Reconditioned Norkis "Maverick"? 99 Opel Tigra?

[jimbaud]

magandang araw po!

hingi lang sana ako ng advice and opinion ng tsikoteers

konting background lang po for context:
medyo limited ang budget for outright payment (mga 60k max),
pero kaya ko naman magmonthly payments at 10k-13k,
kaya naisipan kong kumuha ng used car loan.

i'm thinking of getting the reconditioned Norkis "Maverick" (rebadged Nissan Micra) or a 99 Opel Tigra. Dalawa lang kami usually ng girlfriend ko, and its just for getting around the metro really. (biyaheng Mandaluyong - QC, occasional long drive to Tagaytay and Lake Caliraya)
compact car naisip ko dahil natrauma na ko negotiating traffic & parking my 76 Kombi (which is for sale pala, 30k lang!)

opinion naman po:
- with 6 months warranty lang yung Maverick, widely available naman ang Nissan surplus parts diba?
- kamusta po kaya ang maintenance and fuel efficiency ng Tigra?

salamat!

[hitomi]

galing bang japan yung micra? mahirap po ata ang piyesa nun.
meron kaming serena dati galing japan, hirap maghanap ng piyesa. halimbawa, pina-modify ko pa brake shoes na rico ang brand para puwedeng ikabit.

ang tigra naman opel, ang opel ay GM, kaya US/Euro pricing ang piyesa at pagawa. limitado pa ang puwesto na naggagawa nun. (pero kung desidido ka, may opel club philippines sa internet)

'sensya na po kung medyo negatibo yung opinyon ko.
sa positibo naman, sa pera mong iyan puwede kana sa brand new na kotse, madaming pagpipilian. (hyundai getz/kia picanto for example, atbp.)

[Syuryuken]

Kung ako sayo bibili na lang ako ng Kia Pride LX or GTX hindi ka mahihirapan sa parts sobrang mura pa. Meron ngayon sa Tsikot Carfinder 80K yata negotiable pa.

[BlueBimmer]

bnew car loan ka nalang, kia picanto

[space invader]

bro, mag kia picanto ka nlang or hyundai getz.. balak din ksi nmin bumili rin ng compact car and i think yung 2 yan ang ok sa market ngayon.. maganda at matipid pa.. layo pa ng mararating mo sa isang full tank lang.. try mo hanapin dyan sa car finder (may nakita ako picanto 230,000 downpayment + 6,588 monthly for 23 months).. or kung gusto mo kia pride, matipid pa at madali ang piyesa.. yung opel tigra, maganda nga pero hirap maghanap ng spareparts at kung meron man, mahal naman..

[glntVR]

Hindi po ata super hirap mga parts nito dahil may Nissan Verita naman na available dito which is based on the Micra. I think you can use parts ng Nissan Verita diyan. If you have budget nga baka kaya gawin to look like the Verita! hehehe.

What ba engine nung Micra? Kung yun 1.3 na DOHC lalong walang problema yan. Mga brakes and suspension meron naman siguro din avail parts.

[Syuryuken]

Hindi po ata super hirap mga parts nito dahil may Nissan Verita naman na available dito which is based on the Micra. I think you can use parts ng Nissan Verita diyan. If you have budget nga baka kaya gawin to look like the Verita! hehehe.

What ba engine nung Micra? Kung yun 1.3 na DOHC lalong walang problema yan. Mga brakes and suspension meron naman siguro din avail parts.

Bro mas maganda na yung siguradong meron baka madis-appoint lang pag nagsimula ng magkaroon ng sira.

[glntVR]

hehe o nga. Just saying lang naman what I think. Kaya to Sir jimbaud, better to just buy a Kia Pride or save a bit more for downpayment on a new car.

[jimbaud]

1.3 DOHC nga ang engine, glntvr.

naisip ko rin pong (slowly) ipamodify yung Maverick para magmukang Veritas, kaso six months warranty lang...nakakakaba! May bagong reconditioned Toyota Starlet pala sa Norkis showroom!

minamata ko rin yung Chevy Spark (Daewoo Matiz na rebadged as Spark), andami na kasing nakaPicanto e hehe (which is a good sign diba?)

nagandahan ako sa Opel, pero sangayon ako na malamang mahal and/or hassle ang piyesa... any previous/current Tigra owners? share naman po kayo ng kwento niyo!

[squatt3r]

post nyo naman ung pic nung micra na yan

[OTEP]

The reconditioned Micra was indeed the basis for the Verita (Nissan just swapped out the front and rear fascia and trimmed it differently).

However, what Norkis fails to mention is that the units are not only reconditoined, they are also converted (RHD to LHD). I don't have anything against converted vehicles. But if you want a day-in, day-out commuter car, I would not recommend them.

