Bnew i10 or 2nd hand Jazz 2005-2006 model?

[darkaeon]

A new i10 cost around 478K while a 2nd hand (pimped) Jazz 2005 to 2006 model cost around 450-500k...
Help me decide mga sir...
Newbie po ako sa kotse and need ko po ng inputs nyo about this...

Any help would be much appreciated... Thanks!

[ghosthunter]

Are the cars manual or automatic?

[tidus1203]

I will get the i10. Good for the seller but as a buyer the 1st gen Jazz has too high a resale value and lacks value for money since its already 4-5 years yet only P200K was shaven off the brand new price.

[ghosthunter]

In my opinion, assuming no defects/problems with the Jazz (including the known CVT tranny issue), the Jazz is still a good buy when compared to the Hyundai i10.

Interior flexibility is about the same in both cars. The only issue would be the engine and tranny.

The i10 only have a 1.1L and 1.2L petrol engine options as compared to the 1.3L and 1.5L engine options for the Honda Jazz.

Note: the price given by the TS for the i10 is the base model i10 1.1L M/T (no airbag).

The issue with the i10 M/T tranny is the rubbery feel of the shifter. The Honda 1.3L M/T shifter is more precise in feel.

[1D4LV]

A new i10 cost around 478K while a 2nd hand (pimped) Jazz 2005 to 2006 model cost around 450-500k...
Help me decide mga sir...
Newbie po ako sa kotse and need ko po ng inputs nyo about this...

Any help would be much appreciated... Thanks!

considering the jazz is still in good condition, i would go for it for the sole reason that it is bigger inside.

[Type 100]

Check the Jazz for rust spots first - it'll likely sprout in the doors and door sills. The rust can get there even if the owner was very careful. Blame Honda's ridiculously thin paint for that. Small rust spots (i.e. the size of a nail's head) are okay, but I've also seen Jazzes with larger areas of corrosion.

Just telling you what you should look out for.

The i10 ain't bad if you have no issues with its size.

[niky]

If it's a manual transmission Jazz 1.5 and there are no corrosion issues or others (like "kalampag") that you'll need to address... go for it. Slightly wider than the i10, much bigger rear seat, much more practical, lots of fun to drive.

A 1.3 MT, if the price is good, still go.

If it's a CVT, test-drive it and check the condition/mileage of the transmission. It helps if it has documentation proving they've done the recall work regarding the transmission fluid. We've already passed up on one secondhand Honda CVT due to transmission slippage.

Still, I wouldn't get a CVT secondhand over a brand new i10 with warranty unless it had 30k kms on it or less. Well... even then... having a warranty goes a long way to assuring problem free ownership. And the i10 is a good car, very solid feeling interior, good suspension for a minicar, good handling and a peppy engine.

And it looks good, too.

[tsupermario]

I will get the i10. Good for the seller but as a buyer the 1st gen Jazz has too high a resale value and lacks value for money since its already 4-5 years yet only P200K was shaven off the brand new price.

maybe the mods have something to do with the price. pimped out daw eh :D

there's too few details on the jazz

[darkaeon]

Woah! I was overwhelmed with your answers mga boss.
Thank you sa mga nag-bigay ng inputs nila...
I want the MT i10 or Jazz... I never wanted the automatic coz i've heard na mahal ang maintenance ng AT pag napabayaan...

My first choice was the Hyundai i10 but after reading several reviews about it... it some some safety issues like the brakes are not that good and the entry level model doesn't have airbags.
I checked the 2005-2006 Jazz and they have dual airbags and some of them comes with disc brakes and i believe they are more fuel efficient than the i10's... please correct me if im wrong...

How about a manual Toyota Yaris 2007 model... someone selling it for about P489k... is that car better than Jazz or i10? Sorry kung may nadagdag... First time ko po kasi magkkotse eh and ayoko mag-sisi sa huli...

Thanks!

-DarkAeon

[darkaeon]

considering the jazz is still in good condition, i would go for it for the sole reason that it is bigger inside.

If it's a manual transmission Jazz 1.5 and there are no corrosion issues or others (like "kalampag") that you'll need to address... go for it. Slightly wider than the i10, much bigger rear seat, much more practical, lots of fun to drive.

A 1.3 MT, if the price is good, still go.

