800k budget (vios/mazda2/lancer gls/city)

[junerski]

my friend asked me to help him buy his first car
800k budget (hindi pwede lumagpas)

pasok sa 800k (dapat automatic)

1. toyota vios 1.3 E a/t 720k
2. mazda 2 r (sedan) 781k
3. honda city 1.3s 771k
4. mitsubishi lancer gls cvt 745k

regardless of features, engine displacement,vehicle size, comfort etc., ano pinaka ok dun sa 4 with respect to aftersales service? pms cost/parts availability/reliability? longterm ownership kasi. thanks thanks

[renzo_d10]

Top pick, city. Then the vios & mazda 2 comes next. The lancer falls on the last place.

pms cost - Vios.
parts availability - Vios.
reliability - City & Vios.

The reason why the vios only came second is because of it's looks. The taillight looks gay ( no offense ) ... the grille looks cheap. Admittedly, the pre-MMC/facelift vios look better than what is it right now. ;)

[jetrone]

Vios > City > Mazda > Lancer

based on your criteria

regardless of features, engine displacement,vehicle size, comfort etc., ano pinaka ok dun sa 4 with respect to aftersales service? pms cost/parts availability/reliability? longterm ownership kasi.

The new metal grille in front of the Vios looks horrible.

I would highly suggest getting the City.

[Densker]

my friend asked me to help him buy his first car
800k budget (hindi pwede lumagpas)

pasok sa 800k (dapat automatic)

1. toyota vios 1.3 E a/t 720k
2. mazda 2 r (sedan) 781k
3. honda city 1.3s 771k
4. mitsubishi lancer gls cvt 745k

regardless of features, engine displacement,vehicle size, comfort etc., ano pinaka ok dun sa 4 with respect to aftersales service? pms cost/parts availability/reliability? longterm ownership kasi. thanks thanks

1. toyota vios 1.3 E a/t 720k - 1st place.
2. mazda 2 r (sedan) 781k - 4th
3. honda city 1.3s 771k - 2nd
4. mitsubishi lancer gls cvt 745k - 3rd

[impulzz]

1. toyota vios 1.3 E a/t 720k - 1st place.
2. mazda 2 r (sedan) 781k - 4th
3. honda city 1.3s 771k - 2nd
4. mitsubishi lancer gls cvt 745k - 3rd

the lancer GLS CVT, even if it's older model cedia body, has 1.6 engine and bigger body. after discounts the price goes down to 698k as per sir GH's posts here http://tsikot.yehey.com/forums/showt...t=74281&page=8

[jubs00]

I'd pick the city din (better looking imo and the ride comfort is good). Next would be the vios, 3rd lancer and 4th choice is the Mazda2.

[aligonzales]

You might want to consider Ford Fiesta 1.6L Trend A/T P766K

[edricdude]

I'd go for the Lancer EX, dahil sa porma lang. lol! pero kung papipiliin mo ako practicality and all, I'd go for the honda City, which btw looks really good in white. and they say FC is good too so that's a plus. and syempre honda yan. 2nd pick would be the Mitsu, rally blood eh. paddle shift din just like the city. then the mazda 2 then vios.

[p_borj]

I'd go for the Lancer EX, dahil sa porma lang. lol! pero kung papipiliin mo ako practicality and all, I'd go for the honda City, which btw looks really good in white. and they say FC is good too so that's a plus. and syempre honda yan. 2nd pick would be the Mitsu, rally blood eh. paddle shift din just like the city. then the mazda 2 then vios.

old body lang ang Lancer na tinutukoy ni TS. lagpas 800k din ang lowest variant ng Lancer EX na GLX.

[niky]

my friend asked me to help him buy his first car
800k budget (hindi pwede lumagpas)

pasok sa 800k (dapat automatic)

1. toyota vios 1.3 E a/t 720k
2. mazda 2 r (sedan) 781k
3. honda city 1.3s 771k
4. mitsubishi lancer gls cvt 745k

regardless of features, engine displacement,vehicle size, comfort etc., ano pinaka ok dun sa 4 with respect to aftersales service? pms cost/parts availability/reliability? longterm ownership kasi. thanks thanks

Do they have an automatic Mazda2 Sedan? AFAIK, the Mazda2 Sedan only comes in 1.5 AT.

1. The Toyota Vios 1.3 E AT is a decent car if all you're looking for is point A to point B driving, and the 1.3 and 4-speed AT get the job done, if nothing else. Otherwise... at 720k, the same price as the Mazda2 sedan, you're getting a crummier interior, much less trunk space (much, much less... and no rear seat pass-through, to boot), worse dynamics, a flintier ride and cheap seats. It has about 10 millimeters more knee room in the back seats, a big deal if you wear knee pads, I suppose.

2. The Mazda2R hatchback is a wonderful car. Kind of bare for the price compared to the Fiesta, but about the only car in the class even remotely close to the Hondas in terms of interior quality. Decently roomy and much fun to drive (hell, much more fun than some sports cars). If there is a Mazda2 1.5 Sedan with an AT, that would be great. Most responsive to drive of the group with the best transmission.

