BATTLE OF THE NEW SUV's - All New Everest vs 2016 Montero vs 2016 Fortuner

**StockEngine** · February 23rd, 2018 05:35 PM

Originally Posted by mda

The Everest Titanium and the Fort V comes to mind...

If the power liftgate comes standard in all variants, baka yan yung pwedeng first in segment feature hehe

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**kreme** · February 23rd, 2018 05:40 PM

Wala parin bang power tailgate yung mont gt? Alam ko may inooffer yung casa na upgrade with power tailgate button sa keys. Akala ko standard sa gt yun.

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**dos2** · February 23rd, 2018 05:41 PM

Originally Posted by kreme

Wala parin bang power tailgate yung mont gt? Alam ko may inooffer yung casa na upgrade with power tailgate button sa keys. Akala ko standard sa gt yun.

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Mukhang dealer option yan, di sya standard feature.

**kreme** · February 23rd, 2018 05:45 PM

I see. Baka 2019 new "feature". Haha.

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**yapoy86** · February 23rd, 2018 08:13 PM

Originally Posted by dos2

Wala pang presyo... siguro mas mahal to ng mga 70-100K vs sa normal variant.

First in segment kasi yung sa Toyota walang pindutan sa driver, pwede lang pindutin mismo dun sa tailgate?

meron din pindutan sa driver.. plus on/off switch... useful itong power tail gate lalo na sa mga pinagkaitan ng tangkad.. hirap kaya abutin yung pinto.. tatalon ka pa sabay lambitin

**yebo** · February 23rd, 2018 09:48 PM

Originally Posted by yapoy86

meron din pindutan sa driver.. plus on/off switch... useful itong power tail gate lalo na sa mga pinagkaitan ng tangkad.. hirap kaya abutin yung pinto.. tatalon ka pa sabay lambitin

at paano kung di bumaba, kakahiya nakasabit ka hahaha!

lagyan ng tali parang sa mga uv express.

**minicarph** · February 24th, 2018 12:13 PM

ako ang eish ko mag mura eh yun automatic step boards. My suvs would look even more besutiful without those namumuti or napuputukan na stepboards

**jut703** · February 24th, 2018 02:16 PM

I recently tried out the MU-X BluePower since it was in our shortlist because of the competitive pre-TRAIN prices (1.598M vs 1.539M for the CRV 2.0S).

In a nutshell, the MU-X feels a lot like Pico De Loro - it's a nice place and it has all the right ingredients, but the execution really doesn't feel refined or upscale (very SM-esque).

For starters, it looks very good from outside after the facelift. Whereas it was simply a low-cost option to the other PPVs before, it now looks just as attractive with the subtle changes in its front and rear fascia plus the bigger rims.

The drivetrain is also very impressive. Everyone raves about the linearity and relentlessness of the 3.0 Bluepower, and rightfully so as the 177 hp engine paired with the new 6AT makes accelerating with the 1900 kg truck feel effortless.

What caught me by surprise is how quiet it is from inside - very little diesel clatter than can easily be drowned out by music. This is a big improvement from the old 2.5L MUX and other previous-gen PPVs. Unlike the Korean or German diesels though, Isuzu achieved it by putting a lot of sound deadening rather than having an inherently quiet engine (it still sounds truck-ish from outside) - but it's how it sounds from the interior that really matters so it's all good.

Handling leaves much to be desired with the heavy and slow steering and the combination of soft suspension + tall ride height. It's an inherent PPV problem and not the MUX's fault alone, but then again the Everest is also a PPV but that handles tidily for a 2-ton truck and doesn't nose-dive as vehemently. At least the MU-X feels sure-footed with its braking, something that can't be said with the first gen PPVs. As expected, ride comfort is nowhere as good as a crossover, but it's good enough for PPV standards and you know that should you need to drive on poorly paved (or unpaved) roads frequently, the chassis can take the beating.

The moment you step inside, you'd be happily greeted by a very spacious cabin with good visbility all around. 3rd row space is actually livable (better than a CRV, Fortuner, or Montero) but only just - it's still cramped of course and if you really need the 3rd row often then you might want to look at an MPV instead. The fold-and-tumble feature of the second row helps a lot with third row ingress/egress, but too bad that it doesn't slide forwards and backwards.

The MUX's achilles heel after all these years remains to be its interior design, particularly the dashboard and steering wheel. I applaud Isuzu's efforts of putting leather on every touchpoint - seats, steering wheel, dashboard, door sidings, instrument cluster - but to be honest it still doesn't feel as upscale as my Civic for example even if it doesn't have a single ounce of leather. The interior badly needs a redesign (the Chinese-market model already has a new interior and that looks awesome and they should've brought it here).

Another disappointing feature is the car's head unit. On paper, it seems to have everything covered - Bluetooth, USB, a second LCD, even screen mirroring. But again, the execution feels very cheap - the menus are not intuitive at all and look like they were lifted off a generic Chinese tablet. Honda, Ford, Mazda, and even Toyota and Mitsubishi (with their generic AVT head-units) all have better user interfaces.

