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    #21
    Quote Originally Posted by bugsmobile View Post
    If you would have a budget of 750k, which of the following second hand cars would you get? Pros & cons?

    1. Mitsubishi Xpander
    2. Toyota Rav 4
    3. Honda HR-V

    The Rav 4 & the HR-V are older (2015-2016) thus units have bigger mileage as opposed to the Xpander which is newer (2019) & lesser mileage ofcourse.
    Vote goes to Rav 4 for the following reasons:

    1. No CVT
    2. Bigger engine
    3. "LEGENDARY" Toyota reliability... daw

    Expect parts to be more expensive and harder to find though since the Rav 4 is not as popular as other Toyota models.

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    #22
    bugsy,

    dagdagan mo pa mag jimny ka. Iyan na tumalo sa porma ng coolray at juke. Or maganda yung hatchback ng honda city na ultimo upuan ng driver pwede iflatten.

    Pero naliliitan ako sa gulong ng jimny.

    sayang pera sa 750thou tapos bili ka rav4!!!! Ang lakas makatito nyan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kagalingan View Post
    bugsy,

    dagdagan mo pa mag jimny ka. Iyan na tumalo sa porma ng coolray at juke. Or maganda yung hatchback ng honda city na ultimo upuan ng driver pwede iflatten.

    Pero naliliitan ako sa gulong ng jimny.

    sayang pera sa 750thou tapos bili ka rav4!!!! Ang lakas makatito nyan.
    Laughtrip ka talaga. 😂

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    #24
    Quote Originally Posted by hardwang View Post

    Expect parts to be more expensive and harder to find though since the Rav 4 is not as popular as other Toyota models.
    my take on toyota parts purchasing, even for the rav4,

    1. probably not that difficult, as it's a toyota. hey! there's always the casa!
    2. probably competitive pricing, outside the casa.
    3. dahil matibay (again, "daw"), you won't spend your weekends parts-hunting. "when they get fixed, they stay fixed."

    if TS wants to gambol, and is willing to up his price to 816K, as someone already suggested,
    there's the new raize.
    Last edited by dr. d; June 13th, 2022 at 02:16 PM.

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    #25
    Quote Originally Posted by jojopad View Post
    +1 with Egon's recommendation. I'm also shopping around for a 2nd hand Subaru Forester. I plan to use it for my family's car camping trip. The high ground clearance (I think it's 200mm or almosr 8 inch), AWD and excellent visibility are plus factors for me.

    I see a lot of 2nd hand Forester offerings at FB marketplace. 500 to 800k seems to be the usual range. The XTs especially the stock ones are getting rare.
    Ground clearance of a Forester or Outback is at 8.7” or 221mm, similar to the usual PPVs. If getting the XT, better look for the 2017-2018 models which comes stock with steering-adaptive headlights. All AWD Subarus come with X-Mode, a system that will have the car maximize traction for off-road surfaces.

    Assuming you’re a speed junkie - no PPV or CUV or even most compact cars can hold a candle in terms of performance against the Forester XT. It is quick off a sprint (between 7 to 8 seconds in 0 to 100kmh) and it can get you to over 200kmh assuming you have the nerves to drive that fast. Not to mention it can easily crawl in mud, sand, gravel, or lahar without fear of getting stuck.

    Sa mga anti-CVT, di Puwede Subaru or Honda or newer Toyotas. Get something else though don’t settle for those with dinosaur 4-speed ATs.


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    #26
    Quote Originally Posted by kagalingan View Post
    bugsy,

    dagdagan mo pa mag jimny ka. Iyan na tumalo sa porma ng coolray at juke. Or maganda yung hatchback ng honda city na ultimo upuan ng driver pwede iflatten.

    Pero naliliitan ako sa gulong ng jimny.

    sayang pera sa 750thou tapos bili ka rav4!!!! Ang lakas makatito nyan.
    Haha eh tito age na naman talaga ako e hehe.


    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    my take on toyota parts purchasing, even for the rav4,

    1. probably not that difficult, as it's a toyota. hey! there's always the casa!
    2. probably competitive pricing, outside the casa.
    3. dahil matibay (again, "daw"), you won't spend your weekends parts-hunting. "when they get fixed, they stay fixed."

    if TS wants to gambol, and is willing to up his price to 816K, as someone already suggested,
    there's the new raize.
    It's a car plan doc , & I wouldn't want to add na to the allotted budget hehe.

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    #27
    Kung Forester, maganda 2015 pataas para hindi kasama sa valve spring recall. Check din ang AC at suspension bushings, since maaga nasira iyong sa kamag-anak namin. Check kung napalitan ang CVT at diff fluids, check ang 4 sets ng CV boots at joints. Ingat din kung matuloy ang full MVIS para hindi masira ang AWD system.

    Maganda visibility at comfort ng Forester.

    Pero Xpander pa din ako, okay naman experience so far. Iyon lang, mabagal para sa iba since 1.5L at 4AT lang.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bxr monkey View Post
    Kung Forester, maganda 2015 pataas para hindi kasama sa valve spring recall. Check din ang AC at suspension bushings, since maaga nasira iyong sa kamag-anak namin. Check kung napalitan ang CVT at diff fluids, check ang 4 sets ng CV boots at joints. Ingat din kung matuloy ang full MVIS para hindi masira ang AWD system.

    Maganda visibility at comfort ng Forester.

    Pero Xpander pa din ako, okay naman experience so far. Iyon lang, mabagal para sa iba since 1.5L at 4AT lang.
    Got it! Thanks for the advise!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bxr monkey View Post
    Kung Forester, maganda 2015 pataas para hindi kasama sa valve spring recall. Check din ang AC at suspension bushings, since maaga nasira iyong sa kamag-anak namin. Check kung napalitan ang CVT at diff fluids, check ang 4 sets ng CV boots at joints. Ingat din kung matuloy ang full MVIS para hindi masira ang AWD system.

    Maganda visibility at comfort ng Forester.

    Pero Xpander pa din ako, okay naman experience so far. Iyon lang, mabagal para sa iba since 1.5L at 4AT lang.
    I change my front lower arm bushings every 30k km. Mapa orig or replacement, same lifespan. Thank goodness i didn’t have much aircon issues with my XT but I did change the expansion valve and rubber o-rings. Subaru aircon though is not as strong as the one on my Mitsubishi ASX.

    CVTF and gear oil needs to be changed every 40k km. You have the option to do dialysis on the CVTF or just drain&refill. Full dialysis requires around 14L while drain&refill only around 6L. The XT uses a high-torque CVTF which is different from the non-turbo Forester - they are not interchangeable. Gear oil change only needs 1.5L - that covers both front and rear axles.

    The XT also has a bigger front brake disc so it uses a different front brake pad - similar to the WRX. The rear pads is similar to the one used on the Outback. With my driving habits, I change front pads every 30k km. I highly suggest Akebono pads. In my experience, they are better than stock and even Brembos. I had a bad experience using the non-slotted Brembos - it caused my brake piston to stuck up.

    When changing tires, change all 4 tires. Subaru’s AWD system is always active, and thus all 4 tires are simultaneously spinning. The front tires degrades faster due to braking and steering but a regular front-back rotation will keep tire wear even.


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    #30
    How about the CRV? Its on the same level of the RAV4 if not a bit cheaper, have a 4wd option, though not as good as the Subarus.

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    #31
    Quote Originally Posted by bugoys View Post
    How about the CRV? Its on the same level of the RAV4 if not a bit cheaper, have a 4wd option, though not as good as the Subarus.
    Ah hmmm thanks for the suggestion! Will also consider it.

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