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    Hello guys, I am here to seek help for my lady friend who is planning to buy a subcompact cars na nasa price ceiling at 500k (and after discounts.) Pwede naman siguro umabot ng up to 600k if there is none available. Her company might shoulder the car purchase partly.

    I said to her na A/T na ang kunin para madali yung pagda-drive niya from home to office (Manila to BGC). Pero OK din sa kanya sa M/T since sa manual siya natuto sa driving school.

    heto ang reco ko sa kanya:

    Mirage GLX
    Wigo G or E
    New Celerio (may discount na ba sila kapag bago?)
    anything else?

    But, sabi din niya sa akin na inirereconsider din niya bumili ng second hand. Tapos after one year, ibebenta na niya to buy a new one. OK lang ba kumuha ng second hand cars sa bank? (yung mga repossessed ones)

    Thanks!

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    Mirage GLX na lang. It's small, practical, CVT.

    Don't get the Celery (unless you hate your friend). Di yan makapasa abroad sa crash test kasi nag-c-collapse yung brake pedal during a crash. LOL.

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    Mirage GLX na lang. It's small, practical, CVT.

    Don't get the Celery (unless you hate your friend). Di yan makapasa abroad sa crash test kasi nag-c-collapse yung brake pedal during a crash. LOL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by myas110 View Post
    Hello guys, I am here to seek help for my lady friend who is planning to buy a subcompact cars na nasa price ceiling at 500k (and after discounts.) Pwede naman siguro umabot ng up to 600k if there is none available. Her company might shoulder the car purchase partly.

    I said to her na A/T na ang kunin para madali yung pagda-drive niya from home to office (Manila to BGC). Pero OK din sa kanya sa M/T since sa manual siya natuto sa driving school.

    heto ang reco ko sa kanya:

    Mirage GLX
    Wigo G or E
    New Celerio (may discount na ba sila kapag bago?)
    anything else?

    But, sabi din niya sa akin na inirereconsider din niya bumili ng second hand. Tapos after one year, ibebenta na niya to buy a new one. OK lang ba kumuha ng second hand cars sa bank? (yung mga repossessed ones)

    Thanks!
    Mirage G4 GLX CVT (around 560K Php after discounts)
    Celerio CVT (528K after discount; currently on 20K Php discount as part of their introductory offer)

    The Wigo isn't as cheap as it used to be. Other than the Toyota badge (it's actually a rebadged Daihatsu, fyi), it's not a good option because it reeks of cheapness and it's relatively not fuel efficient.

    The Mirage G4 (sedan version of the Mirage) is very spacious. Interior is almost as spacious as a Vios or City. As for the Celerio, it's even more fuel efficient than the Mirage hatch CVT variant and slightly more spacious too. Personally I'd get the Mirage G4 due to the space/price ratio. Hard to beat really.

    Dark horse option: Hyundai Grand i10. It's almost 600K Php for the cheapest automatic variant, but it's a fair bit classier than the Mirage and Celerio in terms of ride quality, space, materials, NVH, etc. It's clearly the upscale option. No ABS on the cheaper variant though and I can't comment on its fuel efficiency. Lastly, beware of Hyundai's casa maintenance. Very expensive from experience. If you want cheap casa maintenance get a Kia or Toyota.

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    I beg to differ, Hyundai i10 can't possibly be classier than Mirage G4 because it's a supercompact (overpriced) while the latter is subcompact (class higher).

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    Mirage glx or new celerio.
    Or if you want a little sportier, but not exactly fc fruendly, then piccanto.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Horsepower View Post
    I beg to differ, Hyundai i10 can't possibly be classier than Mirage G4 because it's a supercompact (overpriced) while the latter is subcompact (class higher).
    Drive one and you'll see what I mean. Size isn't everything. The Grand i10 is clearly the more posh vehicle. The NVH levels alone on the Grand i10 is noticeably better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kestana View Post
    Drive one and you'll see what I mean. Size isn't everything. The Grand i10 is clearly the more posh vehicle. The NVH levels alone on the Grand i10 is noticeably better.
    Even topgear agrees: http://www.topgear.com.ph/drives/rev...and-i10-1-2-at

    Although hyundai after sales really sucks. How about the picanto?