If it's a CVT, test-drive it and check the condition/mileage of the transmission. It helps if it has documentation proving they've done the recall work regarding the transmission fluid. We've already passed up on one secondhand Honda CVT due to transmission slippage.

Still, I wouldn't get a CVT secondhand over a brand new i10 with warranty unless it had 30k kms on it or less. Well... even then... having a warranty goes a long way to assuring problem free ownership. And the i10 is a good car, very solid feeling interior, good suspension for a minicar, good handling and a peppy engine.

And it looks good, too.

Yup! that is one of my reasons as well why my heart is broken in two with those two cars...
I like the Jazz because it is slightly bigger and has more space at the back...
The i10 is cute and of course brandnew, Haayyy...

Sir Niky, how about a Jazz with 30k+ or 40k milleage, is that not good to buy?
My other issue with the i10 is its tall behind.
Its like if I steer in a tight curve eh tataob sya...

[darkaeon]

Check the Jazz for rust spots first - it'll likely sprout in the doors and door sills. The rust can get there even if the owner was very careful. Blame Honda's ridiculously thin paint for that. Small rust spots (i.e. the size of a nail's head) are okay, but I've also seen Jazzes with larger areas of corrosion.

Just telling you what you should look out for.

The i10 ain't bad if you have no issues with its size.

Thank you for your input sir!
So i should check for rust spots if ever I'm going to get a 2nd hand Jazz...
Hmm... so ang Jazz is prone to rust than i10's, is that what you mean boss?

May i know what are the major differences between the Jazz 2004, 2005 and 2006 models?
I like Honda since I own a Honda CBR150 for 2 years and sold it and settled for a Honda CBR 400rr and take note that it is a 20year old bike (the 400rr) and it still performs very well. Honda bigbikes are known to have bullet-proof engines but I'm not sure with Honda cars though...

[p_borj]

Sir kung hindi mo problem ang space and resale value (kadalasan kasi ito kaagad ang naiisip ng mga buyers when in fact bibili pa nga lang naiisip na ang future na pagbenta hehe). for me kasi what matters most is yung magagamit mo siya ng mabuti at maayos and of course, you like what you have chosen.

I recommend getting a brand new Hyundai i10 rather than a 30-40k km odo reading Jazz na hindi mo alam kung paano ginamit etc. iba pa rin sir ang brand new. kaya lang, mababa ang resale value ng Hyundai i10 compared sa Honda Jazz (obviously). If mas mahalaga sa iyo ang resale value and space, mag Jazz ka na. If mas mahalaga sa iyo ang peace of mind go for the brand new i10.

[ghosthunter]

My other issue with the i10 is its tall behind.
Its like if I steer in a tight curve eh tataob sya...

It might be tall at the back end but the center-of-gravity (COG) of the car is still low. This is because nearly all of the heavy stuff like suspension, transmission, chassis are located low in the car.

So unless you have a whole cow strapped to your roof, the i10 will be hard to tip over in a tight curve.

[Type 100]

Thank you for your input sir!
So i should check for rust spots if ever I'm going to get a 2nd hand Jazz...
Hmm... so ang Jazz is prone to rust than i10's, is that what you mean boss?

May i know what are the major differences between the Jazz 2004, 2005 and 2006 models?
I like Honda since I own a Honda CBR150 for 2 years and sold it and settled for a Honda CBR 400rr and take note that it is a 20year old bike (the 400rr) and it still performs very well. Honda bigbikes are known to have bullet-proof engines but I'm not sure with Honda cars though...

I'm not saying the i10 is more rust-resistant - only time will tell. I'm simply sharing my experience as I drive a 2005 Jazz 1.3L. Rust is a bugbear of these cars because, like I said, Honda's paint is just too thin.

Major differences aren't huge between the original 2004-05 and facelifted/"MMC" 2006-07 GD Jazzes. The main differences are just cosmetic:
- new front and rear bumpers unique to the 1.3L and 1.5L versions (pre-MMC bumpers are the same regardless of engine)
- LED taillights (pre-MMC versions use bulbs)
- body-colored headlight interior (pre-MMC headlight interiors are all silver)
- different patterns for interior upholstery

You can thank the introduction of VTEC in 1989 for Honda making a reputation as a bullet-proof engine builder. Even my i-DSI engine has already seen lots of trackday action and it hasn't complained one bit. It can scream at 6000 RPM cornering at Subic International Raceway in the morning, and go cruising down SCTEX/NLEX going home at night the same day.

