BATTLE OF THE NEW SUV's - All New Everest vs 2016 Montero vs 2016 Fortuner

[Egan101]

so who are these Americans that we blindly follow, In America, their Montero or Fort is the Explorer, their Land Cruiser or Safari is the Expedition. and with them having more treacherous weather and landscape than us and yet their workhorses are the mighty Ford build tough. so how can you say that what they have is a lie, and we are the truth. diba. think about it .

I can vouch for how tough those Expeditions are. I spent two winters in the Midwest and never did my hulk of an Exped failed me on the road. I hauled a lot of stuff with that truck. Too bad, it's just too thirsty, like 12 miles to the gallon.

[boybit]

Caught this a couple of times already, just like to clarify na.

Ano ba definition mo ng full time 4wd? You can't compare 4wd system ng everest sa new monty mo. Sa monty, like sa new gen fort, old gen everest and old monty, it uses a "dumb" center differential that is lockable. Either you lock it or unlock it. So pag naka 2H ka lang, phitin mo knob to 4H to engage open center diff 4x4. Some call it "part time" 4wd, they say. Pinaganda lang term and added different driving modes like snow to adjust ABS, traction control and stability control sensitivity...

Basically, if you lock it(4Hlc or 4Llc) 50:50 torque split nya for front and rear. If di locked(4H), kung saan madulas gulong dun pupunta power.

Sa new everest, intelligent AWD sya, may clutch pack ung center diff to vary torque split between front and rear axle on-demand. Same sya sa subaru awd, SH-AWD ng honda, S-AWC ng mitsu Evos, Nissan Attesa GTRs, bmw x-drive at sa mga 4matic ng chedeng, etc...

At very least, 2:98(front:rear) ang torque split ng everest active center diff. Then pag may na detect sensors ng sudden change in g-force, yaw, pitch and roll, and or wheel spin/slip, saka nya i vary torque split from 30:70, 50:50 or 98:2,etc... Depende kung saan tire may grip dun nya ibibigay power to prevent over or understeer, or balahaw. Then using brake traction control, it can even send 100% torque on just one wheel. All this things happen in millisecond...

Both systems have pros and cons, point is di mo pede compare 4wd system ni eve kay monty. I think si Eve lang PPV(pay per view? LoL) na may ganitong 4wd system.



P.S.
Ranger 4x4 uses same set up like kay monty mo.

4wd is that all 4wheels is powered by engine. To dig deeper. There are awd (fulltime)and parttime 4wd. Fulltime is usually use on high speed for extra traction on slippery road and parttime is usually use for trail low speed high torque steep rocky road. I have driven an audi awd from newjersy to north carolina during winter. And indeed it helps a lot. For parttime i have tried pinatubo trail and river crossing in tanay. Most of the ppv's mux . Fort .chevy are parttime. Which you cannot use on highspeed like hiway. Only monty and everest have these features to use it both. Thats y im comparing both of them. The everest is fulltime 4x4 with trail capability. While the monty you have a choice to be fulltime 4x4 as well as fulltime 2wd which saves you 1 to 5 percent gas money.Besides superlect has been proven its reliability in dakkar and old pajeros about 25 yrs ago. Indeed we can compare all 4x4 . Since it is ppv's and its 4x4 . Whether its part time or fulltime. Price , technology may differ. Monty may not have the best technology but surely it has the best overall price per technology and price per features. And certainly monty engine is the most advance in passenger car first in its class to introduce mivecs in diesel engine.

[boybit]

ford casas are the role models of the isuzu, mitsu, toyota casas today. if they can charge more, why dont we. so given na yun. what im after is when youre the one doing your own maint, matipid ang ford coz the banawe retailers are well connected sa mga American aftermarket parts.

sa carnap, obviously di ka pa na-carnapan. it takes three months for the insurance to pay you and that is after a Hi ako yun mag oocular sa signage on my way na nasa osmena highway nako investigation period na tense na tense ka coz a third party insurer doest really concern about your trauma.

for me, this is where Fords have the edge, carnappers and carjackers avoid American cars like the plague. yun Ford Explorer ko nga iniwan ko na yan sa Vinzons Port sa zbicol, sa batangas port and other ports where I need to go to an islabd for a 2 night r&r.

can you seriously do that to your brand spanking Forts, montys and mux. the main purpose of vacation is peace of mind, how can you have peace of mind when your jap car is under the hands pf promdis na bibigyan mo lang ng 180 per day parking on a place where you are a total stranger. but not with Fords, fords dont interest the enterprsiing people, sa rent sangla ngs, walang ford lol

Well its more traumatic to be carnapped without insurance that waiting 3 to 6 months of investigation. At least may makukuha ka. Besides insurance is not for carnap priority. Mas madalas naman natin ma encounter accident. Saw one who is park in alabang town center hit by a lady driven automatic accord nataranta binanga yun isang kotse nahulog sa parking. Accidents like my classmate total wreck SIR civic. Which insurance paid the car. Kahit anong ingat mo. May driver naman na d nag iingat. Madalas mangyari sa nlex slex ang magkakasunod na bangaan tumbok .especially during rainy season. Yung barkada ko jazz nasunog sa kalsada. Binayaran ng insurance. So insurance is peace of mind over all. You spend money on vacation. You also need to spend money on peace of mind. Regarding sa parts ng ford. Surplus and Replacement parts are cheaper than oem parts. If the car is not abundant. No one will sell replacement parts and few are surplus . Auto supply and casas will not sell or stock slow moving parts. Small matter Such as aircon vent. Power windows cable and motor etc. major engine and trany parts. Surplus for door and trims. When the car get old you would not want to spend much money on parts that is close to its resale value. Lets say you accidentally destroy your engine out of negligence. Our 5yrs old mitsubishi L300 engine was destroyed by our driver due to over heating. Would cost 40k if i order new cylinder head and wait for a month. While surplus just cost me 7000 pesos. People love isuzus not because they are reliable but because of abundance of surplus among trucks. Even turnilyo meron.