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    My dad's best friend (who is car saavy) loves his mirage. He was even convincing me to get one!

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    Mirage hatchback GLX. Just make sure to get the latest version so it'll already have 14" alloy wheels, power windows sa rear, and abs.

    GLS to get other nice-to-haves like GPS, rear spoiler, fog lamps, side mirror-mounted turn signals, etc.

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    AFAIK, Mirage, Wigo, Celerio, Eon, i10, etc. belongs to minicar segment while Accent, Vios, City, Rio, etc. belongs to subcompact cars. Correct me if I'm wrong.

    Anyway, BTT, I would pick Grand i10 then Mirage, Wigo.

    Grand i10 for looks and much classier feel. Mirage for practicality and Wigo because its T-badge.

    Just my 2 cents

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    Mirage ako.
    Oo ok ang i10 kaysa mirage. Kaso ang mahal. Nasa vios range ka na. Tapos medyo bare pa compared sa mirage

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    Quote Originally Posted by andrewnathaniel View Post
    AFAIK, Mirage, Wigo, Celerio, Eon, i10, etc. belongs to minicar segment while Accent, Vios, City, Rio, etc. belongs to subcompact cars. Correct me if I'm wrong.

    Anyway, BTT, I would pick Grand i10 then Mirage, Wigo.

    Grand i10 for looks and much classier feel. Mirage for practicality and Wigo because its T-badge.

    Just my 2 cents

    Yes you are correct, all of the car mentioned are actually a class smaller than Sub-compact but really, with cars getting bigger with each generation, it is getting hard to call Altis as a Compact car and Vios as sub-compact.

    My vote goes for Mirage G4 GLX (or any Mirage variant). afaik, both Mirage and Mirage G4 has a 70k cash discount.

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    thanks sa comments niyo guys...sa November or January pa balak bumili ang friend ko, but I'm thinking na baka kaunti na lang ang discount ng mga dealers since peak season na ang November. (maybe I'm wrong).

    may nagsabi din dito na isa pang choice ang Picanto...but I'm not sure kung OK siya pagdating sa FC (I recall yung isang incident sa isang car show sa MOA whereas yung isang owner ng Picanto, inreklamo ang Kia dahil sa bad FC).

    one more thing as well, me and my lady friend already rode our common friend's Wigo and she and myself are impressed sa spacious interior niya. kaya she also considers the Wigo.

    any dealers na nagbibigay ng big discounts and generous freebies?

    thanks ulit ;)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Horsepower View Post
    I beg to differ, Hyundai i10 can't possibly be classier than Mirage G4 because it's a supercompact (overpriced) while the latter is subcompact (class higher).
    just sitting inside them... i give the winner's card to the i10.
    who says supercompacts have no class?
    overpriced... i agree.. but classy just the same.

    and despite all infoes pointing to the mirage as the better buy, i still got a wigo.. because it's a toyota!

    but TS... what gives with your lady friend? bibili ng second hand ngayon, only to sell it after a year to get a brand new one? kung ok naman yung second hand unit na nabili, bat papalitan pa? unless... bigay ng kumpanya sa kanya nang libre!
    naku... kung GF ko yan... tsugi na siya.. habang maaga pa.. high maintenance..

    heh heh.
    Last edited by dr. d; August 31st, 2015 at 10:45 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by myas110 View Post
    thanks sa comments niyo guys...sa November or January pa balak bumili ang friend ko, but I'm thinking na baka kaunti na lang ang discount ng mga dealers since peak season na ang November. (maybe I'm wrong).

    may nagsabi din dito na isa pang choice ang Picanto...but I'm not sure kung OK siya pagdating sa FC (I recall yung isang incident sa isang car show sa MOA whereas yung isang owner ng Picanto, inreklamo ang Kia dahil sa bad FC).

    one more thing as well, me and my lady friend already rode our common friend's Wigo and she and myself are impressed sa spacious interior niya. kaya she also considers the Wigo.

