Innova e mt d4d vs isuzu sportivo mt vs mitsubishi adventure super sports

[glenne08]

Good evening! I'm planning to buy a car for my family.. but i'm still thinking...

kung what is the best car dito sa pinagpipilian ko..

thanks! need advise.. its my first time to post here..

Godbless us all!

[Ry_Tower]

Good evening! I'm planning to buy a car for my family.. but i'm still thinking...

kung what is the best car dito sa pinagpipilian ko..

thanks! need advise.. its my first time to post here..

Godbless us all!

May thread na na ganito rin recently dito sa tsikot, Innova nanalo since better safety and overall performance.

[glenne08]

May thread na na ganito rin recently dito sa tsikot, Innova nanalo since better safety and overall performance.

Read more: http://tsikot.com/forums/car-compari...#ixzz1cw117hoF


OK thanks! Ry_tower

[number001]

There should have been a new facelift for the Innova. But given the floods in Thailand, this will be postponed temporarily.

Innova owner here. But if I had to do it again, I'd still go for Innova (over the choices you are choosing)

The adventure super sports we looked at, had inadequate hip and legroom for all passengers. For some reason, the vehicle's floor is raised quite high (like old ancient SUV like the HILUX SURF).

[hinDMaxsiado]

Good evening! I'm planning to buy a car for my family.. but i'm still thinking...

kung what is the best car dito sa pinagpipilian ko..

thanks! need advise.. its my first time to post here..

Godbless us all!

Sir, if you have time to read kindly just hang-a-bit with me here in describing them as partly an owner and a user of the said vehicles in question.... This is an edited or cut-out version from my previous post pertaining to the same comparos in another thread.

Sir Roelrpt,

We now own an Innova D-4D, which actually is my wife's new service car. We also have a Crosswind and Adventure since 2003. We got the Innova quite cheap and due to a good deal way back when Toyota was introducing its 2012 Hilux and Fortuner at the Tent in Taguig. It was a good deal that was hard to pass. We traded off the Adventure for the new Innova D-4D E model.

While all are 2.5-litre diesel engines, the Innova uses a CRDi engine while the Crosswind's engine is an old but highly reliable 1997 old diesel engine. The Adventure is also using an old-tech engine. The Innova has got more boost-pressure due to its newer turbocharger, while the Crosswind. Therefore, the Innova offers better power, acceleration than the two.

Just remember that any additional power that comes out from the Innova compared to the Crosswind or to the Adventure is largely all about added boost pressure ---- NOTHING MORE. Tanggalan mo ng turbochargers mga yan, pare-pareho lang silang mahihina, kahit CRDi pa ang Innova.... While the Innova is faster and more powerful than the two old-tech Isuzu and Mitsubishi, it's really NOTHING spectacular. In the same context, German-diesels are relatively powerful than the Japanese-diesels of the same engine-displacement because Germans are fond of utilising twin-turbos or dual-staged turbochargers against the Jap's single-turbocharger, where some are even using just wastegate-type turbocharger. Again, largely it's all about boosting....

Both the Innova, Crosswind, Adventure engines do NOT have intercoolers....

In terms of fuel-economy, all are good.

In terms of manoeuvring manners, all are also good ---- Puedeng mong ipagsingitan kahit saan, kahit pa sa traffic. You can change lanes outright at will with any of these vehicles; it's a point-and-shoot manoeuvring with any of them, precise steering.

In terms of frontal-and-peripheral visions as a driver, the Crosswind and the Adventure offers way way better frontal and peripheral visions for the driver in totality ---- The windshield side-panels of the Crosswind and Adventure are not too slopey like the Innova. Especially at night time, the Innova has quite significant blind-spots side-to-side when you're the one driving. It's even worse than the blind spots you get from a Strada/Monterosport.

In terms of durability and dependability, i still do not know as of yet since the Innova is just new (just a tad over the 1000 km break-in mark) ---- However, our old 2003 Crosswind has served us well for the last 320,000 km, and counting, without any engine troubles. It runs the way it has always ran since Day 1 of owning it. We traded-off the Adventure after 134,000 km odo.

