Montero Sport GLS or Xpander GLS or CR-V V or Innova E or Terra VE?

[maverickjazzy]

Mga Sir need ko po ang expert advice nyo. I'm planning to buy a new car to supplement my old but reliable Honda Jazz. Below are my requirements/specs:

1. 7 seater -for family use
2. Maximum budget of 1.8M
3. Comfortable
4. Large cargo space and can carry heavy loads
5. Handling/easy to drive
6. Reliable and with no major mechanical/technical issues
7. Design and features (safety,tech,gadgets)

I'll use it as my daily drive going to work and also as cargo hauler (around 600 kilos plus two people) whenever we get supplies for the small business of my wife, from Central Luzon to Manila at least twice a month. My old Jazz is having a rough time whenever we buy supplies from Manila. Also, I haven't experienced driving a larger vehicle like SUV/MPV, mostly sedan lang na-drive ko, so ease of use and comfort is also an importanr consideration baka kasi manibago ako. Thank you po sa response.

[hdj80]

Among those options, the crv is the closest you’ll get to having a sedan like drive and being a “7” seater.

But if people hauling is important you might be better off with the terra, innova or monty.

Innova is the most practical with a 2.8L, toyota reliability, and adequate clearance and good space but if you want that suv look of course monty or terra.

Personally though I’d choose between the Innova and the Montero


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[sirkosero]

Innova for practicality.

But know that the current nodel's achilles heels are the stock tires and shock absorbers.

My 2019 innova with 5k mileage has signs of busted rear shocks

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[GTi]

Mga Sir need ko po ang expert advice nyo. I'm planning to buy a new car to supplement my old but reliable Honda Jazz. Below are my requirements/specs:

1. 7 seater -for family use
2. Maximum budget of 1.8M
3. Comfortable
4. Large cargo space and can carry heavy loads
5. Handling/easy to drive
6. Reliable and with no major mechanical/technical issues
7. Design and features (safety,tech,gadgets)

I'll use it as my daily drive going to work and also as cargo hauler (around 600 kilos plus two people) whenever we get supplies for the small business of my wife, from Central Luzon to Manila at least twice a month. My old Jazz is having a rough time whenever we buy supplies from Manila. Also, I haven't experienced driving a larger vehicle like SUV/MPV, mostly sedan lang na-drive ko, so ease of use and comfort is also an importanr consideration baka kasi manibago ako. Thank you po sa response.

Since carrying heavy loads is a priority, better choices would be the ladder frame options. The Innova is actually the most versatile since it has the shortest hood, with most of its body length allocated for cabin space.

Since you will have lots of savings from your 1.8M, as mentioned you may use it for suspension and wheel/tire upgrades.

An option you may to consider is the base Kia Carnival at 1.995M. Absolutely endless cargo space if you remove the 4th row (which will still leave you with 8 passenger capacity). Since it is designed to carry 11 passengers, payload capacity is not a problem. The 2.2 is also proven worthy across many Hyundai and Kia models in the last ten years and is still one of the most powerful in the market.

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[dr. d]

Mga Sir need ko po ang expert advice nyo. I'm planning to buy a new car to supplement my old but reliable Honda Jazz. Below are my requirements/specs:

1. 7 seater -for family use
2. Maximum budget of 1.8M
3. Comfortable
4. Large cargo space and can carry heavy loads
5. Handling/easy to drive
6. Reliable and with no major mechanical/technical issues
7. Design and features (safety,tech,gadgets)

I'll use it as my daily drive going to work and also as cargo hauler (around 600 kilos plus two people) whenever we get supplies for the small business of my wife, from Central Luzon to Manila at least twice a month. My old Jazz is having a rough time whenever we buy supplies from Manila. Also, I haven't experienced driving a larger vehicle like SUV/MPV, mostly sedan lang na-drive ko, so ease of use and comfort is also an importanr consideration baka kasi manibago ako. Thank you po sa response.

for long trips,
if the last two passengers are small humans or grocery bags, innova is fine.
if they are all adult-sized children or adults, get a breadloaf van.
urvan. hiace. starex.
i have an innova. i used to have a besta van.