And even with running at the racetrack, I can still make 12-14 km/L with no problem. You can actually fill up the tank the previous night, go to Subic, run at the racetrack, then go back to Manila without having to fill up for gas.

[Type 100]

My other issue with the i10 is its tall behind.
Its like if I steer in a tight curve eh tataob sya...

Err, the Jazz is just as tall, and I've tackled the turn 5 hairpin in Subic International Raceway lots of times. Never felt like it was in danger of tipping over.

The i10 is, dynamically, a very similar beast - the basic suspension layout (struts at the front, torsion beam at the rear) is the same. Also the Jazz and i10, despite their tall bodies, actually have low ride heights so they "hug" the road - as well as a four-square, squat stance due to the sufficient wheelbase length.

You should be more afraid of tipping over in an SUV, IMHO. The taller a vehicle's SUSPENSION is, the harder it is to control its body movements.

[niky]

Yup! that is one of my reasons as well why my heart is broken in two with those two cars...
I like the Jazz because it is slightly bigger and has more space at the back...
The i10 is cute and of course brandnew, Haayyy...

Sir Niky, how about a Jazz with 30k+ or 40k milleage, is that not good to buy?
My other issue with the i10 is its tall behind.
Its like if I steer in a tight curve eh tataob sya...

30-40k with a CVT is okay, as long as it hasn't been abused or driven too hard. Even higher mileages are still okay, but it's hard to tell whether the CVT is slipping yet unless you bring along a CVT owner or someone familiar with the model on your test drive to assess the condition of the car.

The one offered to my friend was obviously slipping and had quite a bit of shift shock... but it was used in city traffic, had well over 120k kms on it, and seemed poorly maintained. Records of regular CVTF changes are a must if you're buying one secondhand.

[redorange]

As a first time car owner you should buy the i10 as opposed to the used Jazz with it's unknown maintenance history unless you are mechanically inclined. As for resale value the Honda still has a higher selling price because the original purchase price is also higher than what a i10 cost, just look at the current models and the price difference. Also even if the car is pimped or modded that should not have anything to do with the selling price because those things should not add value to the car as the items depreciate also with use. But if you elect to buy a used car get one that isn't pimped so you can see it for what it is and not with a bunch of crap attached to it to cover defects.

[p_borj]

there are two types of car buyers kasi.

yung isa "seller" after lumain yung kotse ibebenta na para bumili ulit ng bago (ganito ang karamihan pero tama rin kasi practicallity ito, lumalabas na ang sakit ng sasakyan siyempre kapag naluluma na)

yung isa "keeper" wherein hindi tumitingin sa resale value ng sasakyan dahil itatago nila ito so they maintain it very well. (ganito ako kasi so more on brand new ako palagi no matter the resale value is, mas mahalaga yung babagay sa lifestyle mo)


So sir TS, ano po ba kayo sa dalawa hehe? kung "seller" type kayo and of course, mas kailangan niyo ng bigger space and engine power mag-Jazz na kayo. kapag "keeper" type, go for the brand new Hyundai i10, less features pero bago naman talaga. alam mo yung amoy na yun ng bago? hehe

[lui]

sa jazz kasi mas magandang oto pero d sigurado sa kundisyon. sa i10 sigurado. d nga lang ganung ka loaded. fc nila tingin ko same lang. test drive namen sa i10 from pioneer to san fernando balikan naka 18.5kms per li ung i10 1.1 gls mt

[darkaeon]

30-40k with a CVT is okay, as long as it hasn't been abused or driven too hard. Even higher mileages are still okay, but it's hard to tell whether the CVT is slipping yet unless you bring along a CVT owner or someone familiar with the model on your test drive to assess the condition of the car.

The one offered to my friend was obviously slipping and had quite a bit of shift shock... but it was used in city traffic, had well over 120k kms on it, and seemed poorly maintained. Records of regular CVTF changes are a must if you're buying one secondhand.

What does CVT means sir? Are you referring to Automatic or Manual?
How would you know if the CVT is slipping?
Could you please enlighten me sir niky...
Thanks!