[boybit]

You forgot to mention that the monty has the softest suspension. Only downside from what I've read medyo masikip daw cockpit ng monty maybe due to its thick center console. The monty is a good buy specially with the huge discounts while the eve has increased its price already.

Yup nice suspension and its better than my mux in cornering at high speed. Draw back is small interior space right at the center console. But fun to drive. Many toys and responsive.

[boybit]

If totoo sabi ni boybi.. 1.7m plus nalang ng GT na monty... good buy na yun... kung maganda lang binigay ng SA ko na price... baka nag monty nalang ako.. sa TOTL premium ng Everest - because of the price difference...

2M srp less 262k charge 1800+ for tpl. Toral of 1.740. They did not push any insurance on me even i got it cash. Waiting period 1 month. Not my choice of color. I want grey or brown but silver arrived first. Ayaw ko ng mag intay ng matagal. Ive waited mux 10 months when it was new no discount and even paid for registration tpl and push a certain insurance to be given a unit.

[boybit]

You kept on babbling na gusto mo ng fulltime 4wd yet you want a 2h option like subaru? Sorry pero parang ang labo hehe. Correct me if I am wrong pero afaik, lahat ng subaru except brz ay awd.

Anyways, maganda naman talaga montero. It was actually my first option dahil sa mga nababasa ko dito and on a car magazine. Heck, suv of the year pa nga diba? But upon checking and seating inside its cockpit, sa quality pa lang eh hindi na worth yung 2m ko. Hindi ako mayaman so I make sure na matutuwa ako sa bibilin ko.

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Soory Misunderstanding or typo error . Monty has the capability of awd vehicle like subaru. Yet it has an option of having only 2H to save a little gas money.

[boybit]

i guess thas the problem, bile ka ng Japan PPV durable nga pero di ka naman safe sa magnanakaw, bile ka ng non-Jap hindi nga ganun ka durable pero kahit iwan mo nakabukas walang kukuha ng car mo

yun lang ang dapat na basehan sa pagpili ng car. not the engine displacement, features etc. so decisions simplified dba

D naman lagi about car. Yun laman nya sa loob . Such as celfone laptop. Nakita ko sa nlex gas station for stopover. Yun crv ninakawan ng laptop. Dko maalala kung binasag glass but then . Criminal do pay toll fees for their business. Or pwede rin nagkataon na criminal nag stop over para sa refreshment nakakita ng opportunity.

[boybit]

here's one truth na baka bigla kayo kumambyo sa choice nyo. we all know that America is a continent with one of the harshest places on earth. meron dyan snowy area, meron desert, meron mga naglalakihan rock formations etc. etc.

The thing is Ford is made in America. And America is who for us, we blindly follow America lifestyle, hollywood, political setup. willing nga tayo magkipag-gyera sa China coz we love to follow everything America suggests, their ideas, their courage, their SPIRIT>

so who are these Americans that we blindly follow, In America, their Montero or Fort is the Explorer, their Land Cruiser or Safari is the Expedition. and with them having more treacherous weather and landscape than us and yet their workhorses are the mighty Ford build tough. so how can you say that what they have is a lie, and we are the truth. diba. think about it .

Though they have the roughest condition. They have good roads . Well engineered. The road cambers . Safety regulation. Clean air act. Etc . You are mentioning ford build tough. Yes but its on certain model. Not all model are tough.the car and sedan light vehicle. Are not reliable. While japs car are almost consistent in all line of models. Ive been in u.s for sometime and even work as partime mechanics during summer in vegas. Yet the car we repair are mostly american car. And my senior mechanics. Says that most of the americans dont like their products. Ford was previously no.1 in car manufacturing before. I thought they sell more because they are good. i found out that they produced car more than toyota because the govt support the company. Being standard fleet issue car such as ambulance and police car and many govt service own utilities. Thats makes its count more. But this fleet car dont profit much as retail does. And eventually coz of reliability issues jap car are preferred by many. Some americans still remember and question the Ford ethics of liability during its ford pinto case. Its even tackled in our class during my college years

[boybit]

Kahit subcompact car ngayon lagpas na ng 1 ton

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Sorry its 2.1 tons monty gt vs 2.5 tons 3.2 everest rought 300 kg plusdifference

[glenn manikis]

Though they have the roughest condition. They have good roads . Well engineered. The road cambers . Safety regulation. Clean air act. Etc . You are mentioning ford build tough. Yes but its on certain model. Not all model are tough.the car and sedan light vehicle. Are not reliable. While japs car are almost consistent in all line of models. Ive been in u.s for sometime and even work as partime mechanics during summer in vegas. Yet the car we repair are mostly american car. And my senior mechanics. Says that most of the americans dont like their products. Ford was previously no.1 in car manufacturing before. I thought they sell more because they are good. i found out that they produced car more than toyota because the govt support the company. Being standard fleet issue car such as ambulance and police car and many govt service own utilities. Thats makes its count more. But this fleet car dont profit much as retail does. And eventually coz of reliability issues jap car are preferred by many. Some americans still remember and question the Ford ethics of liability during its ford pinto case. Its even tackled in our class during my college years

Karamihan ng car car owners who complain against reliability are those you doesnt know how to maintain and use there vehicles... mostly but not all... Mis use or abuse improper use and maintenance..