[SidCoronel]

Mga Sir need ko po ang expert advice nyo. I'm planning to buy a new car to supplement my old but reliable Honda Jazz. Below are my requirements/specs:

1. 7 seater -for family use
2. Maximum budget of 1.8M
3. Comfortable
4. Large cargo space and can carry heavy loads
5. Handling/easy to drive
6. Reliable and with no major mechanical/technical issues
7. Design and features (safety,tech,gadgets)

I'll use it as my daily drive going to work and also as cargo hauler (around 600 kilos plus two people) whenever we get supplies for the small business of my wife, from Central Luzon to Manila at least twice a month. My old Jazz is having a rough time whenever we buy supplies from Manila. Also, I haven't experienced driving a larger vehicle like SUV/MPV, mostly sedan lang na-drive ko, so ease of use and comfort is also an importanr consideration baka kasi manibago ako. Thank you po sa response.

You cannot have all of these in 1 Car.

Cut it down to max 3...the top 3 "attributes" most important.

Then rank the top 3 according to important as well

[jut703]

Innova if you want the highest practicality and durability at the lowest price. Terra if you can afford to splurge a little.

Both will be ok for hauling cargo. A bit less refined to drive vs a sedan but you'll get used to it. Key difference is that the Innova is an un-s3xy family car, the Terra is a more macho SUV.

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[jmc21420]

Mga Sir need ko po ang expert advice nyo. I'm planning to buy a new car to supplement my old but reliable Honda Jazz. Below are my requirements/specs:

1. 7 seater -for family use
2. Maximum budget of 1.8M
3. Comfortable
4. Large cargo space and can carry heavy loads
5. Handling/easy to drive
6. Reliable and with no major mechanical/technical issues
7. Design and features (safety,tech,gadgets)

I'll use it as my daily drive going to work and also as cargo hauler (around 600 kilos plus two people) whenever we get supplies for the small business of my wife, from Central Luzon to Manila at least twice a month. My old Jazz is having a rough time whenever we buy supplies from Manila. Also, I haven't experienced driving a larger vehicle like SUV/MPV, mostly sedan lang na-drive ko, so ease of use and comfort is also an importanr consideration baka kasi manibago ako. Thank you po sa response.

Give the terra a go. It seems it ticks all the right boxes for you. If you can stretch a VL so much the better.


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[GTi]

If you don't mind driving a manual, I just remembered that the Hiace Commuter Deluxe is just 1.6M... Load all you want! [emoji16]

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[Wave24/7]

The Innova would be ideal for your needs as as a family hauler/business vehicle.

[2 B]

Do you guys think the new Trend variant for the Ford Everest is a good alternative to what OP listed?

[mxmd]

In this order po for me.
1) montero
2) terra
3) CRV
4) innova
5) xpander

[H1Tman]

Mga Sir need ko po ang expert advice nyo. I'm planning to buy a new car to supplement my old but reliable Honda Jazz. Below are my requirements/specs:

1. 7 seater -for family use
2. Maximum budget of 1.8M
3. Comfortable
4. Large cargo space and can carry heavy loads
5. Handling/easy to drive
6. Reliable and with no major mechanical/technical issues
7. Design and features (safety,tech,gadgets)

I'll use it as my daily drive going to work and also as cargo hauler (around 600 kilos plus two people) whenever we get supplies for the small business of my wife, from Central Luzon to Manila at least twice a month. My old Jazz is having a rough time whenever we buy supplies from Manila. Also, I haven't experienced driving a larger vehicle like SUV/MPV, mostly sedan lang na-drive ko, so ease of use and comfort is also an importanr consideration baka kasi manibago ako. Thank you po sa response.

Bro, so what happened in 2008?

[ice15]

of the cars (and budget) you mentioned

1. Montero or Innova G/V (sorry, I find the E too lacking in features)
2. Terra - not really a car I'm looking at right now, but it's big and based on the Navara
3. CR-V - it's the only diesel in Honda's current line-up. I can just imagine issues with parts availability if you plan to keep the car for more than 10 years. 2nd, I think they have a 6-7 year cycle for the CR-V, current gen was released in 2017 (compared to the 9-10 year cycle of the Montero and Innova)
4. Xpander GLS - it's just not in the same category as your other choices

Suggestion: also look at the Fortuner G

[Dr.Kamiya]

Bigat ng 600kg ah!

If you add two passengers that will almost certainly put you over gross vehicle mass in all of those options.

Montero Sport GLX for example is 1935kg curb weight, 2600kg GVM
Say the two passengers are 100kg total, plus 600kg of cargo = 2635kg already.

The Montero, Terra and Innova will probably take it just fine, but the Xpander will likely be just as "hirap" if not more so than your Jazz (less hp plus heavier vehicle).