    any dealers na nagbibigay ng big discounts and generous freebies?

    thanks ulit ;)
    December ka bumili. Pinaka generous ang casa nyan. Naghahabol ng quota.
    Wag january. Yang ang pinakabarat na season

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    just sitting inside them... i give the winner's card to the i10.
    who says supercompacts have no class?
    overpriced... i agree.. but classy just the same.

    and despite all infoes pointing to the mirage as the better buy, i still got a wigo.. because it's a toyota!

    but TS... what gives with your lady friend? bibili ng second hand ngayon, only to sell it after a year to get a brand new one? kung ok naman yung second hand unit na nabili, bat papalitan pa? unless... bigay ng kumpanya sa kanya nang libre!
    naku... kung GF ko yan... tsugi na siya.. habang maaga pa.. high maintenance..

    heh heh.
    sabi ko nga sa kanya and she nodded na bumili na lang ng bago para wala masyadong sakit sa ulo pagdating sa maintenance (for as long as masunod yung PMS ng future car niya)

    so to summarize, eto ang choices ko na pwede niyang piliin na subcompact cars:

    - Toyota Wigo G (either manual or auto) (top choice)
    - Mistubishi Mirage HB GLX (manual or CVT) (#2 choice)
    - Kia Picanto (1.2 EX manual or 1.2 EX auto)
    - Hyundai grand i10 1.0E (manual or CVT)

    I might throw in the Hyundai Eon and Chevy Spark as well, pero it will depend kung gusto niya (and kung recommended din sa inyo). Isasama niya ako sa pagcanvass ng cars BTW.

    Also, how can we get those cars through bank via car loan? Paano ba ang kalakaran nito sa pagkuha ng kotse sa mga dealer?

    (Sorry, I will not recommend getting her a car through in-house financing ng mga car dealers even if pinaka-priority ang kukuha nito just to get the car faster, since AFAIK, her company will shoulder part of the car purchase).

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    Quote Originally Posted by myas110 View Post
    sabi ko nga sa kanya and she nodded na bumili na lang ng bago para wala masyadong sakit sa ulo pagdating sa maintenance (for as long as masunod yung PMS ng future car niya)

    so to summarize, eto ang choices ko na pwede niyang piliin na subcompact cars:

    - Toyota Wigo G (either manual or auto) (top choice)
    - Mistubishi Mirage HB GLX (manual or CVT) (#2 choice)
    - Kia Picanto (1.2 EX manual or 1.2 EX auto)
    - Hyundai grand i10 1.0E (manual or CVT)

    I might throw in the Hyundai Eon and Chevy Spark as well, pero it will depend kung gusto niya (and kung recommended din sa inyo). Isasama niya ako sa pagcanvass ng cars BTW.

    Also, how can we get those cars through bank via car loan? Paano ba ang kalakaran nito sa pagkuha ng kotse sa mga dealer?

    (Sorry, I will not recommend getting her a car through in-house financing ng mga car dealers even if pinaka-priority ang kukuha nito just to get the car faster, since AFAIK, her company will shoulder part of the car purchase).
    the mirage is the better buy. i got my wigo because it's a toyota.
    but the new celerio might be worth a look.. as is the brio, although it is kinda pricey.
    but hey! the vios J is less than 590 with small discounts..

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    ^Vios * 590K is the base variant (targeted towards Fleet and available in white only). They will only give a fixed 5K discount for this bec. it has the highest sales among all variants.

    Depending on the discount of the season, you can get a better deal with the Vios J (available in more colors, power windows, hub caps, cloth upholstery, etc).

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    changed my mind.
    Last edited by dr. d; September 1st, 2015 at 10:39 AM.

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    Yes, the Wigo is not as cheap as it used to be so more headache for Wigo vs. Mirage.

    Suggestions for your friend in no particular order:

    Mirage GLX CVT
    Mirage G4 GLX CVT
    Wigo G MT
    Vios J MT

    I would not suggest the Hyundai Eon or Chevy Spark.

    Let her test drive the vehicles before deciding which one to get.

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