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    Hello! Looking to purchase an SUV that hopefully will last me at least 10 years. The only one that lasted me that long so far is a gas-fed BK pajero. Been checking out the explorer and the prado, but wary of explorer reliability and resale value. If I get the PPV ones, I might have to buy 2 in a span of 10 years or so. I have a 5yr old Monty and maybe it’s just me, but I feel max usage is 2-3 more years.

    Space and comfort are priorities, and as usual reliability because I plan on using it for a long time (fingers crossed).

    Thoughts?

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    If you'll get a ppv, then i suggest to wait for the upcoming 2021 mu-x. It's so much upscale compared to the outgoing model and the updated 4jj3 3.0 engine is big yet frugal.

    If luxury suv, then go for the prado. A bit expensive for its what it is but perfectly sized and still cheaper than the bigger lc although a new model is also already in the horizon which may come out in 2023 locally.

    However, this one is indent-order basis which means at least two or three months of waiting time unless there's a unit available. So do take note of that if this will be your choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTcervan View Post
    If you'll get a ppv, then i suggest to wait for the upcoming 2021 mu-x. It's so much upscale compared to the outgoing model and the updated 4jj3 3.0 engine is big yet frugal.

    If luxury suv, then go for the prado. A bit expensive for its what it is but perfectly sized and still cheaper than the bigger lc although a new model is also already in the horizon which may come out in 2023 locally.

    However, this one is indent-order basis which means at least two or three months of waiting time unless there's a unit available. So do take note of that if this will be your choice.
    Thanks! Not sure I wanna go PPV… and the LC300 seems awesome but just a bit too expensive for me. The Prado has a new model coming out?

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    I find the Prado overpriced compared to the Landcruiser big brother and Fortuner. Locally anyways and especially for the diesel model.

    I would get the All new LC 300 (definitely my number 1 choice) . Even a 2nd hand LC200 should easily last you ten years and more!

    A Nissan Patrol (if you dont mind petrol) or Ford Expedition are also other choices you may consider. Known also for their durability, capability, size and space.







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    Quote Originally Posted by EQAddict View Post
    I find the Prado overpriced compared to the Landcruiser big brother and Fortuner. Locally anyways and especially for the diesel model.

    I would get the All new LC 300 (definitely my number 1 choice) . Even a 2nd hand LC200 should easily last you ten years and more!

    A Nissan Patrol (if you dont mind petrol) or Ford Expedition are also other choices you may consider. Known also for their durability, capability, size and space.







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    Yep, i wonder who will buy a 3.0l 160hp/410nm suv for four million these days. Buti nlng with the hilux/fortuner mid-update naisipan na ni tmpc to upgrade the prado with the same updated modern diesel engine. Ty atsuhiro okamoto-san.

    Although still way overpriced, that 70k increase is not bad at all. Plus six-speeds na and for the keen ones, makikita nilang hindi kasing dami ng lc200 sa kalsada if they are conscious of that. But then again who will buy the diesel if the gas is more powerful between the two. Yung mga palagi sigurong nakatutok sa gas gauge hehehe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTcervan View Post
    Yep, i wonder who will buy a 3.0l 160hp/410nm suv for four million these days. Buti nlng with the hilux/fortuner mid-update naisipan na ni tmpc to upgrade the prado with the same updated modern diesel engine. Ty atsuhiro okamoto-san.

    Although still way overpriced, that 70k increase is not bad at all. Plus six-speeds na and for the keen ones, makikita nilang hindi kasing dami ng lc200 sa kalsada if they are conscious of that. But then again who will buy the diesel if the gas is more powerful between the two. Yung mga palagi sigurong nakatutok sa gas gauge hehehe.
    Nasanay na rin ako with my gas pajero 😄
    And with an 800k difference between the gas and diesel versions of the prado, kahit 10 years with the gas, up ka pa rin 😄

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    Quote Originally Posted by hoover View Post
    Nasanay na rin ako with my gas pajero 😄
    And with an 800k difference between the gas and diesel versions of the prado, kahit 10 years with the gas, up ka pa rin 😄
    Ah edi go ka na sa gas model. Ang advantage lang naman ng diesel ay torque at kung balak mo gamitin daily, syempre matipid siya. In the long run naman, resale value. Kahit 5-year old model mahigit two million pa siya. Di kasi ito kasali dun sa jpepa kaya grabe ang srp niya.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EQAddict View Post
    I find the Prado overpriced compared to the Landcruiser big brother and Fortuner. Locally anyways and especially for the diesel model.

