargo space.

**rna800** · February 11th, 2014 02:34 PM

Originally Posted by IMm29

Peekchur!

yebo, roller lid's been reportedly problematic. proceed with caution.

Im so with you on this, sir IMm29. Sobrang problematic talaga yan pag lumuma at nag rust na. Hindi na yan magri retract and close. Pati remote niya magiging useless and you will end up with the so called override button.

Plus its casing eats up a lot of space on the bed.

Ung akin I replaced it with ung sa Ride Inc, ung manual na. Same with the roller lid lalo nung lumuma na. Ang maganda lang pag ayaw mag retract, I will just remove the cover, spray WD40 and with a little help, mare retract na ulit. Then push and pull until it loosens up. And ung casing niya, it doesn't eat up as much space as the roller lid.

**IMm29** · February 11th, 2014 02:53 PM

*rna800,

So you've gone with the manual Roller lid of Ride?

**yebo** · February 11th, 2014 04:20 PM

manual din yung balak ko, either gatorglide or aeroclass.

pag WD40 kasi nageevaporate lang saka nawa-wash out ng water. dapat siguro yung high temperature silicon lubricant spray para di mag-evaporate at mas makapit.

bwisit na eastwest bank ang daming requirements, delayed release tuloy. switching to psbank na lang, sa suki.

**yebo** · February 11th, 2014 04:53 PM

does anyone know campershell's rolltop cover? style roller lid din daw with a vinyl layer. baka mas waterproof kung may layer ng vinyl on top of the aluminum panels?

pace edwards pala ito.

**rna800** · February 11th, 2014 08:00 PM

Originally Posted by IMm29

*rna800,

So you've gone with the manual Roller lid of Ride?

Yes sir IMm29, my Dmax has the manual roll top from Ride Inc. The brand is Pace Edwards.

Back in 08, after getting my truck from the dealership, I brought it straight to Carryboy for them to spray the bed liner and that roller lid. I didn't really like that roller lid at first coz from my experience in PE roll top that was on my Mazda B2500, once it gets old, the part that rolls gets rusty and it will be very hard to retract. But I bit the bullet and went ahead thinking that since it's a new product, it might be different. I was wrong.

From the installation, it was problematic already. The key didn't work properly, the module always malfunctioned, etc.

That was around August of 08. After about 2.5 yrs, it suddenly got stuck and didn't wanna retract anymore. I called Carryboy and asked if they repair. They said that I should try to bring it to a shop somewhere in E. Rod. I am like, "why can't I just bring it there?" They said that they don't repair in their shop in Banawe. F*ck!

To my dismay, I went to Ride and had it dismantled and replaced it with Pace Edwards roll top.

3 yrs after, my PE roll top is getting problematic with retracting. Like what I have said, I have to remove the cover first, spray a lubricant and help it retract. But after that, it will be good again until the next car wash. But at least there is still a way to push and pull it even if it's like that unlike the roller lid.

Their common denominator is they are not water proof. So if it's raining so hard, don't put anything there that you don't wanna get wet.

**rna800** · February 11th, 2014 08:04 PM

Originally Posted by yebo

does anyone know campershell's rolltop cover? style roller lid din daw with a vinyl layer. baka mas waterproof kung may layer ng vinyl on top of the aluminum panels?

pace edwards pala ito.

Mukhang PE nga yan, sir yebo, and that is what I have installed in my truck since I replaced my Carryboy roller lid since 2011.

Sad to say, hindi siya waterproof, sir. Lalo pag malakas ang ulan. Kahit ubusin and ilang patong sealant pa ang gawin nila diyan, papasok padin ang tubig.

Pag bago pa, minimal lang ang leak. Pag medyo luma na, mga more than a yr na, mababasa na ang buong bed. Pero pag ung mga light rains lang, hindi naman masyadong basa.

**yebo** · February 11th, 2014 09:13 PM

ma800,

Wala din kasi akong ibang options maliban sa solid frp tonneau, e ayaw ko at kung may dala na mataas aalisin pa yung tonneau. Pwede kaya pag umuulan at may di pwede mabasa e lagyan ng tarp sa loob?

na try mo na silicon lubricant spray instead of wd40? Yun gamit ko sa sliding door ng starex saka door hinges, mas kumakapit siya at di nawa-wash out pag nag car wash.

**rna800** · February 11th, 2014 11:00 PM

*yebo: Hindi ko pa natry, sir, ung silicon lubricant spray. Una ung engine oil. Since may extra RP oils ako, I tried that to lubricate pero wala din. So I tried WD40, ganon pa din. Pagka car wash kasi, ung casing nun, doon pumupunta ung tubig and hindi naman water tight un so water can seep in the sides of the cover. Sa age na din siguro nung roll top, once na mapasok ng tubig, magra rust agad and titigas. So what I would do is before washing the car, I retract it first. Pag naman naka retract siya, pwede naman mahila kahit di ko tanggalin ung cover. Unlike the other way around.

Pinili ko din ang roll top kasi di ko din type ung may hard cover or anything that can limit a height of a stuff that I can put on the bed. Pag kasi may mga ganon, pag anything na mas mataas, hindi na pwede. Unlike this, open and close lang.

Pero un lang may trade off; it's not waterproof and pag lumuma, mahirap din iopen and close. Pero sanayan lang yan.

Na try ko din ung parang canvas where you will snap it. Hindi ko type kasi you can't put anything important on the bed kasi you just unsnap it, bukas na. Yung roll top kasi may key and matigas siya so you need to totally wreck it para nakawin mo ung laman ng bed.

Pag umuulan, pwede mong balutin ung stuff that shouldn't get wet. Ganyan ang ginagawa namin sa sacks of rice. Or, put stacks of wood where you can place your stuff. Hindi naman nanggagaling ung water in between the aluminum bars but from the sides and drainage niya. So yung floor ng bed ang nababasa talaga.

Sa roller lid, if I recall, pumapasok ata ung tubig in between the bars kasi nung umulan noon, pati ung bags na on top of other bags, basang basa din.