(2020 4x2 AT) Subaru Forester i-S (with EyeSight) vs Montero Sport GT vs Fortuner V

[dplgngr]

So, my original plan was to buy a truck and luckily me and my wife re-computed the budget and with the current low rates being offered I think we will be able to stretch out the budget to afford the chosen SUVs.

Now I'd like your help again in choosing which we SUV/AUV we should get.

Ride Quality - I have only test driven the Forester and I think it should easily be the best ride quality compared to the Montero and Fortuner. I have a scheduled test drive tomorrow for the Montero Sport.
Safety - On paper, Forester still tops the other two.
Space - Without the seating capacity issue, Forester is spacious compared with the other two. But 7-seating capacity is a huge plus.
Reliability & Maintenance Cost - I think this one the Fortuner is the winner, not sure how by much the Montero falls behind. Certainly the Forester is the most costly to maintain and less reliable among the 3 (I think).

Please let me have your inputs.
Thanks!

[mda]

So, my original plan was to buy a truck and luckily me and my wife re-computed the budget and with the current low rates being offered I think we will be able to stretch out the budget to afford the chosen SUVs.

Now I'd like your help again in choosing which we SUV/AUV we should get.

Ride Quality - I have only test driven the Forester and I think it should easily be the best ride quality compared to the Montero and Fortuner. I have a scheduled test drive tomorrow for the Montero Sport.
Safety - On paper, Forester still tops the other two.
Space - Without the seating capacity issue, Forester is spacious compared with the other two. But 7-seating capacity is a huge plus.
Reliability & Maintenance Cost - I think this one the Fortuner is the winner, not sure how by much the Montero falls behind. Certainly the Forester is the most costly to maintain and less reliable among the 3 (I think).

Please let me have your inputs.
Thanks!

Being pickup based, I'd assume the suspension components for the Fort/Montero will absorb more punishment than that of the Forester.

You are right that the Forester will easily ride the best among these choices.

Additional contender: CRV? Test driven one and it drives like a midsize sedan. RAV4? The midspec seems nice din.

[dplgngr]

Being pickup based, I'd assume the suspension components for the Fort/Montero will absorb more punishment than that of the Forester.

You are right that the Forester will easily ride the best among these choices.

Additional contender: CRV? Test driven one and it drives like a midsize sedan. RAV4? The midspec seems nice din.

One of the hassles of owning a car is changing tires, and the CRV takes it to the next level. haha!

On a more serious note, Forester is more capable than CRV and RAV4 hence I did not include them anymore. CRV S Diesel 9AT might be a dark horse but yeah tire change.

[StockEngine]

The montero beats the fortuner with... better ride, more power, full set of airbags, stability control and brake assist. And zix performance support.

[Egan101]

The Forester comes standard as AWD and will drive better than either Fort or Monty. Despite its smaller displacement gas engine, its straight line performance will be about the same as the Monty (better power to weight ratio, better grip).


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[StockEngine]

The Forester comes standard as AWD and will drive better than either Fort or Monty. Despite its smaller displacement gas engine, its straight line performance will be about the same as the Monty (better power to weight ratio, better grip).


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Definitely faster! To depreciate...

[carxynogen]

So, my original plan was to buy a truck and luckily me and my wife re-computed the budget and with the current low rates being offered I think we will be able to stretch out the budget to afford the chosen SUVs.

Now I'd like your help again in choosing which we SUV/AUV we should get.

Ride Quality - I have only test driven the Forester and I think it should easily be the best ride quality compared to the Montero and Fortuner. I have a scheduled test drive tomorrow for the Montero Sport.
Safety - On paper, Forester still tops the other two.
Space - Without the seating capacity issue, Forester is spacious compared with the other two. But 7-seating capacity is a huge plus.
Reliability & Maintenance Cost - I think this one the Fortuner is the winner, not sure how by much the Montero falls behind. Certainly the Forester is the most costly to maintain and less reliable among the 3 (I think).

