Brand new car for 800k

[renzo_d10]

The Focus has superb features. Let the SA demonstrate ALL OF THEM. Seriously, you'll be wowed.

However, the focus seems to lack legroom for back passengers, maybe because of it's very LARGE trunk that's why the rear legroom is somewhat, cramped. I dunno about it's fuel consumption though but I`m pretty sure that it gets no greater that 10km/l on city driving. Maybe, if not as worse as, pretty lower or nearer as what the MZ3 gives.

The Civic on the other hand, gives pretty good fuel consumption and, it has superb power. I`ve topped up at 11km/l on a mixed driving and 8km/l on city. Haven't tested on pure highway though and btw, it's an M/T FD.

The thing about the FD is it's hard seats, it's tolerable though and it can be remedied as well.

Between the 4 -, ZZ, FD, Focus and the Cruze i`d still go with the FD even though it's expensive ... you can't go wrong with Honda, after all it's reliability is still top-notch and it's still evident up to now, with all the recalls that's happening it's better to be safe than sorry.

You just need extreme patience with Honda SA's though. MOST of them aren't as friendly as Toyota SA's. ;)

[aejhayl17]

*aejhayl17: yung leathered na vios G ba yung sa inyo?


with the altis, it's that sludging

yes sir, we have the leathered vios G, di kase available that time yung regular seats sa G variant.

regarding the altis, you're right, you can prevent or "lengthen" your engine's life by strictly following the PM schedules. however, my 6 yr old altis (have the same 1.6 engine with the 10th gen), starts to be somehow "slow", "rough" and "sluggish". i dont know the cause but hopefully, its an e10 sin, not the sludge problem.

[scharnhorst]

*renzo: oo nga, medyo suplado yung sa honda. haha. out of budget nga lang kasi yung FD, even the 1.8 M/T.

the focus has alot of features... but the cruze trumps it in that aspect (in fact, I think it trumps all its competitors with the number and type of features)

*aejhayl17: to avoid the sludging, the ZZ needs to have an oil change every 5,000 km. kind of a drag since everything else has it every 10,000.

by the way, regarding E10 (sanay kami sa diesel..) 1)the FC will be poorer, 2) there will be less power, and 3) ethanol is hygroscopic, and it would be detrimental if not used often... tama ba?

[Gerbo]

Why not get a pre-owned Carens? There are some banks that will finance second hand cars, i.e. Maybank, etc.

[scharnhorst]

Why not get a pre-owned Carens? There are some banks that will finance second hand cars, i.e. Maybank, etc.

Tried to suggest getting a secondhand. But the saved money can't replace the peace of mind na hindi flooded yung unit... And we might as well have the warranty since my folks aren't the types who would venture out of the casa for servicing

[cjv_justice]

* scharnhorst - ano na balita sa mga pinagpipilian niyo?

[niky]

RE: Focus camber: (sorry for the late reply): That's built in. The camber is non-adjustable unless you buy specialized end-links (or bolts, or something). I don't recall whether Speedlab carries them. I know for sure Tuason Racing has them, and they sell them, but I don't know through what outlet.

RE: Honda seats... I've finally ridden in a Civic FD 1.8 that didn't feel extremely uncomfortable to sit in. The trick? 52,000 kilometers on the odometer, and the hard lumbar support had worn away... :lol: I think it's possible to just use seat-covers to achieve the same effect, or have a shop shave down the foam insert.

RE: Honda Fuel economy... partially the engine, partially the car. For a modern compact car (and the Civic is one of the biggest compacts in terms of interior space), the Civic is incredibly light... the base 1.8 MT is around 1200 kgs... some 100-200 kilograms less than the competition. The only (modern) car lighter is the Corolla 1.6... and that doesn't have nearly as much rear seat space.

The economy we got: 18... wasn't ideal. Under ideal highway conditions, 20 might actually be possible. We calculated that number via GPS on a recent eco-run, so it's fairly accurate.

