All New 4X2 A/T Diesel: Ranger or D-Max ?

[RGM]

Choosing between these two, parehas 4x2 A/T diesel, black ang kukunin ko and I plan to change the chrome grills to black, rims din papalitan ko. Help me make up my mind

Ford Ranger or Isuzu D-max

How woud you rate them (1-10) on the following?

Looks
Fuel Efficiency
Power
After-Sales

[niky]

Looks - Ranger - 9 / D-Max - 8
Fuel Efficiency - Same - 9
Power - Ranger - 8 / D-Max -7
After-Sales - Depends, really, on the dealership.

[Walter]

Get the Ranger.

[dct]

add ko lang

comfort - ranger

[RGM]

Looks - Ranger - 9 / D-Max - 8
Fuel Efficiency - Same - 9
Power - Ranger - 8 / D-Max -7
After-Sales - Depends, really, on the dealership.

Sir kahit 3.0 yung D-Max mas may power yun Ranger na 2.2?

[ACarEnthusiast]

Dmax if you want better before and after sales service. Most Ford dealers nowadays can give you a harder time getting the Ranger because its sought after.

I do agree the Ranger is more handsome but, in the long run the Isuzu will last longer than the Ranger. Help me out here sir D_Mac.

[vvti2.0]

Isuzu engine will last longer, no question about that. Pero kung gaano mo katagal gusto i-keep yung sasakyan, another question ulit yan.

Yung pang ilalim lang ng isuzu ata ang mahina sa kanya, pero sabi nga ng mga buy and sell, mura lang naman palitan.

[3GEMS]

ano ba reason ng izuzu bakit hindi sila nagpalit ng makina sa ph model ng dmax?
with same old engine sa dmax only in the philippines, pinagloloko na ata tayo ng izuzu then biblhin niyo parin product nila huhuhu...

[samleggy]

ano ba reason ng izuzu bakit hindi sila nagpalit ng makina sa ph model ng dmax?
with same old engine sa dmax only in the philippines, pinagloloko na ata tayo ng izuzu then biblhin niyo parin product nila huhuhu...

alam kasi ng isuzu na kinagisnan na ng mga tao yan nakasanayan na matibay kaya kahit hindi palitan ng mas bago ang makina e ok lang sa kanila lalo na yung mga buyer na may edad na isuzu talaga choice nila. pero talaga naman matibay at maasahan.

[oliver1013]

Kung ang habol mo pangmatagalan lang, as in tipong dekada...isuzu ka na.

Other consderations like pogi, ride, safety etc lamang na ford.

[Walter]

A Ranger will also last as long as a D-Max. It all depends on how a vehicle is maintained.

[lowslowbenz]

IMHO, pick-ups should have large displacement engines since they're built for cargo and hauling of heavy loads (within capacity).

For a wide bodied p-up like the Ranger, a 2.2 litre engine is just too puny. Yeah, I know ... its fast and looks very macho.

But that is today. How about 5 to 10 years from now?

[niky]

Sir kahit 3.0 yung D-Max mas may power yun Ranger na 2.2?

Yup.

ano ba reason ng izuzu bakit hindi sila nagpalit ng makina sa ph model ng dmax?
with same old engine sa dmax only in the philippines, pinagloloko na ata tayo ng izuzu then biblhin niyo parin product nila huhuhu...

Customer support. Fuel issues. Lots of trucks with new engines have issues with our ****ty fuel. If you're lucky, it's just clogged EGR or SCV issues, which aren't too expensive, and which affect ALL the Japanese pick-ups. (heck, Isuzu also had EGR issues with early D-Max units) If you're unlucky, you get clogged fuel filters, busted fuel pumps and fuel injector problems, which cost $$$$$$$$$ to fix.

[12vdc]

TS, try to list vis-a-vis the features of both trucks for you to compare the technical attributes. I think both pickups are low-rider with axle over leaves rear suspension?

For the test drive, see w/c truck has the better low-end grunt. You could test this by taking-off at 2nd gear and see w/c engine stalls easily.

Keep in mind that no pickup is perfect. Choosing is like falling in love, you pick what your heart tells you then live with its flaws.

[RGM]

Thanks for all your replies, will test drive both units this weekend then hopefully I could decide na hehe

[leodawesome]

If you don't have easy access to euro 4 diesels (provinces), better get the D-Max.

[rac98]

If it will be used primarily for hauling heavy stuff or you will use it as a workhorse most of the time, get the dmax. If not, ranger is my choice.

[victorevolution]

IMHO, pick-ups should have large displacement engines since they're built for cargo and hauling of heavy loads (within capacity).

For a wide bodied p-up like the Ranger, a 2.2 litre engine is just too puny. Yeah, I know ... its fast and looks very macho.

But that is today. How about 5 to 10 years from now?

huh! what the hell are you talking about???? 2 word for you lolo "research development" your statement might be true during the late 1900's-1980's but this is 2014.

a modern engine today could produce more horsepower and torque with a very little engine displacement.

check the post and comments of niky and kindly read the specs of both crewcab

[3GEMS]

Yup.



Customer support. Fuel issues. Lots of trucks with new engines have issues with our ****ty fuel. If you're lucky, it's just clogged EGR or SCV issues, which aren't too expensive, and which affect ALL the Japanese pick-ups. (heck, Isuzu also had EGR issues with early D-Max units) If you're unlucky, you get clogged fuel filters, busted fuel pumps and fuel injector problems, which cost $$$$$$$$$ to fix.

so boss nicky nag ka issue din sa EGR yung previous model ng dmax nung bago labas sa pinas and may solution naman agad izuzu, bakit hindi nila dalhin bagong engine nila at e modified para maging euro 2 compliant....
Wala lang parang hindi tayo priority ng izuzu... Para bang "okay na sa inyo yang luma, mga hampas lupa"... Bitter hehe....


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[jut703]

huh! what the hell are you talking about???? 2 word for you lolo "research development" your statement might be true during the late 1900's-1980's but this is 2014.

a modern engine today could produce more horsepower and torque with a very little engine displacement.

check the post and comments of niky and kindly read the specs of both crewcab

Nadrive mo na ba yung Ranger? As a Ranger owner, I agree with what Dr. D says na mahina ang low-end torque ng Ranger. Because of its turbo lag, the Ranger is lifeless under 1.5k rpm. Our old L200 has more torque than it when under 1500 rpm. While the latter can start in 2nd gear on an incline even on full load, you'd have to shift to first with the Ranger or ride the clutch to keep the revs up.

The 3.0 Dmax has less lag at low rpms from my experience. I've only driven the previous gen but same engine lang so it should be just as good if not better for the new one.

That said, the Ranger blows the Dmax out of the water once it gets into its powerband (1800-3500 rpm).

If you don't have easy access to euro 4 diesels (provinces), better get the D-Max.

I am based in the province and so far my Ranger has no problem with provincial fuel. The fuel that we sell in the province is the exact same fuel in Manila. Both come from the same refinery by barge and are stored in depots that are built to the same specs as Pandacan.