Goodluck sir!

By the way sir, i was corrected by another gentleman forumer that the Adventure's engine is actually naturally-aspirited diesel engine, not turbocharged like the Crosswind ;)

If i may also add sir ---- Huwag naman Sportivo as it comes highly-priced, and in my opinion, it's overrated for the old 1997 engine that goes with it.... let alone that it's highly dependable though. Besides, compared to the other Crosswind variants, according to others, it gives a jolty ride (matagtag) since it has a taller stance than them. Mausok pa hehe....

Taka nga rin ako sir eh, mahal pa Sportivo kaysa sa 2004 CRDi engine-model Philippine-DMax 3.0 Ddi-iTEQ LS and LX 4x2 ....Ibang klase, only in the Phelippens hehe


GOD bless you as a family as well, and always sir....

[GTi]

The Sportivo is actually more expensive than the top of the line Innova which is leagues ahead in every aspect except the toys department. Very, very overpriced I should say. And it's a lot more sluggish than its lower variant brethren due to the efforts to make it look like an SUV. If you're set on getting a Crosswind, hanggang XTi variant lang.

If the Crosswind's engine is from the mid to late 90s, the Adventure's 4D56 hails from the 80s! And its in the exact same configuration as the one found in the L300! Better stay away then.

[andretti]

Our family currently owns an Innova diesel MT and a Sportivo MT.
Kung sa ride quality, mas gusto ko ang Innova dahil totoong matagtag ang Sportivo.
Sa FC naman halos pareho lang sila, lamang lang ng konti ang Sportivo.
Kung sa maintenance naman, tipid na tipid ang Sportivo, e halos ala nang maintenance yung sa amin after the third year pero hangga ngayon ayun no issues parin.

If it will be your daily drive, choose the Innova due to its lower stance and car-like features, but if you like to have a go anywhere, hassle free type of car, choose the Sportivo.

[imperialv]

No offense with Sportivo owners since i wala akong isuzu.. Feeling ko kasi if I will be spending 1M for a sportivo, feeling ko hindi worth it, kasi sobrang luma na ang design compared sa innova..... Just my opinion.

[SiRbossR]

By the way sir, i was corrected by another gentleman forumer that the Adventure's engine is actually naturally-aspirited diesel engine, not turbocharged like the Crosswind ;)


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Wow. I'm a Gentleman! haha

back to topic:

The Innova is better in all aspects. and is leagues better. among the three, though the two looks like SUV's, all of it cannot go off road. If i were you, i'd take the Innova. It's like a big honda jazz of AUV's. Very easy to drive and well, comfortable. The innova is quicker than the two but compared to other cars, it's not that fast pero for everyday drivin, it's GOOD.

[myk384]

Crosswind Sportivo - Expensive, slow, old tech
Adventure Super Sport - Luxurious, old tech pero refined, complicated spare tyre cover
Innova E - Medyo bare (ng konti) pero does the job done, Modern.

[hinDMaxsiado]

....Kung sa maintenance naman, tipid na tipid ang Sportivo, e halos ala nang maintenance yung sa amin after the third year pero hangga ngayon ayun no issues parin....

If it will be your daily drive, choose the Innova due to its lower stance and car-like features, but if you like to have a go anywhere, hassle free type of car, choose the Sportivo.

No doubt naman sir, highly dependable at durable naman talaga ang Crosswind.... Pang-harabas nga ang 2003 Crosswind XT ni misis.

Pero sana naman huwag naman plus PhP1.100 M for the Sportivo ---- yes, andoon na tayo sa tibay pero it's just too boring hehe.... Mataas na nga ang PhP0.750 M diyan haha

Wow. I'm a Gentleman! haha

Mismo! Ahoho

[andretti]

Tama Sir, masyado nang overpriced ang Sportivo sa presyong php1.1M...hehe ito nga din ang pang-harabas ni misis, dapat pala mag-mit misis natin sir!!!

Pero honestly before we bought the Sportivo ang nasa isip lang namin is tibay at wala ng iba,. I think that alone sells it to a lot of people, kaya sa tagal tagal na gamit mo ang sasakyan, sulit na sulit na... di nga namin nagamit warranty during its first 3 years dahil alang nasira...