Please let me have your inputs.
Thanks!

Pwd ma share boss magkano rates nakuha nyo and from what bank?

[mda]

One of the hassles of owning a car is changing tires, and the CRV takes it to the next level. haha!

On a more serious note, Forester is more capable than CRV and RAV4 hence I did not include them anymore. CRV S Diesel 9AT might be a dark horse but yeah tire change.

Not sure I understand what it is about changing tires.

Forester is more 'capable' than the 4x2 RAV and CRV in terms of navigating through mud and stuff.

But I'm guessing the GT 4x2 and the Fortuner V 4x2 will also suffer same as the CRV and RAV.

I'm thinking you're not sure din what your buying priorities are UNLESS when you mention the Montero GT and the Fortuner V you mean the 4x4 variants.

If you're looking at capability -- you should be comparing the 4x4 and AWD variants.

[dplgngr]

The montero beats the fortuner with... better ride, more power, full set of airbags, stability control and brake assist. And zix performance support.

What about zix performance?

The Forester comes standard as AWD and will drive better than either Fort or Monty. Despite its smaller displacement gas engine, its straight line performance will be about the same as the Monty (better power to weight ratio, better grip).
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Kakatapos ko lang mag test drive ng Montero and parang mag-aagree ako sa sinabi mo. So far, sa mga na test drive ko yung Navara talaga ang napaka ganda ng acceleration and shifting.

Pwd ma share boss magkano rates nakuha nyo and from what bank?

For 60 months, 25.8% straight pero kung mag advance ka ng 1month 24.86%. Sabi pwede pa mas lower rate pag nakapag decide na talaga at kausapin nalang ang Account Manager direkta.

Not sure I understand what it is about changing tires.

Forester is more 'capable' than the 4x2 RAV and CRV in terms of navigating through mud and stuff.

But I'm guessing the GT 4x2 and the Fortuner V 4x2 will also suffer same as the CRV and RAV.

I'm thinking you're not sure din what your buying priorities are UNLESS when you mention the Montero GT and the Fortuner V you mean the 4x4 variants.

If you're looking at capability -- you should be comparing the 4x4 and AWD variants.

Getting the spare tire out takes extra effort and steps on a CRV.

I'm only considering 4x2 variants because I'm mostly gonna drive it on the city 80% of the time. Extra 2-seats is a plus for long travels so I could seat 5 adults and 2 children at the back. But then again long drives will just be around 5-10% of the time.

[Egan101]

Kakatapos ko lang mag test drive ng Montero and parang mag-aagree ako sa sinabi mo. So far, sa mga na test drive ko yung Navara talaga ang napaka ganda ng acceleration and shifting.

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I'm only considering 4x2 variants because I'm mostly gonna drive it on the city 80% of the time. Extra 2-seats is a plus for long travels so I could seat 5 adults and 2 children at the back. But then again long drives will just be around 5-10% of the time.

If only Subaru still offers the Forester XT, that Navara will feel sluggish and slow against Subaru's boxy, wolf-in-sheep-clothing compact crossover. Subaru only offer AWD sedans, crossovers, and SUVs. If you want a non-AWD Subaru, your only option is the BRZ.

Subaru will be offering soon the Evoltis locally. This is the same as the USDM Ascent - Subaru's 7-seat, 3-row crossover powered by a 2.4L turbo engine. Subaru might also bring the Outback XT with the same engine as the Ascent. The Ascent and the Outback XT has respectable performance, much like the Forester XT.

Subaru Ascent

Subaru Outback

[BlancNoir]

If only Subaru still offers the Forester XT, that Navara will feel sluggish and slow against Subaru's boxy, wolf-in-sheep-clothing compact crossover.

Subaru will be offering soon the Evoltis locally. This is the same as the USDM Ascent - Subaru's 7-seat, 3-row crossover powered by a 2.4L turbo engine. Subaru might also bring the Outback XT with the same engine as the Ascent. The Ascent and the Outback XT has respectable performance, much like the Forester XT.

