Toyota Avanza 1.5G AT vs Suzuki Ertiga 1.4L GLX AT

[rickymartin]

Been looking with these 2 and can't decide which is better choice.

In terms of HP, Avanza na ako, with 102HP compare to Ertiga 95 HP, pero small difference lang naman at okay na rin naman ako sa Ertiga pagdating sa HP.

Ngayon tanong ko, sino ba ang mas lamang pagdating sa:

1.Fuel
2.Comfort/Legroom
3.Maintenance/Parts
4. Looks

[Egan101]

If you can extend your budget a bit more, go for the Innova. It will be much better than both.

[rickymartin]

Sad to know I can't afford 1M budget, I'm planning to put some body kits too. Or at least put some decent mags. If I can afford 1M I would go for Corolla Altis. Ma-porma eh.

[jyg1995]

If you can extend your budget a bit more, go for the Innova. It will be much better than both.

Innova is a very very good car based on my experience,but between innova and ertiga try to watch those review on YouTube and all of those are in favor to ertiga,handling,performance and and and Value for money because of its low price,The TOTL ertiga is still cheaper compare to the low end variant of innova. But don't expect to have a high resale value with the ertiga its badge with a big letter "S" not a big letter "T" so bagsak na bagsak ang price nyan.. but Hindi ka bumili ng new car Para ibenta...regarding spare parts meron mga shop sa banawe at araneta,price is not that expensive din naman Sakto lang..


Speaking of avanza Its a people carrier right? So its not meant to be driven hard on highway? Maingay kase at nanginginig ang avanza above 110kph..I'm talking about 1.5G with A/T transmission.ilang beses binalik sa casa sabi may maluwag na knot tas pinalitan engine support ganon na talaga.

[rickymartin]

Innova is a very very good car based on my experience,but between innova and ertiga try to watch those review on YouTube and all of those are in favor to ertiga,handling,performance and and and Value for money because of its low price,The TOTL ertiga is still cheaper compare to the low end variant of innova. But don't expect to have a high resale value with the ertiga its badge with a big letter "S" not a big letter "T" so bagsak na bagsak ang price nyan.. but Hindi ka bumili ng new car Para ibenta...regarding spare parts meron mga shop sa banawe at araneta,price is not that expensive din naman Sakto lang..

We're planning to keep the car naman for more than 5 years. Sa spare parts hopefully meron rin sa cavite, cavite pa kasi ako.

Speaking of avanza Its a people carrier right? So its not meant to be driven hard on highway? Maingay kase at nanginginig ang avanza above 110kph..I'm talking about 1.5G with A/T transmission.ilang beses binalik sa casa sabi may maluwag na knot tas pinalitan engine support ganon na talaga.

No worries, maintain naman ako sa 60kph magpatakbo ng kotse, I have a 92 lancer at never pa akong umabot ng 100kph, pinakamataas ko napatakbo 80+kph, once pa lang 'yon sa loob ng 2 years ko dinadrive.

Ang pinag-iisipan ko lang kasi if I'll get Avanza, medyo mahirap na lagyan ng bodykits, mags na lang siguro dahil almost 900k na price. If Ertiga, may chance na 'yung GL pa ang kunin kaya meron na meron pa talagang pang setup. Problema, parang wala pang mga bodykits ang Ertiga since bago pa lang.

[Egan101]

Sad to know I can't afford 1M budget, I'm planning to put some body kits too. Or at least put some decent mags. If I can afford 1M I would go for Corolla Altis. Ma-porma eh.

If you ask me, I'd rather spend the money for something more important (like additional budget for the car purchase) than spend it on body kits. I'd rather keep it stock as it will be easier to sell, in case you want to dispose of it.

If you really want to go into body kits with a car priced at less than 900k, you might as well opt for the Lancer EX 1.6L models or the City/Jazz E. There are a lot of options to choose from with these cars.