3. The Honda City... best room, best materials, seats only so-so in terms of comfort. But expensive. Quite. The 1.3 is absolutely gutless when matched with the 5-speed AT, so I suppose you're asking about the 1.5. The 1.5 with the 5-speed is perfect for most uses and not much worse in terms of economy... the 1.3 is overworked by the long gears and heavy body and returns fuel economy similar to 1.5s.

4. The Lancer GLS is old. You won't quite get the same knee room or headroom as the newer subcompacts, but it'll have them beat on elbow room when sitting people three across.

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The Fiesta Trend PS Sedan comes in at under 800k. The transmission is quirky, but it's got lots of power, fuel economy is similar to the 1.5 ATs (apparently, from reading the Fiesta threads... and, come on guys... the only 1.5 ATs in this class that were any good were the Honda CVTs, and those are gone. Finis. Kaput.), handling is better than the Jazz or even the Mazda2 (though the Mazda2 has better steering) and it's the most loaded. Trunk space is a very close second to the Honda City and interior space is actually slightly better than the Vios. Also mimics Honda's 10,000 km service interval, with cheaper servicing costs, supposedly.

Only big deal for the Fiesta, for me, is the interior plastics. A big letdown... but still better than the 1.3 Vios.

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Oh... last word. These new small cars with automatics really aren't that fuel efficient in traffic. So you may think you're saving gas by going for a 1.3 AT, but you're just setting yourself up for frustration. Might as well stump up for a 1.5 AT if you really need a slushbox. Otherwise, stick to a manual transmission.

[sm2by]

How about the 2011 Hyundai Accent it will be launched tomorow Dec 2, 2010

The price most likely below 800k for the 1.6 A/T. Compared to the rest a 1.6L engine and a small Lightweight body will definitely yield best power to weight ratio in it's class

Photos from sir SG:

[junerski]

thanks for the inputs... mukang narrowed down na sa vios and city ang pagpipilian...

i have nothing against the other suggestions like the fiesta and upcoming accent... medyo alangan lang ako sa bagong labas na model na sasakyan... first car kasi ng friend ko and pang-long term ownership ang balak niya

baka medyo mahirapan sa aftersales service for the ford and newly launched accent.(correct me if im wrong)

thanks again

[jetrone]

Sir niky for another epic write up. :thumbup:

[a9828]

my take:

1. toyota vios 1.3 E a/t 720k - practical buy, some say malakas sa gas yung 1.3 a/t

2. mazda 2 r (sedan) 781k - cramped space, not sure about gas consumption

3. honda city 1.3s 771k - probably the best buy long-term (less maintenance), hard to get discount, very expensive for 1.3 engine

4. mitsubishi lancer gls cvt 745k - old, discounted at 698k


other things to consider: add around 50k for lto, insurance, etc

since first car naman, i suggest to get a car that's easy to maintain. eventually, you'll want a bigger, nicer car so just save your money for this. first car = bump car. 1.3 engines are really slow if you bring it out of town so best to go 1.5. pero kung city use lang talaga, 1.3 is really the way to go.

personally, i just got a lancer gls to replace a 1.3 honda jazz. i also had the same options in mind but settled for the lancer due mainly to price and features vs cost. total out = 698k (got all other costs for free). free pms for 1k and 5k. comprehensive insurance to be paid in 3mos. cheaper maintenance too vs mazda/honda. save the remaining money for gas (since 1.6 engine). hindi pa takaw tingin sa mga bukas kotse.

best still to test drive and go with what you really want but make sure to think about total cost of ownership.

[meledson]

Vios or city. any of these 2 will be a good buy for the budget.

[jimnyeatworld]

kung ako tatanungin mo sa 800K budget

1. Jimny
2. Jazz
3. City
4. Coolbear

[kokey]

test drive mo silang lahat. ang original na pinagpipilian ko before i decided to get my m2 ay vios & lancer gls, ended up buying the m2 after the test drive. zoom zoom. hanep ang steering response ng m2 plus konti lang m2 sa daan.

[p_borj]

test drive mo silang lahat. ang original na pinagpipilian ko before i decided to get my m2 ay vios & lancer gls, ended up buying the m2 after the test drive. zoom zoom. hanep ang steering response ng m2 plus konti lang m2 sa daan.

ito ang tamang gawin. test drive mo silang lahat. meron kasi yung pagkaupo mo at minaneho mo na, parang "feel" mo kaagad yung sasakyan kahit hindi mo siya gaanong trip nung una.

[dale323]

test drive mo silang lahat.

+ 1 ako dito. sa list mo, ang hindi ko lang natest drive is yung mazda 2 at puro m/t ang choices ko. I ended up buying Lancer. this was also the last car I tested during that time. :D

[anonemus]

* niky --

* TS -- test drive mo nga lahat. Also, make your friend consider the other add-on costs like accessories, insurance, etc. might as well check out the dealer's after-sales support reputation where he intends to buy his first car