800k budget (vios/mazda2/lancer gls/city)

[junerski]

my friend asked me to help him buy his first car
800k budget (hindi pwede lumagpas)

pasok sa 800k (dapat automatic)

1. toyota vios 1.3 E a/t 720k
2. mazda 2 r (sedan) 781k
3. honda city 1.3s 771k
4. mitsubishi lancer gls cvt 745k

regardless of features, engine displacement,vehicle size, comfort etc., ano pinaka ok dun sa 4 with respect to aftersales service? pms cost/parts availability/reliability? longterm ownership kasi. thanks thanks

[renzo_d10]

Top pick, city. Then the vios & mazda 2 comes next. The lancer falls on the last place.

pms cost - Vios.
parts availability - Vios.
reliability - City & Vios.

The reason why the vios only came second is because of it's looks. The taillight looks gay ( no offense ) ... the grille looks cheap. Admittedly, the pre-MMC/facelift vios look better than what is it right now. ;)

[jetrone]

Vios > City > Mazda > Lancer

based on your criteria

regardless of features, engine displacement,vehicle size, comfort etc., ano pinaka ok dun sa 4 with respect to aftersales service? pms cost/parts availability/reliability? longterm ownership kasi.

The new metal grille in front of the Vios looks horrible.

I would highly suggest getting the City.

[Densker]

my friend asked me to help him buy his first car
800k budget (hindi pwede lumagpas)

pasok sa 800k (dapat automatic)

1. toyota vios 1.3 E a/t 720k
2. mazda 2 r (sedan) 781k
3. honda city 1.3s 771k
4. mitsubishi lancer gls cvt 745k

regardless of features, engine displacement,vehicle size, comfort etc., ano pinaka ok dun sa 4 with respect to aftersales service? pms cost/parts availability/reliability? longterm ownership kasi. thanks thanks

1. toyota vios 1.3 E a/t 720k - 1st place.
2. mazda 2 r (sedan) 781k - 4th
3. honda city 1.3s 771k - 2nd
4. mitsubishi lancer gls cvt 745k - 3rd

[impulzz]

1. toyota vios 1.3 E a/t 720k - 1st place.
2. mazda 2 r (sedan) 781k - 4th
3. honda city 1.3s 771k - 2nd
4. mitsubishi lancer gls cvt 745k - 3rd

the lancer GLS CVT, even if it's older model cedia body, has 1.6 engine and bigger body. after discounts the price goes down to 698k as per sir GH's posts here http://tsikot.yehey.com/forums/showt...t=74281&page=8

[jubs00]

I'd pick the city din (better looking imo and the ride comfort is good). Next would be the vios, 3rd lancer and 4th choice is the Mazda2.

[aligonzales]

You might want to consider Ford Fiesta 1.6L Trend A/T P766K

[edricdude]

I'd go for the Lancer EX, dahil sa porma lang. lol! pero kung papipiliin mo ako practicality and all, I'd go for the honda City, which btw looks really good in white. and they say FC is good too so that's a plus. and syempre honda yan. 2nd pick would be the Mitsu, rally blood eh. paddle shift din just like the city. then the mazda 2 then vios.

[p_borj]

I'd go for the Lancer EX, dahil sa porma lang. lol! pero kung papipiliin mo ako practicality and all, I'd go for the honda City, which btw looks really good in white. and they say FC is good too so that's a plus. and syempre honda yan. 2nd pick would be the Mitsu, rally blood eh. paddle shift din just like the city. then the mazda 2 then vios.

old body lang ang Lancer na tinutukoy ni TS. lagpas 800k din ang lowest variant ng Lancer EX na GLX.

[niky]

my friend asked me to help him buy his first car
800k budget (hindi pwede lumagpas)

pasok sa 800k (dapat automatic)

1. toyota vios 1.3 E a/t 720k
2. mazda 2 r (sedan) 781k
3. honda city 1.3s 771k
4. mitsubishi lancer gls cvt 745k

regardless of features, engine displacement,vehicle size, comfort etc., ano pinaka ok dun sa 4 with respect to aftersales service? pms cost/parts availability/reliability? longterm ownership kasi. thanks thanks

Do they have an automatic Mazda2 Sedan? AFAIK, the Mazda2 Sedan only comes in 1.5 AT.