Subaru Ascent

Subaru Outback

Onga eh. sayang yung XT.

Anyway, i'm sure what OP is experiencing is the sudden surge in torque, kaso it's linear na after a while.

Unlike the NA fozzy or any NA engine for that matter, it will just keep on climbing, albeit less violent than a turbocharged diesel.

Kelangan niya pang pigain yung NA fozzy to get half the sensation he felt with the turbo diesel.

With the XT though, reach 1750 and 3000 rpm, then bye bye turbo diesel suvs na.

[Egan101]

Onga eh. sayang yung XT.

Anyway, i'm sure what OP is experiencing is the sudden surge in torque, kaso it's linear na after a while.

Unlike the NA fozzy, it will just keep on climbing, albeit less violent than a turbocharged diesel.

Kelangan niya pang pigain yung NA fozzy to get half the sensation he felt with the turbo diesel.

With the XT though, reach 1750 and 3000 rpm, then bye bye turbo diesel suvs na.

Subaru's turbo engines behave like NA engines prior to turbo spool. It feels relaxed even at 2k rpm. Once you climb past 2k rpm and boost engages, the tachometer surges towards 5k rpm if you keep the pressure on the gas pedal. Power delivery gets even better at Sport setting but if you want the shifts at 5k rpm, set the car at Sport# and it will be an easy climb past 200 kmh on a straight line.

[BlancNoir]

Subaru's turbo engines behave like NA engines prior to turbo spool. It feels relaxed even at 2k rpm. Once you climb past 2k rpm and boost engages, the tachometer surges towards 5k rpm if you keep the pressure on the gas pedal. Power delivery gets even better at Sport setting but if you want the shifts at 5k rpm, set the car at Sport# and it will be an easy climb past 200 kmh on a straight line.

Sorry, what i meant was 1750 rpm for the FA20 and 3000 rpm for the EJ255, then that's it.

We're hooked! for life. hehe

[dplgngr]

If only Subaru still offers the Forester XT, that Navara will feel sluggish and slow against Subaru's boxy, wolf-in-sheep-clothing compact crossover. Subaru only offer AWD sedans, crossovers, and SUVs. If you want a non-AWD Subaru, your only option is the BRZ.

Subaru will be offering soon the Evoltis locally. This is the same as the USDM Ascent - Subaru's 7-seat, 3-row crossover powered by a 2.4L turbo engine. Subaru might also bring the Outback XT with the same engine as the Ascent. The Ascent and the Outback XT has respectable performance, much like the Forester XT.

Subaru Ascent

Subaru Outback

Subaru AWD is fine eventhough im just opting for 4x2 (for truck based SUVs).

I've heard and thought about the Evoltis but not sure how much will Motor Image would price them. Hopefully the same pricing scheme as the current ones where there's an overlap in between models, like the top of the line XV is priced close to the middle variant of Forester. I can only hope they price the Evoltis middle-variant same as the top of the line Forester which is still below or around P2M.

Wala na daw Forester XT sabi nung sales agent dito sa Davao. Kung meron man paramg 2018 model na yata.

[johnbreeeezy]

Onga eh. sayang yung XT.

Anyway, i'm sure what OP is experiencing is the sudden surge in torque, kaso it's linear na after a while.

Unlike the NA fozzy or any NA engine for that matter, it will just keep on climbing, albeit less violent than a turbocharged diesel.

Kelangan niya pang pigain yung NA fozzy to get half the sensation he felt with the turbo diesel.

With the XT though, reach 1750 and 3000 rpm, then bye bye turbo diesel suvs na.

I.miss driving the XT of my workmate tuloy dahil sa thread. Sobra sarap i drive. Been driving a sedan and suv. Iba pag nahiram ko yun XT niya [emoji23]

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[Egan101]

Sorry, what i meant was 1750 rpm for the FA20 and 3000 rpm for the EJ255, then that's it.