[rickymartin]

If you ask me, I'd rather spend the money for something more important (like additional budget for the car purchase) than spend it on body kits. I'd rather keep it stock as it will be easier to sell, in case you want to dispose of it.

If you really want to go into body kits with a car priced at less than 900k, you might as well opt for the Lancer EX 1.6L models or the City/Jazz E. There are a lot of options to choose from with these cars.

Good suggestion, actually mas gusto ko talaga sedan type. And Lancer EX and Honda City is good looking car with or without body kits. Muffler na lang ang ise-setup ko diyan and change color in the future. The only thing that makes me second thought having this car is the maintenance cost of Honda's car & fuel consumption (Okay ba FC ng City?). For the Lancer I think it's more cheap than Honda since we own a Lancer although it's 92 model that's why it's cheap. And I have an issue with Lancer EX trunk space.

So right now I ditched the Avanza and think if I'll go with City or Ertiga.

[Egan101]

The City is one good car in terms of fuel efficiency. Our 2009 City 1.5E 5AT (previous generation) can do 10 km/L on city driving and 15km/L on the highway. The newer City already has CVT instead of the AT tranny but with the same 1.5L SOHC VTEC engine. It has garnered very good reviews. It is bigger than the other sub-compacts and offers interior/trunk space as compacts. The VX and VX+ models are priced quite high though but the E model is one good deal for 800k. Honda maintenance is not cheap though but most new cars nowadays ain't as cheap to maintain as pre-2005 cars.

The Lancer EX 1.6L models also have good reviews on fuel efficiency and performance. It is the most affordable compact nowadays as the Altis, Civic, Focus, Elantra, and Mazda3 are priced above 900k.

If you're into the driving experience plus solid performance for a budget less than 900k, go for the Fiesta Ecoboost. If you really want good fuel efficiency plus decent power, you can check out the Accent CRDi.

[fanboi]

Avanza for size and ground clearance. Pero mas maganda interior ni ertiga. Based totl variant


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[zendong]

We're planning to keep the car naman for more than 5 years. Sa spare parts hopefully meron rin sa cavite, cavite pa kasi ako.




No worries, maintain naman ako sa 60kph magpatakbo ng kotse, I have a 92 lancer at never pa akong umabot ng 100kph, pinakamataas ko napatakbo 80+kph, once pa lang 'yon sa loob ng 2 years ko dinadrive.

Ang pinag-iisipan ko lang kasi if I'll get Avanza, medyo mahirap na lagyan ng bodykits, mags na lang siguro dahil almost 900k na price. If Ertiga, may chance na 'yung GL pa ang kunin kaya meron na meron pa talagang pang setup. Problema, parang wala pang mga bodykits ang Ertiga since bago pa lang.

Meron na ho magagaling na bodykit shop na kayang kayang magporma ng body kits kahit anung sskyan 20k din ang bayad so meaning magaling at polido..try nyo po search sa fb teddy bodykits nagchachampion na po sya sa mga car modification

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[rickymartin]

The City is one good car in terms of fuel efficiency. Our 2009 City 1.5E 5AT (previous generation) can do 10 km/L on city driving and 15km/L on the highway. The newer City already has CVT instead of the AT tranny but with the same 1.5L SOHC VTEC engine. It has garnered very good reviews. It is bigger than the other sub-compacts and offers interior/trunk space as compacts. The VX and VX+ models are priced quite high though but the E model is one good deal for 800k. Honda maintenance is not cheap though but most new cars nowadays ain't as cheap to maintain as pre-2005 cars.

The Lancer EX 1.6L models also have good reviews on fuel efficiency and performance. It is the most affordable compact nowadays as the Altis, Civic, Focus, Elantra, and Mazda3 are priced above 900k.

If you're into the driving experience plus solid performance for a budget less than 900k, go for the Fiesta Ecoboost. If you really want good fuel efficiency plus decent power, you can check out the Accent CRDi.