If you plan to keep the car for more that 5 years and you don't mind the harsh ride then get the Isuzu due to lower overall maintenance cost, but if you want to enjoy your driving experience, a more relaxed ride and will dispose your car in lets say in less than 5 years then get the Innova...

[Ry_Tower]

Pero sana naman huwag naman plus PhP1.100 M for the Sportivo ---- yes, andoon na tayo sa tibay pero it's just too boring hehe.... Mataas na nga ang PhP0.750 M diyan haha

At that price, it would be the Innova killer for sure!

[imperialv]

Siguro naman sa durability, tatagal din ang innova...

Tama Sir, masyado nang overpriced ang Sportivo sa presyong php1.1M...hehe ito nga din ang pang-harabas ni misis, dapat pala mag-mit misis natin sir!!!

Pero honestly before we bought the Sportivo ang nasa isip lang namin is tibay at wala ng iba,. I think that alone sells it to a lot of people, kaya sa tagal tagal na gamit mo ang sasakyan, sulit na sulit na... di nga namin nagamit warranty during its first 3 years dahil alang nasira...

If you plan to keep the car for more that 5 years and you don't mind the harsh ride then get the Isuzu due to lower overall maintenance cost, but if you want to enjoy your driving experience, a more relaxed ride and will dispose your car in lets say in less than 5 years then get the Innova...

[renzo_d10]

Isuzu Sportivo:

-- The Sportivo is known to be durable & bullet-proof. Regards to its maintenance, worry not, it's dirt cheap. However, for the past 2875973057 years, safety-wise they have not improved. The seatbelts are your only best chance of survival. Design-wise, not has much been changed. Swapping headlights to headlights, bumpers to bumpers and grille to grille and call it a new model was Isuzu's trademark. IMO, though, the current design is actually a bit impressive. Not that I like old-fashioned vehicles but the looks justifies it's durability. Brusko, ika nga. However, overall the Sportivo DOESN'T justify it's hefty price tag attached to it. The 1M++ tag isn't just well fit to it. Probably when they swap the engine to a more modern one or yet, include some safety features.

Innova E M/T

-- Okay family vehicle. Comfortable. Bang-for-the-buck. What can I say? It's an Innova.

Adventure

-- Can't say much on this. But from the looks of it, it's pretty durable and looks more worth the buck than the expensive Sportivo.

[userfriendly]

Innova ka na lalo na kung ikaw ang driver. Sobrang kupad ng Crosswind.

[andretti]

Siguro naman sa durability, tatagal din ang innova...

Matibay naman ang Innova, but not as tough as Isuzu IMO.
An example of having to choose on which one is more durable whenever we go to the farm, for sure Sportivo ang gagamitin, rough road kasi, you would be fool to use the Innova.

buyer's preference nalang

[zap.FREEDOM]

our friend recently got a Sportivo and I got a chance to hitch on it, well, same ride feeling just like our Revo's riding comfort can give, btw, I love the JVC EXAD KD-AVX77, the projector headlight, signal lamps on the sidemirror (LED), chrome grille finish and the beige interior of the sportivo. but hindi talaga ideal para presyuhan ng 1.1 million, nanghihinayang ako sa kaibigan kong iyon, sana tucson na lang kinuha niya.

--Innova here, fuel-efficiency, riding comfort and safety feautres is worth it.

[AKI125]

Heres my choice accordingly

Innova
Adventure
Sportivo

[Ry_Tower]

our friend recently got a Sportivo and I got a chance to hitch on it, well, same ride feeling just like our Revo's riding comfort can give, btw, I love the JVC EXAD KD-AVX77, the projector headlight, signal lamps on the sidemirror (LED), chrome grille finish and the beige interior of the sportivo. but hindi talaga ideal para presyuhan ng 1.1 million, nanghihinayang ako sa kaibigan kong iyon, sana tucson na lang kinuha niya.

--Innova here, fuel-efficiency, riding comfort and safety feautres is worth it.

Add 100K and you have a nice Strada 4x4 already!