Battle of the Compact MPVs (Ertiga, APV, Avanza, Mobilio, etc)

**jut703** · April 15th, 2015 01:51 PM

Double post

**jaggerx3** · April 15th, 2015 01:52 PM

Originally Posted by philsat

Thanks on your understanding sir..

Ako naman e open minded lang na tao. May sagot man ako sa tanog ko minsan e nag hahanap parin ako ng mas tamang sagot..

On the topic.
Compare to other brand like ertiga, mobilio e posible na mas nakawin ang avanza due to demand sa parts. It means yan ang senario if bibili ka ng avanza. Dapat maging maingat...

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Thanks on your understanding sir..

Ako naman e open minded lang na tao. May sagot man ako sa tanog ko minsan e nag hahanap parin ako ng mas tamang sagot or minsan gusto ko rin e proof na tama rin yung idea ko.

On the topic.
Compare to other brand like ertiga, mobilio e posible na mas nakawin ang avanza due to demand sa parts. It means yan ang senario if bibili ka ng avanza. Dapat maging maingat...

Nakawin? Eh di dapat madami nh Avanza na di natakbo ngayon dahil kulang ng pyesa.
O baka ikaw nagnanakaw para pang gawa ng anemic concept car mo? 😁

**jut703** · April 15th, 2015 01:59 PM

Philsat, if you're truly open-minded, you should be open to the the reality that some (actually, most) people have different ideas than yours. What you've been doing is bulldozing your ideas and opinions on different threads, and thrashing people who think otherwise.

If you truly want to learn through asking questions, then be ready to receive answers that may not be what you initially hypothesized. Also, consider that to some people, your questions are so inane and whimsical that they don't deserve detailed and intellectual replies.

Your demeanor is more akin to trolling than to real inquisitive discussion. You've only been here in the forum for a week and you've caused havoc in so many threads because of your arrogance disguised as humility (i.e. "basic lang alam ko sa kotse pero baka di kayo umubra sa basic knowledge ko"). This is in violation of forum rules once again (which I hope you've read). Your defiance of Cathy as moderator is also against the rules.

Let this serve as your last straw. Instigate one more heated argument and you're out of here.

**philsat** · April 15th, 2015 01:59 PM

Sir i respect your opinion..
Pero i still compare avanza to ertiga at mobilio. tama?

My opinion e
Mas nakawin ang avanza compare sa entiga, apv, mobilio due to demand sa 2nd hand parts na i think taxi avanza ang most comsumer. (hindi ko nilalahat) . Alam natin na may black market sa 2nd hand car na yung buong car na carnap e chop chop yan. Base sa nakita kung data before dito sa QC e mas marami ang carnap na toyota than other brand.

My opinion maybe correct or not. Please respect.

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Sir i respect your opinion..
Pero i still compare avanza to ertiga at mobilio. tama?

My opinion e
Mas nakawin ang avanza compare sa entiga, apv, mobilio due to demand sa 2nd hand parts na i think taxi avanza ang most comsumer. (hindi ko nilalahat) . Alam natin na may black market sa 2nd hand parts ng car na yung buong car na carnap e chop chop yan. Base sa nakita kung data before dito sa QC e mas marami ang carnap na toyota than other brand.

My opinion maybe correct or not. Please respect.

**17Sphynx17** · April 15th, 2015 02:10 PM

Originally Posted by philsat

Sir i respect your opinion..
Pero i still compare avanza to ertiga at mobilio. tama?

My opinion e
Mas nakawin ang avanza compare sa entiga, apv, mobilio due to demand sa 2nd hand parts na i think taxi avanza ang most comsumer. (hindi ko nilalahat) . Alam natin na may black market sa 2nd hand car na yung buong car na carnap e chop chop yan. Base sa nakita kung data before dito sa QC e mas marami ang carnap na toyota than other brand.

My opinion maybe correct or not. Please respect.

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Sir i respect your opinion..
Pero i still compare avanza to ertiga at mobilio. tama?

My opinion e
Mas nakawin ang avanza compare sa entiga, apv, mobilio due to demand sa 2nd hand parts na i think taxi avanza ang most comsumer. (hindi ko nilalahat) . Alam natin na may black market sa 2nd hand parts ng car na yung buong car na carnap e chop chop yan. Base sa nakita kung data before dito sa QC e mas marami ang carnap na toyota than other brand.

My opinion maybe correct or not. Please respect.

No, you ASSUME and are making an ASS out of U and ME. (although the MEs in this case are just trying to get back on topic and take it back from your nonsense).

Lahat naman ng kotse pwede nakawin. Nagkataon lang Malaki talaga volume ng Toyota sales sa Pinas and that is undeniable. If 8 out of 10 cars on the roads are Toyotas, obviously lalabas na parang mas nakawin ang Toyota kahit sabihin mo na constant ang car napping rate at say 10 cars in a week kunwari. Odds are just against Toyota if babasehan mo lang yung datos dahil probability palang lamang na si Toyota sa sheer number pa lang.

Pero pano din naging rason yun ng lack of spare parts? Eh ang laki nga ng market niya na andito so sigurado may demand sa piyesa, bakit kakapusin? Magisip ka nga kasi muna bago ka magsatsat. Kakasabi lang sa iyo ilang pages ako na kung gusto mo ng tamang liwanag sa datos mo bago ka magpuputak dito, pumunta ka sa Avanza thread para magtanong sa owners ng avanza talaga kung anu issues nila especially related sa parts kung yung ang pinuputok ng butchi mo.

Please lang, magisip ka kasi muna ok? Sira na itong buong thread na ito dahil sa walang kwenta assumption mo na hindi pinagisipan na ilang beses mo din inulit ulit.

**philsat** · April 15th, 2015 02:12 PM

Originally Posted by jaggerx3

Nakawin? Eh di dapat madami nh Avanza na di natakbo ngayon dahil kulang ng pyesa.
O baka ikaw nagnanakaw para pang gawa ng anemic concept car mo? ��

Sir respect my opinion.. If sa tingin mo mali di ok.. Tama?
Maraming tumatakbo at marami rin nangngailangan ng 2nd hand affordable parts. Tama po ba?? Alangan bumili ka ng brand new at kalasin mo para ibinta ng pira piraso.

Ayaw ko na sir gumawa ng gulo. respect my opinion and i will respect your opinion..

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Originally Posted by jaggerx3

Nakawin? Eh di dapat madami nh Avanza na di natakbo ngayon dahil kulang ng pyesa.
O baka ikaw nagnanakaw para pang gawa ng anemic concept car mo? 😁

Sir respect my opinion.. If sa tingin mo mali di ok.. Tama?
Maraming tumatakbo at marami rin nangngailangan ng 2nd hand affordable parts. Tama po ba?? Alangan bumili ka ng brand new at kalasin mo para ibinta ng pira piraso.

Ayaw ko na sir gumawa ng gulo. respect my opinion and i will respect your opinion..

**philsat** · April 15th, 2015 02:16 PM

Originally Posted by jut703

Philsat, if you're truly open-minded, you should be open to the the reality that some (actually, most) people have different ideas than yours. What you've been doing is bulldozing your ideas and opinions on different threads, and thrashing people who think otherwise.

If you truly want to learn through asking questions, then be ready to receive answers that may not be what you initially hypothesized. Also, consider that to some people, your questions are so inane and whimsical that they don't deserve detailed and intellectual replies.

Your demeanor is more akin to trolling than to real inquisitive discussion. You've only been here in the forum for a week and you've caused havoc in so many threads because of your arrogance disguised as humility (i.e. "basic lang alam ko sa kotse pero baka di kayo umubra sa basic knowledge ko"). This is in violation of forum rules once again (which I hope you've read). Your defiance of Cathy as moderator is also against the rules.

Let this serve as your last straw. Instigate one more heated argument and you're out of here.

Ok sir. Pero sana maging balance din. maybe my opinion and idea is different to them kaya nagkakaroon ng pag tatalo. Pero sports lang sana. Walang personalan. Respect my opinion. If sa tingin ninyo mali pwd correct but be ready to my another opinion and question..

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Originally Posted by jut703

Philsat, if you're truly open-minded, you should be open to the the reality that some (actually, most) people have different ideas than yours. What you've been doing is bulldozing your ideas and opinions on different threads, and thrashing people who think otherwise.

If you truly want to learn through asking questions, then be ready to receive answers that may not be what you initially hypothesized. Also, consider that to some people, your questions are so inane and whimsical that they don't deserve detailed and intellectual replies.

Your demeanor is more akin to trolling than to real inquisitive discussion. You've only been here in the forum for a week and you've caused havoc in so many threads because of your arrogance disguised as humility (i.e. "basic lang alam ko sa kotse pero baka di kayo umubra sa basic knowledge ko"). This is in violation of forum rules once again (which I hope you've read). Your defiance of Cathy as moderator is also against the rules.

Let this serve as your last straw. Instigate one more heated argument and you're out of here.

Ok sir. Pero sana maging balance din. maybe my opinion and idea is different to them kaya nagkakaroon ng pag tatalo. Pero sports lang sana. Walang personalan. Respect my opinion. If sa tingin ninyo mali pwd correct but be ready to my another opinion and question..

**jut703** · April 15th, 2015 02:21 PM

Like I said, noone is obliged to follow up on their initial disagreement with whatever opinion you might have.

This mentality of yours where you suddenly feel superior because noone reacted to your rebuttal is what ignites arguments and name-calling.

