All-New Honda Jazz vs. Toyota Yaris vs. Toyota Vios

[peejabi]

Hi, we're planning to buy the all-new 1.5 Honda Jazz soon. Had a discussion with a relative awhile ago and she was convincing us to get a different car. Didn't have second thoughts naman kasi decided na kami ng wife ko. Hehe.

I know wala pa malamang makakapag-bigay ng first-hand experience on the new Honda Jazz, pero based on the reviews in the net, how does the new Jazz compare with the current model Vios and Yaris?

Engine, Fuel-Consumption?
Interior?
Exterior?
Safety?
Spaciousness?
Features?
Maintenance? (around how much ba yung regular maintenance costs for the 3 cars?)

[Gen. Miting]

I just found out that the 2nd Gen Toyota Vios is very ideal for LPG conversion according to my taxi owner friend (unlike the first gen, parang mahina daw kaha). so expect, na this will be the apple of the eye of taxi operators in the future.

the yaris has some problems daw in airconditioning accdg. sa yaris thread. mahirap daw palamigin ang car.

[skylove]

i'm planning on getting the new honda jazz, too.. i'd appreciate any feedbacks here as well if you got any comparisons to offer. thanks!

[marcons]

get the new honda jazz... why? because for me, it's good looking, high resale value, fuel efficient and the feeling is different if you own a Honda in this country... not to mention how fast the car is in its class...

anyway, these are just my opinions...

[nurse_corrupted]

Get the new Honda Jazz

Wala naman problema ang aircon ng Yaris.

[tidus1203]

Kailangan pa ba itanong yan? Of course Honda Jazz. The Yaris was blown off the waters with this new Jazz. Forget the Vios. The only reason you would get a Yaris or a Vios is budget, besides that Jazz panalo in everything

[projector]

toyota vios for me mas matipid s maintenance. mura parts and labor
s honda sobra mahal natry ko na sa honda sir ko

[niky]

toyota vios for me mas matipid s maintenance. mura parts and labor
s honda sobra mahal natry ko na sa honda sir ko

Considering the SiR is a compact-class sportscar that was only sold here in limited numbers, and which had a very expensive engine inside of it (Honda had to pull off amazing feats of cost-cutting to keep the price low... if they hadn't, the SiR would have cost over 100,000 pesos more than it did) and the Vios is a subcompact economy car, the comparison just doesn't make sense.

Maintaining [b]any[/ b] compact car costs more than maintaining a subcompact car... and maintaining a thinly disguised sportscar costs even more than that.

Current Honda casa pricing is not categorically more expensive than Toyota casa pricing... though both charge waaaay too much for the accessories they sell.

[paolorenzo]

While the Jazz is still giving me sleepless nights, maintenance costs is a major deterrent for me. I suspect it may need to be (almost) exclusively maintained in the CASA.

Sparkplug replacement for example... the Jazz engine compartment has limited space, and other opposite side of the engine (the one opposite the hood opening) is where the plugs are. To replace, I was told by Honda Pasig Service that the windshield assembly (where the wipers are), have to be removed, to reach the hidden side of the engine. While they say that they put in iridiums which are good for 100k kms, it worries me that I may be at the mercy of the casa for the lifetime of the car.

Honda fluids are also known to be proprietary. Maybe we can use our preferred RP or Motul engine oil later on, but all else may have to be sourced from Honda.

Anyway, mas matipid pa rin siguro ang Toyota maintenance, over Honda. I think the Vios and Yaris can already be serviced by some reputable shops, outside of Toyota.

I may be wrong here, and I would be glad to be wrong. All I need is some insight that maintenance costs on the Jazz is reasonable.

[niky]

When Honda makes you use synthetic, they give you the choice of a 10,000 kilometer service interval. Which matters a lot, because most of the cost of service is in the cost of labor, where the dealership makes the most of its money.

And who's to say that Toyotas would be any easier to service? The sparkplugs on the Vios engine are still underneath a plastic cover underneath the air-filter... they're not that much easier to change.

And at least the new Jazz 1.3 doesn't have eight spark-plugs anymore... or a CVT which requires specialized (and expensive) CVT-specific transmission fluid.

