Brand new Toyota Super Grandia Elite vs. 2nd hand Toyota Alphard

**ronw123w124** · January 4th, 2020 08:38 PM

Happy new year to all! I’m thinking about replacing our Grand Starex with a newer van, At first we have had our eyes set on the new Super Grandia Elite, but I rode an Alphard recently and really liked the ride and the toys inside however I’m not a fan of the current Gen Alphard, I like the previous model better looks wise, fuel consumption is not much of an issue either since its mainly a long distance cruiser and coding car.

**sirkosero** · January 5th, 2020 12:05 AM

Originally Posted by ronw123w124

Happy new year to all! I’m thinking about replacing our Grand Starex with a newer van, At first we have had our eyes set on the new Super Grandia Elite, but I rode an Alphard recently and really liked the ride and the toys inside however I’m not a fan of the current Gen Alphard, I like the previous model better looks wise, fuel consumption is not much of an issue either since its mainly a long distance cruiser and coding car.

If you dont mind having a gas engine, challenging spare parts and being mistaken for a POGO employee (or driver) alphard ka na. Else, grandia.

Love the alphard. Yun gamit namin sa hong kong.

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**StockEngine** · January 5th, 2020 01:33 AM

Go for the diesel. When fully loaded you're better off with the diesel.

Test drive the diesel maybe the suspension is ok for you.

**ronw123w124** · January 5th, 2020 01:57 AM

Thanks for your inputs guys, another thing na ayaw ko sa Super Grandia sa ngayon eh yung mga sugapang dealers na pipilitin ka ng in house financing saka accessories na pagkamahal mahal

**StockEngine** · January 5th, 2020 02:00 AM

Originally Posted by ronw123w124

Thanks for your inputs guys, another thing na ayaw ko sa Super Grandia sa ngayon eh yung mga sugapang dealers na pipilitin ka ng in house financing saka accessories na pagkamahal mahal

It's a hot seller. These toyota sales reps are the worst of the worst kinds..

**jut703** · January 5th, 2020 04:57 AM

Originally Posted by StockEngine

It's a hot seller. These toyota sales reps are the worst of the worst kinds..

It's not the salesman that's the problem - it's the system and the policy. Time and time again, when a hot selling model arrives, dealerships squeeze out the most by getting people to go in-house and buy a lot of dealer accessories.

This is because margins are generally low for car sales (~5% per car). Likewise, commissions of sales agents are also very low for vehicle sales alone. Dealerships make a killing out of financing and accessories, so salespeople also get higher incentives when they push for that.

It's natural for a capitalist business to maximize profits when they can. With demand higher than supply, the supply will always go to the one with the highest willingness to pay.

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**StockEngine** · January 5th, 2020 06:53 AM

Originally Posted by jut703

It's not the salesman that's the problem - it's the system and the policy. Time and time again, when a hot selling model arrives, dealerships squeeze out the most by getting people to go in-house and buy a lot of dealer accessories.

This is because margins are generally low for car sales (~5% per car). Likewise, commissions of sales agents are also very low for vehicle sales alone. Dealerships make a killing out of financing and accessories, so salespeople also get higher incentives when they push for that.

It's natural for a capitalist business to maximize profits when they can. With demand higher than supply, the supply will always go to the one with the highest willingness to pay.

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These asshats represent toyota. Fuk them and their shytty system.

**EQAddict** · January 5th, 2020 08:26 AM

I brought my family to toyora E Rodriguez a few days ago. We looked at the Super Grandia. And i happened to inquire about the Elite version. The manager told me i can only get moved up the proverbial list if i do two things:

1. Get in house financing (i was expecting this)
2. Get a 2018 (yes 2018) Innova G.

LoL. i was actually shell shocked that they would think id pay an extra 1.5m to get a car i dont need to buy that version. Talk about gouging your custoners.......

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**jaggerx3** · January 5th, 2020 08:42 AM

If only grey market people have this. It would be better option

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**yapoy86** · January 5th, 2020 09:26 AM

Originally Posted by jaggerx3

If only grey market people have this. It would be better option

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Oras kasi ang kalaban... hintay lang at mawawala din ang hype nyan grandia.. like nung lumabas ang all new fortuner.. kay haba ng pila eh ngaun laki na ng discount..