[scharnhorst]

Thanks for the inputs!

after re-visiting the dealers and some test drives we decided last tuesday that we're getting the "LOL car"

an A/T sedan in red

-it's the newer design compared to the facelifted focus, altis and vios
-engine's bigger than that of the city (with a better torque curve), and an expected better fuel economy than that of the compacts listed due to its 1000 or so kilo kerb weight
-trunk doesn't have that "notching" (due to the tail lights) found on the city and the vios
-my mom finally said that she prefers an A/T, and the smiley face over robocop
-Discount and freebies for the focus trend A/T would only come with in-house financing
-No discount at all from chevy (and as previously said, the L would arrive late april)

*niky: if only the trend M/T interior was black like it's hatch cousins... the black/beige interior did feel cheap, especially the material used for the center console. The rear foldable armrest also makes it quite uncomfortable for a third passenger at the backseat. But it was fun to drive (the trend A/T) - never felt underpowered - and quite comfortable over surfaces that would break our backs in the ranger (unfortunately for it, so was the mazda 2).

will post pics when we get the unit

[scharnhorst]

released yesterday... mukhang daga. hahaha

[renzo_d10]

Congrats doc scharn ! :clap:

Mukha nga siyang daga pero cute. Bihira sa kalye yan kaya head-turner pa yan, pula pa.

Liit ng gulong, palitan na yan. :rofl:

[Horsepower]

Looks cute. hehe

[aejhayl17]

wow! ganda! pa test drive naman sir!

[a9828]

nice ride, congrats!


moving on with the topic, the new vios is now out. ang dami biglang practical A/T sedans below 800k. which would be the best among these:

toyota vios 1.3 e - 720k
nissan sentra 1.3 gx - 660k
nissan sentra 1.3 gxs - 680k
honda city 1.3 s - 766k
mazda 2 r 1.5 - 785k
kia rio EX 5dr 1.5 - 745k
haima family 1.6 sdx - 765k
mitsubishi lancer 1.6 gls - 745k

personally, mukhang best option pa rin sentra gxs, bang for buck. pms costs will always be there so i'm thinking to just minimize the initial expense. lahat naman yan will get you from a to b in one way or another.

what do you guys think?

[dale323]

nice ride, congrats!


moving on with the topic, the new vios is now out. ang dami biglang practical A/T sedans below 800k. which would be the best among these:

toyota vios 1.3 e - 720k
nissan sentra 1.3 gx - 660k
nissan sentra 1.3 gxs - 680k
honda city 1.3 s - 766k
mazda 2 r 1.5 - 785k
kia rio EX 5dr 1.5 - 745k
haima family 1.6 sdx - 765k
mitsubishi lancer 1.6 gls - 745k

personally, mukhang best option pa rin sentra gxs, bang for buck. pms costs will always be there so i'm thinking to just minimize the initial expense. lahat naman yan will get you from a to b in one way or another.

what do you guys think?

Yung sa sentra 1.3 a/t, ok naman. mas malaki siya sa iba but with same 1.3 displacement. The problem with this is their FC. para ka na rin nag1.6 engine. Might as well jump to haima family or much better the lancer gls. Yung 745k na yan bababa pa yan. Currently may discount sila (as much as 50k). so papatak na less than 700 na din. Just check the brochure of all cars indicated and you'll see na pinaka "bang for the buck" ang lancer.

[foresterx]

released yesterday... mukhang daga. hahaha

ganda naman sir, kulang na lang buntot para mukha na talagang daga. anyway dati gustong gusto ko sa mga small cars here in the philippines is the swift pero ngayon mazda2 na.

[scharnhorst]

*renzo: thanks! they look just right in the metal. hehe. (I think it's the b*tt that's oversized than the wheels being undersized)

but I'd like to have 205's please

*Horsepower: cute really is the word mukhang daga from the front, mukhang RC car from above

*aejhayl17: the yaris out-accelerated the hatch... yung vios rin kaya? hehe. maybe red ones go faster

*a9828: thanks dude. btw, you forgot the aveo. hehe. the chevy SA was pushing it to us when we were looking for a sub 800k car. good luck with your search, sir

*foresterx: yung previous gen honda city mukhang pc mouse... eto mukhang mouse as in yung mahilig sa cheese :rofl:

[aejhayl17]

*aejhayl17: the yaris out-accelerated the hatch... yung vios rin kaya? hehe. maybe red ones go faster

try? hahaha

[daimengrui]

Congrats on your LOL car

[scharnhorst]

*aejhayl17: still running it in eh. hahahaha

Congrats on your LOL car

thanks! the front is a LOL car

I just noticed this earlier:




mazda designers had too much time on their hands

[renzo_d10]

Ang layo ng range ng imagination nung mga designers ng Mazda. :clap: