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    #41
    Quote Originally Posted by XTO View Post
    see???? hahaha! page 1 will tell us all what really happened and still happening. :meeting:

    di n'yo napansin tumahimik na sila? kasi nga daw, this poll is such a sham. I am looking forward to CAGI's awards. The Autofocus one is being manipulated anyway...:tounge::bwahaha:
    Quote Originally Posted by XTO View Post
    Well sorry guys, but the result on the following categories look very reliable to me. take a second look :consoling2:

    SUB COMPACT SEDAN
    HondaCity – 700
    ToyotaVios – 399
    Honda Jazz – 185

    COMPACT SEDAN
    Honda Civic – 660
    Toyota Altis – 316
    Mitsubishi Lancer - EX209

    MID SIZE SEDAN
    HondaAccord – 729
    ToyotaCamry – 468
    Mazda 6 – 140

    AUV
    Isuzu Crosswind – 814
    Toyota Innova – 617
    Mitsubishi Fuzion -98
    Mitsubishi Adventure -78
    Toyota Avanza – 62

    MINI VAN
    KiaCarens – 675
    Toyota Previa – 560
    Mitsubishi Grandis – 150

    LARGE VAN
    Hyundai Grand Starex – 667
    Toyota Hi-Ace Super Grandia – 600
    Kia Carnival – 322

    PICK UP TRUCK
    Mitsubishi Strada – 668
    Toyota Hi-Lux – 451
    Nissan Navara – 364
    Isuzu Dmax – 228
    Ford Ranger – 110

    COMPACT SUV
    Honda CRV – 607
    Toyota RAV4 – 298

    MID SIZE SUV
    Mitsubishi Montero Sport – 671
    Toyota Fortuner – 442
    Hyundai Santa Fe -233
    Kia Sorento – 89
    Ford Everest - 81
    Kinda contradicting yourself there bro - perhaps because the Monty is now #2? Anyway for me, for the year 2009 I think the Montero should be #1, it's the only one that's given the Fort a run for it's money, priced competitively with the Fort it gave prospective buyers a breath of fresh air.

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    #42
    Now I am sure XTO is thinking its not so reliable anymore... I for one never thought it was reliable even in the beginning. Its not the picks that I am against its how the poll is conducted that is a questionable. Imagine people can vote weekly and then create new accounts and vote and vote again. Others can even buy magazines and X5 their votes.

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    #43
    Quote Originally Posted by ianmitsulancer View Post
    yep. the Montero Sport this time around.

    it seems so odd that the SF would overtake the MS and even the Fortuner- one time big time imbes na gradual!
    I suspect some Hyundai sales people are doing this. Di lang sa Santa Fe maskin sa ibang category notice almost all Hyundai cars are top or near the top. And the Grand Starex is now #2 in the Auto of the Year while before it was lagging a lot. As I said the paddingan has started! Ganun din last year but it was Kia.

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    #44
    How did that happen? MS is #2? I voted for MS just last monday, and it was leading way ahead..hmmmmm.

    sad, it's not an honorable survey pala. hmp.

    Im glad Strada is still leading...lets see if meron milagro that will change it's placement from 1st to 2nd..

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    #45
    Quote Originally Posted by tidus1203 View Post
    I suspect some Hyundai sales people are doing this. Di lang sa Santa Fe maskin sa ibang category notice almost all Hyundai cars are top or near the top. And the Grand Starex is now #2 in the Auto of the Year while before it was lagging a lot. As I said the paddingan has started! Ganun din last year but it was Kia.
    ay sus...

    basta... banat ako for the MS this year. i submitted my top gear ballots na to JRS. Here is hoping they will get counted!

    *av8or5, yup, im glad the Strada is still on the lead.

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    #46
    Quote Originally Posted by tidus1203 View Post
    I suspect some Hyundai sales people are doing this. Di lang sa Santa Fe maskin sa ibang category notice almost all Hyundai cars are top or near the top. And the Grand Starex is now #2 in the Auto of the Year while before it was lagging a lot. As I said the paddingan has started! Ganun din last year but it was Kia.
    Old, old news.

    When Chevrolet realized that Isuzu was gaming the Autofocus voting a few years ago (back when you could basically vote as long as you had load in your cellphone... no per week or per day limit), they budgetted a cellphone budget for their sales representatives to make the Optra win.

    Many of the manufacturers do it. It was only last year that the voting from the public was able to even the score... and then some... some enthusiast groups spam vote their cars... ...and some of the big name guys have started to budget for their votes, also.

    Which makes the Autofocus a very, very lucrative business proposition for all involved... and a big revenue generator for the sponsors...

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    #47
    Quote Originally Posted by tidus1203 View Post
    Ako ba tintukoy mo? Well its still a sham!

    So what if SF is ahead or Montero is ahead. Could care less, its all a sham!
    yes, ikaw! sham or not, i don't care either as topgear never ever influenced me when i got my monty

    Quote Originally Posted by tidus1203 View Post
    Now I am sure XTO is thinking its not so reliable anymore... I for one never thought it was reliable even in the beginning. Its not the picks that I am against its how the poll is conducted that is a questionable. Imagine people can vote weekly and then create new accounts and vote and vote again. Others can even buy magazines and X5 their votes.
    no tidus, majority of the categories proved it all but not on the mid-sized suv category. patawa yan.... baka mongoloid maniniwala dyan :evillaugh

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    #48
    Hmmm lets see sa sub compact the i10 is 2nd and has leapfrogged the Vios? Reliable picks? I don't agree!

