Pros & Cons: Kia Rio 1.4 EX A/T vs Hyundai Accent GL 1.4 A/T vs Toyota Vios 1.3E A/T

[valacirca]

Guys, ano ang masasabi niyong pros and cons between these three cars?

Considering they all fit my need and are all in my price range, ano yung factors that would make you consider one over the other?

[dct]

power will be on accent. features will be both on rio and accent. but maintenance and fuel consumption will be on vios

[jut703]

power will be on accent. features will be both on rio and accent. but maintenance and fuel consumption will be on vios

Paano mo nasabi that the Accent has the power advantage over the Rio when they have the same engine and weigh roughly the same as each other?

Anyway, to the TS, the main reason NOT to get the Rio/Accent is the potential knocking issue of its 1.4L Gamma engine. Interestingly, perhaps the main reason to get the Vios is because it's so freakin' reliable. In the 5 years that its been here, no major issues have popped up.

Other things to consider:

- The Rio/Accent have the most space in the subcompact segment. The Vios on the other hand, has one of the smallest bodies in its class.

- The Accent is over 3 years newer than the Vios, while the Rio is even newer, just launched early this year.

- The Vios 1.3L 2NZ-FE engine is extremely fuel efficient - a lot of people claim 11-12 km/L in city driving with this car in MT form. AT? Not so much. Around 10 km/L, roughly the same as a 1.5G Vios AT.

- The Accent/Rio, despite having 1.4L engines, are actually not that fuel efficient even when working perfectly. They consume roughly the same as most 1.5L subcompacts, somewhere around 9 km/L.

[dct]

my mistake. sorry sir

[weisshorn]

Knocking issue sa 1.4 accent?? luma na yata yan & problem solved na dahil kung hindi si sir Bratski ay mag post sigurado sa kabilang thread. Actually my brother 1.4L Accent acquired about end of March this year walang issue about this. Wala na rin ako nabalitaan na reklamo sa mga bagong 1.4L unit.

[lowslowbenz]

Toyota!

Just recently got back from Laiya. Drove the Vios of my wife, 1.3 AT. Average fuel consumption for the whole trip 18 kms/litre. Not bad!

Commands top resale value.

Toyota quality.

Parts are everywhere!

Need I say more?

[ax30g]

Will a 5 y/o Rio /Accent be as reliable as a 5 y/o vios?

[renzo_d10]

Vios!

Because I own one. And I can attest on how frugal it is to run.

It's one hell of a car. Very fuel efficient. Zippy. And easy to drive, too.

I'm also confident that if it breaks down wherever, a normal manong can repair it.

[valacirca]

Paano mo nasabi that the Accent has the power advantage over the Rio when they have the same engine and weigh roughly the same as each other?

Anyway, to the TS, the main reason NOT to get the Rio/Accent is the potential knocking issue of its 1.4L Gamma engine. Interestingly, perhaps the main reason to get the Vios is because it's so freakin' reliable. In the 5 years that its been here, no major issues have popped up.

Other things to consider:

- The Rio/Accent have the most space in the subcompact segment. The Vios on the other hand, has one of the smallest bodies in its class.

- The Accent is over 3 years newer than the Vios, while the Rio is even newer, just launched early this year.

- The Vios 1.3L 2NZ-FE engine is extremely fuel efficient - a lot of people claim 11-12 km/L in city driving with this car in MT form. AT? Not so much. Around 10 km/L, roughly the same as a 1.5G Vios AT.

- The Accent/Rio, despite having 1.4L engines, are actually not that fuel efficient even when working perfectly. They consume roughly the same as most 1.5L subcompacts, somewhere around 9 km/L.

Thanks jut! Among the three cars, I'm actually most attracted by the Accent and Rio. And more on the Accent than the Rio. The Accent seems to be the most spacious of them all; and in terms of design, pinakamaganda siya for me.

