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    #21
    What variant ba ng 2009 Innova?

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    #22
    Quote Originally Posted by 1D4LV View Post
    apologies if i will be offending the xwind owners, but my personal opinion is that even if you are getting the xwind brand new, you are still getting a 15 year old car... xwinds design and engine has not changed a bit, so i would still go for a second hand 3 year old innova, which is more refined, and rides better.

    to the ts, if your budget is 900k and it wont be enough for a brand new innova e, i dp mo yung 900k mo... liit na lang balance mo, and you get a brand new innova.
    baka wala pang 6k per month babayaran mo.

    but then again, the isuzu engine is the most durable in its class.... no doubt about that... i just feel that the innova is better, maski second hand pa yan.
    mahina din preno ng crosswind

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    #23
    Quote Originally Posted by donald015 View Post
    Which is better Brand New 2013 Isuzu Crosswind XT Limited Edition or Second Hand 2009 Toyota Innova G with 40k Millage from Toyota Shop
    WOW, brand new for brand new, i will get the Innova 2.5 D-4D.

    Pero kung pang-matagalan siguro Crosswind XT pa rin kukunin ko. Right now, plus 40,000 kms ang Innova namin and i am still observing it as to its longevity. Tatagal naman ito siempre at marami pang mileage pero i doubt lang kung maaabot nito ang plus 350,000 kms odo mileage before it stopped counting na ang Crosswind XT namin na hindi naman talaga nakakatikim ng casa maintenance. Gamit na gamit pa rin itong Crosswind na luma to this day.

    Now kung 40,000 km used Innova 2.5 versus Crosswind na brand-new at bibili ako thru my hard-earned money, titingin na lang ako ng iba pa na wala akong duda, say brand-new na Innova tutal may pambili pala naman ng brand-new unit.

    Goodluck sir.




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    #24
    Yes, If you re considering the 2009 innova vs the bnew crosswind, might as well get the brand new innova. But if the 2009 innova is in prestine condition and very low mileage, get the 2009 Innova, and save the extra bucks for accessories or upgrades. Btw, 40K mileage is not low for a 2009 vehicle.

    This is assuming vehicle use is primary for moving people and not heavy cargo. Its low speed/heavy duty vs high-speed passenger vehicle.

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    #25
    mukhang nasa high side yung second na innova at 900K. konting dagdag na lang brand new innova ka na bro.
    nothing beats a brand new car... iba ang dating pag bukas mo palang ng pinto, ewan ko kung bakit ganon

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    #26
    at 900K for a new innova J, may sukli ka nang pamborloloy..

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    YUP sir, madami na nagsa-suggest just buy a brand new Innova 2.5 D-4D, as also said so sir.

    Mas matipid din fuel consumption Innova 2.5 D-4D manual-transmission sa personal experience namin kaysa Crosswind XT manual.

    Not only that pa pala sir, mas mura ng kaunti pa maintenance sa service centre ng Toyota kaysa Isuzu ;)

    Cheers!



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    #28
    actually, i don't see much going wrong with a used vehicle of either brand. matibay pareho, maliban na lang kung inabuso ng owner. i suppose the bottom line will be the user's personal subjectivity..

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    #29
    Quote Originally Posted by Gumusut_Amige View Post
    mukhang nasa high side yung second na innova at 900K. konting dagdag na lang brand new innova ka na bro.
    nothing beats a brand new car... iba ang dating pag bukas mo palang ng pinto, ewan ko kung bakit ganon
    ikaw kasi ang basal, ang 2nd hand kasi nagamit na ng iba ,Kaya kahit sabihin mo na bata pa ang edad, 2nd hand pa rin siya ;)

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    Thank you po sa lahat ng nag reply we decide to buy new Innova G :D

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    #31
    Di ka nagkamali sa Innova.

    Sabi nga nung kaibigan ko na ang negosyo eh buy and sell, wala pinagkaiba ang ride comfort ng crosswind sajeppney kapag dumadaan sa riles hehehehe...

    Not sure with the new leaf springs, pero still ano ba ang pwedeng maging difference nyan?

    Another issue with crosswind is yung crack sa body frame sa may rear door which is di madedeny ng crosswind owners hehehe...

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    #32
    i am a loyal crosswind owner. i had an 02 XTO before and now, an XUV. honestly, if you are looking forward towards longer use. as in pangmatagalang gamit, crosswind ka na. fuel efficiency and durability is the sphere of isuzu. but keep in mind its deficient in power. mabagal mag accelerate due to its jurassic engine. ang innova, powerful engine kaya sobrang matulin. yup, matagtag din ang crosswind pero madaling gawan ng paraan.

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    #33
    We cannot deny that Isuzu diesel engine is one of the best pagdating sa efficiency and durability. Pero yung crosswind as whole, the built, finish, rustproofing, riding comfort etc, wala talaga.

    Even during hi-lander days, pagtabihin mo ang same year model na fx at hi lander, at same maintenance, mas madali pumangit ang finish ng hi lander.

    Yung isa pa nga na issue yung nagka crack na paint sa may rear passenger door. Kahit yung mga 2010 model na sportive na pumaparada ditto sa may sa amin, may crack rin.

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    #34
    Quote Originally Posted by siopaonatoasted View Post
    Di ka nagkamali sa Innova.

    Sabi nga nung kaibigan ko na ang negosyo eh buy and sell, wala pinagkaiba ang ride comfort ng crosswind sajeppney kapag dumadaan sa riles hehehehe...

    Not sure with the new leaf springs, pero still ano ba ang pwedeng maging difference nyan?

    Another issue with crosswind is yung crack sa body frame sa may rear door which is di madedeny ng crosswind owners hehehe...
    Ako I will deny yung crack sa body frame sa rear door kasi wala yung sa akin pati sa acceleration ok naman yung sa akin.

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    #35
    Pang business crosswind, parang truck yan wala inuurungan. Pang personal use, innova kahit 2nd hand. Durable din with carlike comfort and performance
    To be honest, its not fair contest unless xwind will have an iteq engine.

    Sent from my GT-N7105 using Tsikot Forums mobile app

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    #36
    Crosswind if it were my choice to take, aside from it being brand new. My uncle who has a Crosswind XUV usually has his tailpipe cleaned every car wash to remove all the residue that usually stays in there.

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    #37
    even when both cars are brand new, i still go for isuzu crosswind over the innova. isuzu is known for its durability and fuel efficiency. yong issue na mausok ang isuzu, disabling the egr and adding 2t to the fuel will address this problem. madali rin i maintain dahil almost bulletproof ang 4ja1 engine, matibay. ang downside lang nito, maingay ang makina dahil timing gear at mas mabagal kumpara sa innova . ang crosswind kahit malubog pa sa baha, change oil lang, sigurado aandar yan. ang innova, laki ng damage dahil may computer box na pricey.

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    #38
    Depends on how you will use it....kung pampamilya, gamitin mga 5 years, ok na innova..pero kung pang matagalan, as in pang pang maaaaaataaaaagaaaalaaann!! Crosswind.

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    #39
    Ung bagong crosswind ba may EGR? may napansin akong parang tubo sa eh.

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    #40
    Problem with the Crosswind is that after the engine and efficiency (and maybe flood fording capability), nothing much else follows really at this day and age.

    As i mentioned before though, the best Crosswind for me was still the first release XTO a/t.

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