    I would get the All new LC 300 (definitely my number 1 choice) . Even a 2nd hand LC200 should easily last you ten years and more!

    A Nissan Patrol (if you dont mind petrol) or Ford Expedition are also other choices you may consider. Known also for their durability, capability, size and space.

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    I don’t mind petrol, but I’m thinking of retaining a 3.5M budget… looking at preloved units but overall not feeling getting a used LC200. I feel it’s too much money for a used unit, what do you think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hoover View Post
    I don’t mind petrol, but I’m thinking of retaining a 3.5M budget… looking at preloved units but overall not feeling getting a used LC200. I feel it’s too much money for a used unit, what do you think?
    There is a 2019 white expedition for sale with low mileage within your budget. Check the FB marketplace ads. Am sure you can haggle.



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    Quote Originally Posted by EQAddict View Post
    There is a 2019 white expedition for sale with low mileage within your budget. Check the FB marketplace ads. Am sure you can haggle.



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    You prefer the expedition over the LC150? Had an Eddie Bauer before, gas consumption was nuts! Should I expect the same from a prado?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hoover View Post
    You prefer the expedition over the LC150? Had an Eddie Bauer before, gas consumption was nuts! Should I expect the same from a prado?
    10x over. I also have a 2020 expedition. I love it. Guzzler but oh the confort and space is amazing. Business class travel. And very very capable.

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    If going full size, then it is a choice between the LC300 or Expedition or Patrol Royale. Gas or diesel won’t matter that much since buyers of such vehicles do have the money to spend for fuel.

    If going midsize, there are a lot more options. It’s either you go with turbo gas-powered ones (Explorer or CX9 or Voltis), diesel unibody (Santa Fe or Sorento), the Prado J150, or the PPVs.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Egan101 View Post
    If going full size, then it is a choice between the LC300 or Expedition or Patrol Royale. Gas or diesel won’t matter that much since buyers of such vehicles do have the money to spend for fuel.

    If going midsize, there are a lot more options. It’s either you go with turbo gas-powered ones (Explorer or CX9 or Voltis), diesel unibody (Santa Fe or Sorento), the Prado J150, or the PPVs.


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    CX9’s nice also… would you go for it over the explorer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hoover View Post
    CX9’s nice also… would you go for it over the explorer?
    I would still choose the Explorer over the CX9 or Evoltis/Ascent. It is bigger and packs a more powerful engine than the other two. Only advantage of the CX9 is that it drives better.

    The 2021 Explorer is only offered with a 2.3L 4-cylinder turbo engine but packs 304hp/420Nm. More than what you need for a midsize SUV. SRP for the 4x4 model is 2.998M while the 4x2 model is 2.698M.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Egan101 View Post
    I would still choose the Explorer over the CX9 or Evoltis/Ascent. It is bigger and packs a more powerful engine than the other two. Only advantage of the CX9 is that it drives better.

    The 2021 Explorer is only offered with a 2.3L 4-cylinder turbo engine but packs 304hp/420Nm. More than what you need for a midsize SUV. SRP for the 4x4 model is 2.998M while the 4x2 model is 2.698M.

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    I like the explorer too, although even if it’s lower priced than the LC150, resale value over maybe 5 years basically takes up the price difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hoover View Post
    I like the explorer too, although even if it’s lower priced than the LC150, resale value over maybe 5 years basically takes up the price difference.
    You should try test driving both


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    Pero hindi naman daw speed or performance ang priority niya eh, more on...

    Space and comfort are priorities, and as usual reliability because I plan on using it for a long time (fingers crossed).

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTcervan View Post
    Pero hindi naman daw speed or performance ang priority niya eh, more on...



    At its core requirements, you can buy a vehicle that’s much much less than a Prado.

    The Innova will surely address those requirements. Hehehehe


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    Quote Originally Posted by Egan101 View Post
    At its core requirements, you can buy a vehicle that’s much much less than a Prado.

    The Innova will surely address those requirements. Hehehehe


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    Depende na kay op un. Since kasama sa choices niya he'll be judge. Pero hopefully much powerful na ang new model.

    If reliability and after sales service aren't issues, as well as resale value, then big winner na ang new explorer no doubt. Tapos mejo cheap din ang srp.

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