Now, to the rest of the Tsikot community who're pissed at Philsat, the least you can do is not stoop down to his level. I would assume that you know better than to pick a fight with a mentally challenged child in real life, so you can probably extend the same patience here in the forums to a fella like philsat.

**cast_no_shadow** · April 15th, 2015 02:24 PM

Another thing dahil 2nd hand parts / surplus = Nakaw na agad?

Nangyayari ito? YES

Pero pwede din kinahoy pero legal.

Just so you know, if total loss na vehicle yung insurance kukunin yung totaled vehicle

insurance now sell this by bidding.

Dito papasok mga may autoshops or anyone na gusto bilhin yung totaled vehicle to restore it back

if beyond repair na kakahuyin na lang mga magagamit at mabebentang piyesa.

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Yung concern mo? if i'm about to buy a vehicle, given na yan.

never will i get bothered. again if mananakawan ka, mananakawan ka.

shortage ng piyesa?

usually mga bagong modelo lang nangyayari yan. Prior sa pagbili given fact na din yan.

deal with it. Pinili mo yan eh. Hindi naman kagulat gulat yan.

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So if i'm to take your argument.

ertiga = new sa market (prone sa shortage ng parts)

mobilio = new sa market (prone sa shortage ng parts)

avanza = Andame nila sa pilipinas!! (prone sa theft and dahil madami consumer, prone din sa shortage ng parts)

Aba eh wala ka nga mabibili.

**philsat** · April 15th, 2015 02:26 PM

Originally Posted by 17Sphynx17

No, you ASSUME and are making an ASS out of U and ME. (although the MEs in this case are just trying to get back on topic and take it back from your nonsense).

Lahat naman ng kotse pwede nakawin. Nagkataon lang Malaki talaga volume ng Toyota sales sa Pinas and that is undeniable. If 8 out of 10 cars on the roads are Toyotas, obviously lalabas na parang mas nakawin ang Toyota kahit sabihin mo na constant ang car napping rate at say 10 cars in a week kunwari. Odds are just against Toyota if babasehan mo lang yung datos dahil probability palang lamang na si Toyota sa sheer number pa lang.

Pero pano din naging rason yun ng lack of spare parts? Eh ang laki nga ng market niya na andito so sigurado may demand sa piyesa, bakit kakapusin? Magisip ka nga kasi muna bago ka magsatsat. Kakasabi lang sa iyo ilang pages ako na kung gusto mo ng tamang liwanag sa datos mo bago ka magpuputak dito, pumunta ka sa Avanza thread para magtanong sa owners ng avanza talaga kung anu issues nila especially related sa parts kung yung ang pinuputok ng butchi mo.

Please lang, magisip ka kasi muna ok? Sira na itong buong thread na ito dahil sa walang kwenta assumption mo na hindi pinagisipan na ilang beses mo din inulit ulit.

Respect my opinion and question..

Posible sir na hindi kakapusin sa affordable spare parts kasi mas maraming nanakaw na toyota para e chop chop.. Pwd din ba yung idea na yun sir??

Ang akin lang naman dito e kung mag avanza ka e dapat mas ingatan mo ang car mo. Hindi ako agains sa toyota. Matibay ang mga car nila..

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Originally Posted by 17Sphynx17

No, you ASSUME and are making an ASS out of U and ME. (although the MEs in this case are just trying to get back on topic and take it back from your nonsense).

Lahat naman ng kotse pwede nakawin. Nagkataon lang Malaki talaga volume ng Toyota sales sa Pinas and that is undeniable. If 8 out of 10 cars on the roads are Toyotas, obviously lalabas na parang mas nakawin ang Toyota kahit sabihin mo na constant ang car napping rate at say 10 cars in a week kunwari. Odds are just against Toyota if babasehan mo lang yung datos dahil probability palang lamang na si Toyota sa sheer number pa lang.

Pero pano din naging rason yun ng lack of spare parts? Eh ang laki nga ng market niya na andito so sigurado may demand sa piyesa, bakit kakapusin? Magisip ka nga kasi muna bago ka magsatsat. Kakasabi lang sa iyo ilang pages ako na kung gusto mo ng tamang liwanag sa datos mo bago ka magpuputak dito, pumunta ka sa Avanza thread para magtanong sa owners ng avanza talaga kung anu issues nila especially related sa parts kung yung ang pinuputok ng butchi mo.

Please lang, magisip ka kasi muna ok? Sira na itong buong thread na ito dahil sa walang kwenta assumption mo na hindi pinagisipan na ilang beses mo din inulit ulit.

Respect my opinion and question..

Posible sir na hindi kakapusin sa affordable spare parts kasi mas maraming nanakaw na toyota para e chop chop.. Pwd din ba yung idea na yun sir??

Ang akin lang naman dito e kung mag avanza ka e dapat mas ingatan mo ang car mo. Hindi ako agains sa toyota. Matibay ang mga car nila..