1. The Toyota Vios 1.3 E AT is a decent car if all you're looking for is point A to point B driving, and the 1.3 and 4-speed AT get the job done, if nothing else. Otherwise... at 720k, the same price as the Mazda2 sedan, you're getting a crummier interior, much less trunk space (much, much less... and no rear seat pass-through, to boot), worse dynamics, a flintier ride and cheap seats. It has about 10 millimeters more knee room in the back seats, a big deal if you wear knee pads, I suppose.

2. The Mazda2R hatchback is a wonderful car. Kind of bare for the price compared to the Fiesta, but about the only car in the class even remotely close to the Hondas in terms of interior quality. Decently roomy and much fun to drive (hell, much more fun than some sports cars). If there is a Mazda2 1.5 Sedan with an AT, that would be great. Most responsive to drive of the group with the best transmission.

3. The Honda City... best room, best materials, seats only so-so in terms of comfort. But expensive. Quite. The 1.3 is absolutely gutless when matched with the 5-speed AT, so I suppose you're asking about the 1.5. The 1.5 with the 5-speed is perfect for most uses and not much worse in terms of economy... the 1.3 is overworked by the long gears and heavy body and returns fuel economy similar to 1.5s.

4. The Lancer GLS is old. You won't quite get the same knee room or headroom as the newer subcompacts, but it'll have them beat on elbow room when sitting people three across.

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The Fiesta Trend PS Sedan comes in at under 800k. The transmission is quirky, but it's got lots of power, fuel economy is similar to the 1.5 ATs (apparently, from reading the Fiesta threads... and, come on guys... the only 1.5 ATs in this class that were any good were the Honda CVTs, and those are gone. Finis. Kaput.), handling is better than the Jazz or even the Mazda2 (though the Mazda2 has better steering) and it's the most loaded. Trunk space is a very close second to the Honda City and interior space is actually slightly better than the Vios. Also mimics Honda's 10,000 km service interval, with cheaper servicing costs, supposedly.

Only big deal for the Fiesta, for me, is the interior plastics. A big letdown... but still better than the 1.3 Vios.

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Oh... last word. These new small cars with automatics really aren't that fuel efficient in traffic. So you may think you're saving gas by going for a 1.3 AT, but you're just setting yourself up for frustration. Might as well stump up for a 1.5 AT if you really need a slushbox. Otherwise, stick to a manual transmission.

[kapitan88]

Do they have an automatic Mazda2 Sedan? AFAIK, the Mazda2 Sedan only comes in 1.5 AT.

Oh... last word. These new small cars with automatics really aren't that fuel efficient in traffic. So you may think you're saving gas by going for a 1.3 AT, but you're just setting yourself up for frustration. Might as well stump up for a 1.5 AT if you really need a slushbox. Otherwise, stick to a manual transmission.

care to explain this chief? given na malakas sa gas ang AT pag heavy traffic, but how can you compare it with 1.5? diba kung malakas ang 1.3 sa traffic, MAS malakas din ang 1.5 in same situation?

am also eyeing 1.3E AT sana, primarily sa pagiging fuel efficient nya, may data ba available na comparisson ng fuel consumption ng 1.3 at 1.5, both AT.

Still cant decide between fiesta 1.6 and vios 1.3 (both being AT) gano kaya kabigat ang difference sa fuel consumption of the 2 kung cavite-makati route.

[niky]

care to explain this chief? given na malakas sa gas ang AT pag heavy traffic, but how can you compare it with 1.5? diba kung malakas ang 1.3 sa traffic, MAS malakas din ang 1.5 in same situation?

am also eyeing 1.3E AT sana, primarily sa pagiging fuel efficient nya, may data ba available na comparisson ng fuel consumption ng 1.3 at 1.5, both AT.

Still cant decide between fiesta 1.6 and vios 1.3 (both being AT) gano kaya kabigat ang difference sa fuel consumption of the 2 kung cavite-makati route.

Have test driven a number of 1.1 to 1.3 liter ATs, as well as some 1.4s, but fuel economy was not any better than 1.5s that we've also tested. Torque-converter equipped automatics really suck the power out of small engines. The only time I've seen really exceptional fuel economy out of an automatic 1.3 is with the old 1.3 iDSi Jazz/City cars equipped with a dry-clutch CVT.

[Verbl Kint]

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