Better Passenger Van? Nissan Urvan Or Toyota Hi-ace Commuter or others?

[kevin3000]

i saw one ung urvan estate ganda pagtingin ko sa plaka B pero ok lang ambulance siya pero pogi

[GTi]

Mas maganda nga yung imported Urvan kesa sa local eh. It has turbo intercooler on the 3.0 engine and dual sliding doors already. The older ones have the 2.7L engine also with turbo intercooler and 4WD! Why don't we ever get these cool stuff?!

[Starex_Gold]

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[AKI125]

The only solution to this problem is a cleaner diesel fuel. I wonder what happened to our clean air act law? Parang napako na sa 1st stage lang which was removal of harmful lead content in our fuel.

Lugi tayo sa thailand kasi our diesel is as same pricing sa atin pero they are getting cleaner fuels compared to ours

[kevin3000]

Q: kanina pauwi ako sa nlex may kasabay akong urvan parang bluish yung smoke niya? bago pa e P pa plate
and yung strada namin hindi nagamit ng 2 araw.. after ko iistart walang warm up warm up ayun medyo maitim usok sa umpisa nagtry ako na ihinto tapos irev nawala yung usok sa umpisa lang mausok kahit yung 4d56 namin na montero sa umpisa lang.. yung navarra na nakasabay ko bnew pa mausok din.. and starex na crdi may nakita ako na umuusok.. sa diesel yata normal yung uusok pag pinipiga mo..

[KIANTOT]

Kung sa passenger van sa ngayon lalo na sa manila mas marami na ang urvan, karamihan lalo na pag pangbiyahe iwas na sila sa CRDI engine, true nga hindi talaga mausok ang urvan, kahit anu pa ang piga mo sa accelarator, pero bilib ako sa preno ng hiace malakas talaga compare sa urvan

[OTEP]

The truck version of the isuzu nhr which uses the same tranny and diff ratios as the ivan is kind of a lame duck on the road. Sure, it can move under its own power especially in city driving but the engine is so taxed in the open road. Afaik, the only difference with the ivan is the 80 amp alternator vs 50 for the regular truck without ac and the fuel tank of the ivan relocated behind the driver.

But yes, i'd really like to have a crack at the ivan. Its the newest ambulance in the aeromed fleet.

[KIANTOT]

Much better sana kung maitest drive with seating capacity and to see if very good or not,.. I think if it is a break drum in front then it is using "ibeam" suspension, it is heavy duty, It depends also which break booster or the size of hydrovac is installed even it is a break drum in front same as jeepney, yung jeepney ko dati even break drums lahat malakas pa sa kotse ang preno dahil sa break booster na naka install, downside lang eh you need to adjust the break manually kung breakdrums nga lahat...yung sa hiace 2.4 pero ang displacement eh 2446cc, almost 2.5 na din

[zap.FREEDOM]

Much better sana kung maitest drive with seating capacity and to see if very good or not,.. I think if it is a break drum in front then it is using "ibeam" suspension, it is heavy duty, It depends also which break booster or the size of hydrovac is installed even it is a break drum in front same as jeepney, yung jeepney ko dati even break drums lahat malakas pa sa kotse ang preno dahil sa break booster na naka install, downside lang eh you need to adjust the break manually kung breakdrums nga lahat...yung sa hiace 2.4 pero ang displacement eh 2446cc, almost 2.5 na din

another is, ang concern ko kasi sa mga drum brakes e mabilis ang wear & tear kesa sa disc brakes, as what i experienced laging paliting ng rubber cap dun sa mga brake pistons, yun sa mga jeep kasi yan ang laging maintenance sa brake system, lalo na naman to i-van kung laging gagamitin sa mga commercial purposes, biyahe dito, biyahe doon...eto sure siguro ang laging magkakatama IMO.

[GTi]

The i-Van is basically a glorified jeepney. Diba maraming mga jeepney gumagamit lang ng recycled Elf chassis and engine? Some of them are even from Isuzu's powertrain program so talagang galing NHR ang ilalim, transmission and engine (which is also the 4JB1). Kung tutuusin pwede na ang i-Van pero since Isuzu is marketing it as a passenger van/mini-bus. They could've done more with it and boy do I have a long list of improvements for them. Wish also that they'll make it more flexible with more powertrain and body choices. Most importantly, add sliding doors and throw in the 4HF1-T engine!

*KIANTOT: What I-Beam suspension? Di ba leaf spring harap at likod din yan a la jeepney?