The Chevy Spark M/T (no A/T available) at Php490k is too expensive for such a little car. About the only thing going for it is the 3-pt seatbelts for ALL seats (including center rear) and the rear foglamp. For something sold as a 2007 model, it's kind of odd that the Spark's audio system only accomodates casettes. For a little more (Php520k), you could already be driving a Kia Picanto A/T. Complete with alarm, central locking, front power windows, MP3 player, etc. The Kia also enjoys third-party (non-casa) support so parts and services are abundant. The Picanto M/T comes in at around Php475k with the same features as the A/T. There is a 'bare' version of the Picanto M/Tavailable for those on a really tight budget.

If you are really on a tight tight budget, a Kia Pride is hard to beat. The GTX model was available with A/T, power features, alloy wheels, etc. They are easy to fix and cheap to run. The modern interpretation of the VW Beetle if I ever saw one.

[kmo]

get the opel tigra ... seriously with all the gm and opel problems ... ito alng yung opel na wala akong naring na reklamo .. so far a ... kmabga nadamay lang siya sa kabulukan ng vectra omega ... plus you can get parts at thunder which is really cheap ! so no problem tsaka opel marami naman shops ngaoyn nakakagawa nyan e khit norma na talyer kaya na nila yan

well its better than the reconditoned micra

[niky]

RE: 1.3 Micra engine:

Yes, it's used in the Verita, but that doesn't mean parts will be widely available... just that you can find them if you look hard enough... iba pa rin ito sa 1.3 na Sentra engine (looked at the Verita before).

Chevy Spark

Gospel ang sabi ni Boss OTEP (as always... hehehe), it's just too small for the price. I was willing to be forgiving, but when I went to look at the Chevy display, I saw last decade's plastics, rock hard seat cushions with no thigh support, and a car so small you could probably shove it into the Jazz (seats folded flat config) and still close the trunk. The Picanto is still a better buy... or the Getz (which is bigger).

Norkis

Given that they're only reconditioned and not rebuilt with brand new parts... it's hard to see how you could recommend these things over a rebuilt local motor vehicle. Hell, spend that much on a Pride and it'll be a killer showcar! Also as a minus for Norkis cars as dealer-sold vehicles go is the pathetic warranty period, owner-type level of finish in terms of paint and upholstery, and the general "cheap" feeling.

[OTEP]

My friend has a Tigra. It was sold in relatively small numbers. According to him, dealer service is expensive. Though parts sold through Thunder seem to be reasonable enough when I inquired, only catch is they are on a per-order basis. Only consumables are stocked. AFAIK, his unit was a '98 model. Had problems with the starter and alternator. He also could not get a replacement alloy wheel at a decent price (nasira yung wheel after a crash). He's only keeping it because no one will buy it at a decent price. He drives a beat up EG hatch on most days.

But a Tigra is still better than that Maverick. At least for me. However, I find neither of them practical nor cost-effective.

[space invader]

^tama ang sabi nila

OT: magkano ba yung local na nissan verita? hndi yung galing norkis ha.. nagagandahan kse ako sa porma nito.. simply classic

[carlocaraddict]

Opel Tigra?? di ba sports coupe yun? Baka Opel Corsa

[OTEP]

The Tigra is a ***y coupe with modest performance (nothing approaching sportscar level).

The Corsa was not released locally, AFAIK.

[toyboxph]

corsa was not available here, so it must be the tigra. but stay out of the tigra. i read in UK Top Gear magazine several years ago: the worst car in UK in terms of customer satisfaction. daming reliability problems.
hhmmmm, re-badged micra... i saw that on the streets minsan. norkis pala may re-condition nito. matignan nga closely. looks interesting.
pero as they say, kia pride may be a better bet.
nagtataka lang ako sa mga posters pag may nagtatanong for budget cars, marami lagi nag rerecommend ng brand new picanto or getz. medyo kapos nga sa budget eh, kaya nga 2nd hand ang hinahanap. the money to be saved in buying a 2nd hand may be used in some other things. siguro lang maraming tsikoteers na well-off. meron ding tsikoteers na may limited budget, hope you understand. hard earned money ang papambili ng budget cars. so keep your suggestions coming!

[OTEP]

Baka po dahil may mga attractive financing options at maraming incentives ang Kia and Hyundai during most parts of the year.

Yung kuya ni commander bibili din dapat ng W123 Mercedes ('81 model ata) for Php135k. Kaya lang medyo nagkaron ng konting aberya. Ended up instead with a Kia Picanto na brand new. Php125k cash out and medyo long term ang financing. Medyo talo siya sa interes dahil sa haba ng term pero ok na din sa kanya kasi first time lang magka-brand new. hehehe.

[carlocaraddict]

yeh, the corsa was not released here but I think the Maverick is not a sports coupe, but it is a hatch that is based on the Corsa.