[dr. d]

600 kg + 2 people = at least 700 kg.
on a regular basis?
get a pick-up, sir.
prioritize.
my 98 centavos' worth.

[Dr.Kamiya]

Problema lang sa pickup is the 7-seater requirement.

IMO the best vehicle that fits OP's needs is a van. Hi-Ace has a genuine 1-ton payload capacity so carrying that 600kg of goods will be well within spec, and it'll carry his 7 passengers easily. Remove or reconfigure na lang ng rear seat when its time for his supply run.



Spec data with weights and capacities:
https://www.toyota.com.au/-/media/to...ta_dec2020.pdf

[17Sphynx17]

600 kg + 2 people = at least 700 kg.
on a regular basis?
get a pick-up, sir.
prioritize.
my 98 centavos' worth.

Load wise, kaya ng Fortuner and Montero yung 1000kgs total payload inside (Cargo and/or Passenger total). And 1.9L ng MUX, alam ko limited to 750kgs max ang payload kasi yun max payload ng Dmax (not the newly launched one). The figure is not a towing load, but yung direct liveload inside the vehicles four wheels and suspension.

No idea for the Terra but because of the more "plush" suspension geometry, same complaint malamang sa Navara which is mas dadapa yung likod mo agad with the load. Whether 1000kgs din siya, I'm not sure lang. But I would say 1k din kaya niya.

So with the Fortuner, ganun din dapat kaya ng Innova given same IMV Platform. But you'd have to check load rating of the stock wheels na lang whether nagexceed ka na sa total nung 4. Frame wise, wala dapat issue.

Anecdotal note: Nagkarga ako sa 2011 Montero ng 20 & 25 bags ng cemento dati (25kgs each per bag) separate instances. ako lang though inside. Di naman dapa yung Montero or hirap but mas evenly distributed din kasi yung mga bags thru the frame up to the back side of the front seats.
Friend put more than more than 1k kgs inside the first gen Fortuner. Confirmed weight is more than 1000kgs kasi dinala niya for an air freight delivery. Dapa na yung likod pero kaya at kinailangan niya lang gawin at that time kasi need madeliver talaga. Siya lang din person inside. But this is not recommended. Kahit siya sinabi emergency lang talaga kaya napilitan siya gawin.

[Egan101]

Yung mga CUV (Forester, CRV) usually nasa 700kg lang yung load capacity. Ganun din towing capacity.

Yung mga medium pickup (Ranger, Hilux), around 1000kg ata yung load capacity. There are instances where people carry more than 1 ton.


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[Dr.Kamiya]

Load wise, kaya ng Fortuner and Montero yung 1000kgs total payload inside (Cargo and/or Passenger total). And 1.9L ng MUX, alam ko limited to 750kgs max ang payload kasi yun max payload ng Dmax (not the newly launched one). The figure is not a towing load, but yung direct liveload inside the vehicles four wheels and suspension.

No idea for the Terra but because of the more "plush" suspension geometry, same complaint malamang sa Navara which is mas dadapa yung likod mo agad with the load. Whether 1000kgs din siya, I'm not sure lang. But I would say 1k din kaya niya.

So with the Fortuner, ganun din dapat kaya ng Innova given same IMV Platform. But you'd have to check load rating of the stock wheels na lang whether nagexceed ka na sa total nung 4. Frame wise, wala dapat issue.

Anecdotal note: Nagkarga ako sa 2011 Montero ng 20 & 25 bags ng cemento dati (25kgs each per bag) separate instances. ako lang though inside. Di naman dapa yung Montero or hirap but mas evenly distributed din kasi yung mga bags thru the frame up to the back side of the front seats.
Friend put more than more than 1k kgs inside the first gen Fortuner. Confirmed weight is more than 1000kgs kasi dinala niya for an air freight delivery. Dapa na yung likod pero kaya at kinailangan niya lang gawin at that time kasi need madeliver talaga. Siya lang din person inside. But this is not recommended. Kahit siya sinabi emergency lang talaga kaya napilitan siya gawin.

That's the point of the GVM. "Kaya" doesn't mean it's safe. I think ok lang to do it in an emergency, but if you're going to be doing it regularly it's better to get a vehicle rated to carry the load to begin with.
From the curb weight to GVM comparison around 700+kg lang ang load capacity ng Montero, despite the Strada being rated for 970kg.