I think I'm okay with City rather than Fiesta Ecoboost. Honestly I'm hands down with Fiesta, but it's badge is Ford. The maintenance will be much higher than Honda.

For Accent, I'll pass this one. Unless someone here in my family can convince me getting Hyundai cars. I don't really know why but I'm not into Hyundai badge.

Avanza for size and ground clearance. Pero mas maganda interior ni ertiga. Based totl variant


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And that's why I ditched the Avanza.

Meron na ho magagaling na bodykit shop na kayang kayang magporma ng body kits kahit anung sskyan 20k din ang bayad so meaning magaling at polido..try nyo po search sa fb teddy bodykits nagchachampion na po sya sa mga car modification

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'Yan ba 'yung sa may UST malapit? Okay 'yan kung ganon. Alam ko na puntahan.

[zendong]

I think I'm okay with City rather than Fiesta Ecoboost. Honestly I'm hands down with Fiesta, but it's badge is Ford. The maintenance will be much higher than Honda.

For Accent, I'll pass this one. Unless someone here in my family can convince me getting Hyundai cars. I don't really know why but I'm not into Hyundai badge.



And that's why I ditched the Avanza.



'Yan ba 'yung sa may UST malapit? Okay 'yan kung ganon. Alam ko na puntahan.

Opo sa me dimasalang at meron din sa 5th avenue search nyo na lang sa fb teddy bodykits

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[rickymartin]

Opo sa me dimasalang at meron din sa 5th avenue search nyo na lang sa fb teddy bodykits

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Which ever I get, City or Ertiga diyan ko na lang dadalhin, unless na may makita ako dito sa cavite.

[Egan101]

I think I'm okay with City rather than Fiesta Ecoboost. Honestly I'm hands down with Fiesta, but it's badge is Ford. The maintenance will be much higher than Honda.

For Accent, I'll pass this one. Unless someone here in my family can convince me getting Hyundai cars. I don't really know why but I'm not into Hyundai badge.

We have 3 Hondas (City, Jazz, Accord) and maintenance ain't cheap if you go to the Honda casa. Honda exclusive fluids (VTEC oil, ATF, PSF, CVTF) are not cheap and parts are a bit pricey. All cars are out of warranty already so we just maintain on our own (still using the same kind of required fluids but sourced somewhere else). You can check out the Ford thread for details on Ford PMS or go to FCP (FordClubPH) for actual experiences of Ford owners in maintaining their vehicles.

My Fiesta Ecoboost has not reached 10k yet but based on the prices given to me by the Ford Libis, it's about the same if you just consider oils and filters.

Hyundai and Kia are very much different from their 90's and early 2000's models. Hyundai/Kia CRDi engines offer decent performance and their new models have very radical styling/looks that some people rave about. It pays to have an open mind and an objective approach when assessing vehicles rather than be swooned by "sabi-sabi". Bad part though is that Hari Motors (Hyundai dealer) has a not-so-friendly maintenance policy.

[rickymartin]

We have 3 Hondas (City, Jazz, Accord) and maintenance ain't cheap if you go to the Honda casa. Honda exclusive fluids (VTEC oil, ATF, PSF, CVTF) are not cheap and parts are a bit pricey. All cars are out of warranty already so we just maintain on our own (still using the same kind of required fluids but sourced somewhere else). You can check out the Ford thread for details on Ford PMS or go to FCP (FordClubPH) for actual experiences of Ford owners in maintaining their vehicles.

My Fiesta Ecoboost has not reached 10k yet but based on the prices given to me by the Ford Libis, it's about the same if you just consider oils and filters.

Hyundai and Kia are very much different from their 90's and early 2000's models. Hyundai/Kia CRDi engines offer decent performance and their new models have very radical styling/looks that some people rave about. It pays to have an open mind and an objective approach when assessing vehicles rather than be swooned by "sabi-sabi". Bad part though is that Hari Motors (Hyundai dealer) has a not-so-friendly maintenance policy.