The only thing that's really making me reconsider the Accent is some reliability issues that seem to pop up. Kasama na nga dun yung issue about the engine knock.

But if not for that, it's more or less either the Accent or Rio for me.

[valacirca]

Knocking issue sa 1.4 accent?? luma na yata yan & problem solved na dahil kung hindi si sir Bratski ay mag post sigurado sa kabilang thread. Actually my brother 1.4L Accent acquired about end of March this year walang issue about this. Wala na rin ako nabalitaan na reklamo sa mga bagong 1.4L unit.

Ano nga po ba yung narating na resolution nitong engine knock issue?

I asked in the engine knock thread but haven't gotten any answers. Thanks.

[erj22]

other owners that has issues have replaced their ECUs and updated to Euro 2. or from stock firmware upgrade to Euro 2. no go for stock firmware to Euro 1 to Euro 2. some replaced their fuel. i use shell for my accent 1.4 mt, except for fuel save. no ECU upgrades done. (knock on wood!)

[jut703]

The knocking issue has been fixed by reprogramming the ECU to Euro-II standards, as opposed to the Euro-IV that the initial Accents came with.

Personally, I'll be more happy shelling out my P700,000 for a Rio or Accent. More on the Rio because of the better interior and suspension, though the front of the Accent is just so handsome when fitted with foglamps. How I wish the rims could be bigger though. At least the Rio EX has 15" rims, the 14s on the Accent are just too small. Ang hirap pa naman maghanap ng 16" rims na tulad nung sa 1.6 na Accent.

The Vios is really devoid of any sense of character, if you ask me. I'd get a Yaris if I wanted something reliable and cheap to run, or a Mazda 2 1.3S for something fun, fuel efficient and problem-free.

[valacirca]

The Vios is really devoid of any sense of character, if you ask me.

I agree with this, actually. It just looks bland and it doesn't help that it's the go-to taxi car here in the Philippines. Buuuuut... it does win hands down in terms of reliability and maintainability. So the practical choice would be a Vios.

Still...my gut is telling me to get either the Rio or the Accent.

I've also heard that the suspension on the Rio is really good. Or is it just that the ones on the Accent are sub-par?

I've tried sitting in both the Rio and Accent... hindi ba parang mas masikip ng konti ang Rio? The Accent wins for me hands down in terms of spaciousness both inside the car and trunk space.

[erj22]

rio is mas makitid compared to accent. yup, totoo, hirap makakita ng rims para sa accent, lalo yung ka-itsura ng sa blue variant nila. ok na ko sa stock (i'm using MT variant lambot lang rear suspension kaya alalay lang sa pag exit sa hump. di lang daw maganda yung stock radio ng accent.

[ax30g]

For fun = Rio or Accent
For keeps = Vios

[niky]

I've also heard that the suspension on the Rio is really good. Or is it just that the ones on the Accent are sub-par?

Accent suspension is too soft. Leads to bottoming out. Rio suspension, on the other hand, is as good as the Ford Fiesta's.

[michgenn_10]

Sana solve na talaga ang engine knocking at low power ng Accent lalo na sa 1.4 a/t, para kasing wala na akong naririnig sa mga owner ng accent na nagkaron ng ganitong problema lalo na dun sa isang ka-tsikot na si bratski. Balak ko din kasi kumuha at una sa listahan ko ang accent 2nd ang vios.

[lowslowbenz]

Will a 5 y/o Rio /Accent be as reliable as a 5 y/o vios?

I like this question! Bravo!

[GTi]

I see lots of new Accent's and Rio's now being used for cab service, even by big cab companies like MGE. IMHO this should be saying a lot about its reliability. And also that the friendly neighborhood repairman would be quite familiar with it as well.

Personally, I really prefer the Rio though. Mas "lalaki" tingnan, at kapag mabigat hindi ka sayad ng sayad.

[valacirca]

Hm, I think I want to turn this into a Rio vs Accent thread.

If it were only those two, what would be your pick?