[marcons]

it's true, honda parts are more expensive than toyota parts because toyota have a lot of replacement or after market parts compared to honda. anyway, try to compare all the features of the 3 cars, regardless of honda being the prestigious.

about the maintenance cost, babawi ka on the resale value...

btw, 90% of taxi cabs in cagayan de oro city are toyota altis, around 30 units of the altis are the 2008 models. i asked the driver why the taxi operators didn't use Vios as taxi cabs which is cheaper than altis. (PM me nalang if you want to know the answer of the driver). i don't want to create conflicts here. ;)

[paolorenzo]

When Honda makes you use synthetic, they give you the choice of a 10,000 kilometer service interval. Which matters a lot, because most of the cost of service is in the cost of labor, where the dealership makes the most of its money.

And who's to say that Toyotas would be any easier to service? The sparkplugs on the Vios engine are still underneath a plastic cover underneath the air-filter... they're not that much easier to change.

And at least the new Jazz 1.3 doesn't have eight spark-plugs anymore... or a CVT which requires specialized (and expensive) CVT-specific transmission fluid.

touché Niky.

I just like the idea that my car can be serviced by Tsikot white-listed shops (e.g. Speedyfix, Cruvens, Mang Mario, etc.), which may not be likely with the new Jazz.

On the plus side of Honda, their service is far better than Toyota (comparing my experience with my old 1st gen City, serviced by Honda Libis-Pasig, and my current Revo, serviced by Toyota Makati).

[ram_dlsu]

Hi, we're planning to buy the all-new 1.5 Honda Jazz soon. Had a discussion with a relative awhile ago and she was convincing us to get a different car. Didn't have second thoughts naman kasi decided na kami ng wife ko. Hehe.

I know wala pa malamang makakapag-bigay ng first-hand experience on the new Honda Jazz, pero based on the reviews in the net, how does the new Jazz compare with the current model Vios and Yaris?

Engine, Fuel-Consumption?
Interior?
Exterior?
Safety?
Spaciousness?
Features?
Maintenance? (around how much ba yung regular maintenance costs for the 3 cars?)

Hey!

I was in a similar situation as you earlier this year. Choosing between these cars (Jazz, Yaris, Vios and Fiesta). I eventually ended up with the 1.5 Jazz and did not regret at all even i had to wait 5 months due to the Post-Earthquake supply problem Honda faced. so let me share my opinions:

Engine, Fuel-Consumption? This is very relative. a 1.5 jazz n 1.5 vios/yaris would probably consume more or less the same. I'll give you an idea how much FC my 1.5 JAzz is. On long trips on highways. I can get 10-13Km/L easy. However for city traffic (stop go stop go) and add in idle situations like parking or stoplights, I get between 6 - 7Km/ L
Interior? Forget the yaris. Vios 1.5G has a nicer interior compared to a Jazz if u ask me. but i dont like the central odometer. not my thing.
Exterior? Hands down 1.5V Jazz. You know why? The bodykit the current 1.5 Jazz has is the same bodykit on the RS Version in Japan. This was a great move by Honda. Research in youtube. you'd want one i'm sure. Just too ***y
Safety? I'd place them all the same. since all have airbags, abs etc.
Spaciousness? this goes to Jazz as well. fold the rear seats, it can swallow 3 balikbayan boxes, none of the competition can do this. Yaris, Vios , Fiesta, Mazda2 or Accent. For me, if I can have the option to carry a lot of things why not take it right? you neverr know when a balikbayan will arrive or such. This was one of the things that sealed the deal for me.
Features? Same. they all have usb etc. for features Fiesta wins due to the voice control n bluetooth.
Maintenance? (around how much ba yung regular maintenance costs for the 3 cars?) If casa ka lang relatively the same. but if sa labas na mas mura i-maintain ung Toyota.

Another advantage of the Jazz aside from the Space, is the high resale value, and not being common. Vios are everywhere (testament to their reliability) but you lack uniqueness and exclusivity. As for the Yaris its an old model, a new model might be released next year. I've seen pictures and it looks good, very promising.

Another down side for the Jazz is there might be a long line for the 1.5 model especially now that the thai plant is under water. Might take a few months for your ride to arrive. Just coordinate with your dealer and ask for a no B.S. estimate on the arrival date.

Lastly, Don't just rely on what people say. Test Drive all your options before you buy. Good luck!

[ram_dlsu]

peejabi,

Just something to maybe convince you to get the jazz

[renzo_d10]

I'll give you an idea how much FC my 1.5 JAzz is. On long trips on highways. I can get 10-13Km/L easy. However for city traffic (stop go stop go) and add in idle situations like parking or stoplights, I get between 6 - 7Km/ L

Huh? Bakit ang baba? My 1.8L FD breaches 9km/L on city. And around 13-14km/L highway driving?

Or wala ka pa lang 1000kms?