One more thing to note is that the post-TRAIN pricing (1.795M) puts it close to the Everest Titanium (1.918M), Honda CR-V 1.6S (1.835M), and Fortuner 2.4V (1.906M). It's still cheaper than the competition but not by much, so it's no longer just a value-for-money choice - you really have to like the overall package if you'll get this over its competitors.

Overall, the MUX has a lot of things going for it - superb drivetrain, improved looks, competitive feature set, a relatively comfortable ride, and the durabuility of a PPV chassis. If you aren't put off by its cheap interior and wallowy handling, then it's a very recommendable car.

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**babkalakal** · February 24th, 2018 03:01 PM

Originally Posted by jut703

I recently tried out the MU-X BluePower since it was in our shortlist because of the competitive pre-TRAIN prices (1.598M vs 1.539M for the CRV 2.0S).

In a nutshell, the MU-X feels a lot like Pico De Loro - it's a nice place and it has all the right ingredients, but the execution really doesn't feel refined or upscale (very SM-esque).

For starters, it looks very good from outside after the facelift. Whereas it was simply a low-cost option to the other PPVs before, it now looks just as attractive with the subtle changes in its front and rear fascia plus the bigger rims.

The drivetrain is also very impressive. Everyone raves about the linearity and relentlessness of the 3.0 Bluepower, and rightfully so as the 177 hp engine paired with the new 6AT makes accelerating with the 1900 kg truck feel effortless.

What caught me by surprise is how quiet it is from inside - very little diesel clatter than can easily be drowned out by music. This is a big improvement from the old 2.5L MUX and other previous-gen PPVs. Unlike the Korean or German diesels though, Isuzu achieved it by putting a lot of sound deadening rather than having an inherently quiet engine (it still sounds truck-ish from outside) - but it's how it sounds from the interior that really matters so it's all good.

Handling leaves much to be desired with the heavy and slow steering and the combination of soft suspension + tall ride height. It's an inherent PPV problem and not the MUX's fault alone, but then again the Everest is also a PPV but that handles tidily for a 2-ton truck and doesn't nose-dive as vehemently. At least the MU-X feels sure-footed with its braking, something that can't be said with the first gen PPVs. As expected, ride comfort is nowhere as good as a crossover, but it's good enough for PPV standards and you know that should you need to drive on poorly paved (or unpaved) roads frequently, the chassis can take the beating.

The moment you step inside, you'd be happily greeted by a very spacious cabin with good visbility all around. 3rd row space is actually livable (better than a CRV, Fortuner, or Montero) but only just - it's still cramped of course and if you really need the 3rd row often then you might want to look at an MPV instead. The fold-and-tumble feature of the second row helps a lot with third row ingress/egress, but too bad that it doesn't slide forwards and backwards.

The MUX's achilles heel after all these years remains to be its interior design, particularly the dashboard and steering wheel. I applaud Isuzu's efforts of putting leather on every touchpoint - seats, steering wheel, dashboard, door sidings, instrument cluster - but to be honest it still doesn't feel as upscale as my Civic for example even if it doesn't have a single ounce of leather. The interior badly needs a redesign (the Chinese-market model already has a new interior and that looks awesome and they should've brought it here).

Another disappointing feature is the car's head unit. On paper, it seems to have everything covered - Bluetooth, USB, a second LCD, even screen mirroring. But again, the execution feels very cheap - the menus are not intuitive at all and look like they were lifted off a generic Chinese tablet. Honda, Ford, Mazda, and even Toyota and Mitsubishi (with their generic AVT head-units) all have better user interfaces.

One more thing to note is that the post-TRAIN pricing (1.795M) puts it close to the Everest Titanium (1.918M), Honda CR-V 1.6S (1.835M), and Fortuner 2.4V (1.906M). It's still cheaper than the competition but not by much, so it's no longer just a value-for-money choice - you really have to like the overall package if you'll get this over its competitors.

Overall, the MUX has a lot of things going for it - superb drivetrain, improved looks, competitive feature set, a relatively comfortable ride, and the durabuility of a PPV chassis. If you aren't put off by its cheap interior and wallowy handling, then it's a very recommendable car.

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Just as an aside. This talk about value proposition has got me thinking about hyundai and its sta.fe. Noon value was one of its core selling points but as of late pa mahal na ng pamahal even more so now post-TRAIN. Tapos ngayon may kaso pa sila ng mis declaration ng import taxes. Sayang i like the 3rd gen. sta.fe design lalo na noon unang labas even the latest grand starex looks great especially the upscale dash interior.

I whole heartedly agree the mu-x interior is in terrible need of an update.

**GTcervan** · February 24th, 2018 03:05 PM

Originally Posted by jut703

The MUX's achilles heel after all these years remains to be its interior design, particularly the dashboard and steering wheel. I applaud Isuzu's efforts of putting leather on every touchpoint - seats, steering wheel, dashboard, door sidings, instrument cluster - but to be honest it still doesn't feel as upscale as my Civic for example even if it doesn't have a single ounce of leather. The interior badly needs a redesign (the Chinese-market model already has a new interior and that looks awesome and they should've brought it here).

I agree with this one. Even the current gen City has better interior and materials compared to the inside of the original MU-X. The chinese model really addressed that problem well (which was an essential step to make it feel on par with the competition) pero hindi gugustuhing makita ni OB yun dito. 😂