Thanks for recommending FCP, PMS cost niya parang mga normal lang. 6k, 8k ect. Mas mahal ba ang honda kesa ford pagdating sa PMS?

[Challenger75]

If you're looking at the City and Avanza, might as well take a look at the Ecosport since they're all in the same price range. New car, good looks, excellent ground clearance and flood fording capability. Beware of the DCT issues of Ford with their Focus and Fiesta, I've driven the Fiesta Titanium 1.5 Powershift many times and the jerky transmission issue is indeed true (in city driving), worrisome for long-term users since this may cause premature wear and tear. Go for the M/T if you can.

The Innova though is your best bet, save up for a few more months and get the D4D model and you'll have no regrets with the power and fuel consumption. Just change the rims to 17s to make it look beefier.

[rickymartin]

So hindi pa rin pala okay 'yung issue about sa transmission? I'm okay with Fiesta manual trans. If only my sister would get manual.

Ayaw naman niya ng Innova. Although rims lang talaga ang papalitan sa Innova okay na 'yan. Sa City naman medyo alangan lang siya dahil CVT. Sa Ertiga body kits + rims okay na. Medyo maliit nga lang. Minsan napapaisip ako sa sis ko, aba'y lintek mag manual ka para hindi mo isipin 'yang mga issue sa transmission.

[boytsiks]

So hindi pa rin pala okay 'yung issue about sa transmission? I'm okay with Fiesta manual trans. If only my sister would get manual.

Ayaw naman niya ng Innova. Although rims lang talaga ang papalitan sa Innova okay na 'yan. Sa City naman medyo alangan lang siya dahil CVT. Sa Ertiga body kits + rims okay na. Medyo maliit nga lang. Minsan napapaisip ako sa sis ko, aba'y lintek mag manual ka para hindi mo isipin 'yang mga issue sa transmission.

Bro, no pun intended ha. Anong bodykits ba ang pede ilagay sa ertiga? Spoiler, side skirts, chin or body cladding? Maganda na sya for stock, IMHO.

Why not get a jazz or any other hatch if plan to go that route? Get a good aftermarket rims. Forget about the bodykits. Kelangan mo ba ng 7 seats? I think medyo masakip na sa rear seats ng ertiga.

[Egan101]

So hindi pa rin pala okay 'yung issue about sa transmission? I'm okay with Fiesta manual trans. If only my sister would get manual.

Ayaw naman niya ng Innova. Although rims lang talaga ang papalitan sa Innova okay na 'yan. Sa City naman medyo alangan lang siya dahil CVT. Sa Ertiga body kits + rims okay na. Medyo maliit nga lang. Minsan napapaisip ako sa sis ko, aba'y lintek mag manual ka para hindi mo isipin 'yang mga issue sa transmission.

Yung lumang City/Jazz (2003-2008), naka CVT naman yun pero madami pa rin gumagamit nun hanggang ngayon. Yung Mirage, naka CVT rin. Ito pa ibang CVT sa market - new City/Jazz, Lancer GT-A, Forester, Impreza, XV, Sylphy, Altis. Yung Ford naman, halos Powershift dual-clutch tranny gamit sa models nila except sa mga trucks.

[rickymartin]

Bro, no pun intended ha. Anong bodykits ba ang pede ilagay sa ertiga? Spoiler, side skirts, chin or body cladding? Maganda na sya for stock, IMHO.

Why not get a jazz or any other hatch if plan to go that route? Get a good aftermarket rims. Forget about the bodykits. Kelangan mo ba ng 7 seats? I think medyo masakip na sa rear seats ng ertiga.

Maganda naman 'yung stock, if Sporty variant. For me.

Ganito sana ang concept na gusto ko.


Hindi naman need talaga ng 7 seats, nagustuhan ko lang gawing cargo 'yung rear seats.