We're hooked! for life. hehe

I have the FA20 on my FXT and peak torque starts at just over 2k rpm. Japanese turbo cars tend to behave that way, like the Civic RS. European-designed turbo cars tend to have its torque peak or turbo spool before 2k rpm, like the Fiesta Ecoboost and Golf.

Wala na daw Forester XT sabi nung sales agent dito sa Davao. Kung meron man paramg 2018 model na yata.

If there are remaining Forester SJ XT models, these are late model 2018 models that are being offered at a 350k discount. Baka nga wala na available. The Outback was also put on sale.

I.miss driving the XT of my workmate tuloy dahil sa thread. Sobra sarap i drive. Been driving a sedan and suv. Iba pag nahiram ko yun XT niya [emoji23]

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Hanap ka na rin for yourself. Used 2013-14 models could be had at around 700k nowadays while the 2015-2016 models at 900k.

[carxynogen]

What about zix performance?

For 60 months, 25.8% straight pero kung mag advance ka ng 1month 24.86%. Sabi pwede pa mas lower rate pag nakapag decide na talaga at kausapin nalang ang Account Manager direkta.

I see po, parang malaki parin para sa akin yung rate nila.
Eto kasi yung rate ng metrobank:

Terms Standard with One Month Advance
12 Months 4.6300% 3.9800%
18 Months 6.5800% 5.9200%
24 Months 9.0800% 8.4100%
36 Months 13.1100% 12.4000%
48 Months 17.7900% 17.0300%
60 Months 22.8800% 22.0700%

[johnbreeeezy]

I have the FA20 on my FXT and peak torque starts at just over 2k rpm. Japanese turbo cars tend to behave that way, like the Civic RS. European-designed turbo cars tend to have its torque peak or turbo spool before 2k rpm, like the Fiesta Ecoboost and Golf.



If there are remaining Forester SJ XT models, these are late model 2018 models that are being offered at a 350k discount. Baka nga wala na available. The Outback was also put on sale.



Hanap ka na rin for yourself. Used 2013-14 models could be had at around 700k nowadays while the 2015-2016 models at 900k.

Di priority sir heheh Kasal muna or bahay lol yun ang top 2mam priority hehehe

I see po, parang malaki parin para sa akin yung rate nila.
Eto kasi yung rate ng metrobank:

TermsStandardwith One Month Advance
12 Months4.6300%3.9800%
18 Months6.5800%5.9200%
24 Months9.0800%8.4100%
36 Months13.1100%12.4000%
48 Months17.7900%17.0300%
60 Months22.8800%22.0700%

Mas okay po tlaaga sir sa Metrobank. Kami din waiting for approval from metro and bdo. Mas mababa rates ng metro. Tho sabi sa akin sa bdo Kaya daw nila tapatan basta ma approved. We'll buy Fortuner V 4x2 para sa Daddy ko. Choices namin was Fort at Terra VL

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[dplgngr]

I see po, parang malaki parin para sa akin yung rate nila.
Eto kasi yung rate ng metrobank:

Terms Standard with One Month Advance
12 Months 4.6300% 3.9800%
18 Months 6.5800% 5.9200%
24 Months 9.0800% 8.4100%
36 Months 13.1100% 12.4000%
48 Months 17.7900% 17.0300%
60 Months 22.8800% 22.0700%

Di priority sir heheh Kasal muna or bahay lol yun ang top 2mam priority heheheMas okay po tlaaga sir sa Metrobank. Kami din waiting for approval from metro and bdo. Mas mababa rates ng metro. Tho sabi sa akin sa bdo Kaya daw nila tapatan basta ma approved. We'll buy Fortuner V 4x2 para sa Daddy ko. Choices namin was Fort at Terra VL

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Pwede naman sabihin na nag inquire ka sa ibang banks and eto rates nila para matapatan ng BDO hehe. Prefer ko lang BDO kasi repeat client na ako and pwede ko ipa auto-debit lang para di malimutan ang monthly.