    Sa compact naman i30 has beaten Altis, Lancer and Focus? Sure its a good car but its price is ridiculous so I also don't agree...

    And then in the midsize. Sonata ahead of Camry? 50-50. The Camry is the better car but the Sonata is cheap for what it offers.

    AUV ang pinakanakakatawa. The Xwind over the Innova?? Ang luma na ng Xwind and its still bagging awards 10 years on?

    I dunno about you, pero habang tumatagal lalong nagiging patawa at kengkoy tong poll na ito.

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    #49
    Quote Originally Posted by niky View Post
    Old, old news.



    Which makes the Autofocus a very, very lucrative business proposition for all involved... and a big revenue generator for the sponsors...
    Hahaha even Kia puts this award in their Carens ads (Carens being the Auto of the year last year) which is really funny given the awards is so manipulated and very very tantamount to cheating.

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    #50
    Quote Originally Posted by tidus1203 View Post
    Hmmm lets see sa sub compact the i10 is 2nd and has leapfrogged the Vios? Reliable picks? I don't agree!

    Sa compact naman i30 has beaten Altis, Lancer and Focus? Sure its a good car but its price is ridiculous so I also don't agree...

    And then in the midsize. Sonata ahead of Camry? 50-50. The Camry is the better car but the Sonata is cheap for what it offers.
    you pointed this out ha? and since all i10, i30 and sonata are all hyundais so malinaw na 'to

    Quote Originally Posted by tidus1203 View Post
    AUV ang pinakanakakatawa. The Xwind over the Innova?? Ang luma na ng Xwind and its still bagging awards 10 years on?

    I dunno about you, pero habang tumatagal lalong nagiging patawa at kengkoy tong poll na ito.
    well di mo masisi mga tao, i don't think isuzu did something on this eh di sana pati d-max and alterra ginawan na rin ng magic.

    Okay na 'to tidus. poll lang naman ito and either way sorry na lang sa madaling mabuyo para bumili kung dito sila mag base.

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    #51
    Ya I know Hyundai is doing some magic (I own their car but I am not Hyundai), thus this poll is so manipulated... What we are arguing here is not the picks but the credibility of this poll as a whole and the methodology used. From the beginning nga I was skeptical of this poll but you seem to have faith in it. Now you are seeing for yourself why I am very skeptical right in front of your eyes.

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    #52
    close na ang on-line poll by wednesday, 9/30. based on partial tally...

    [quote] Hmmm lets see sa sub compact the i10 is 2nd and has leapfrogged the Vios? Reliable picks? I don't agree!
    quote]

    i10 = 4378
    city= 4260
    too close na pwede pa mabago. may chance pa, ha ha ha

    vios = 3266

    AUV ang pinakanakakatawa. The Xwind over the Innova?? Ang luma na ng Xwind and its still bagging awards 10 years on?

    I dunno about you, pero habang tumatagal lalong nagiging patawa at kengkoy tong poll na ito.
    Crosswind = 3887
    Innova = 2309
    :hysterical:

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    #53
    i brought my voting forms from TopGear Magazine to the nearest JRS office here in baguio about a week ago--- only to find out that STV and JRS didnt have a closed deal!

    no, i wont go out of my way just to snail mail it... i'll just vent out on them via email. grrrrrrrrrr

    to make this MORE effective next year, there should also be a scoring method wherein 50% will depend on the votation via online voting and other forms of media AND 50% from actual sales figures from CAMPI and TMA... in that way, the truth will be revealled & people from those cheating brands with a dozen email addresses will be will find themselves helpless... especially Brand H*****i!!! haiz!!!
    Last edited by ianmitsulancer; September 28th, 2009 at 07:26 PM.

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    #54
    Quote Originally Posted by tidus1203 View Post
    AUV ang pinakanakakatawa. The Xwind over the Innova?? Ang luma na ng Xwind and its still bagging awards 10 years on?
    I dunno about you, pero habang tumatagal lalong nagiging patawa at kengkoy tong poll na ito.
    Quote Originally Posted by XTO View Post
    Okay na 'to tidus. poll lang naman ito and either way sorry na lang sa madaling mabuyo para bumili kung dito sila mag base.
    www.philstar.com

    The_Country's_Most_Popular-_AUV

    Total Votes
    1 Isuzu Crosswind= 4434
    2 Toyota Innova= 3112

    - - - - - -
    3 Mitsubishi Fuzion= 850
    4 Mitsubishi Adventure= 565
    5 Toyota Avanza= 148

    ouch!
    :hysterical:

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    #55
    Quote Originally Posted by Rev!t View Post
    www.philstar.com

    The_Country's_Most_Popular-_AUV

    Total Votes
    1 Isuzu Crosswind= 4434
    2 Toyota Innova= 3112

    - - - - - -
    3 Mitsubishi Fuzion= 850
    4 Mitsubishi Adventure= 565
    5 Toyota Avanza= 148

    ouch!
    :hysterical:
    After over ten years of practice of fixing the votes.

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    #56
    Nanalo ang Genesis Coupe at Montero Sport ha..

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    #57
    Grand Starex is the overall car of the year!! IMO does not deserve it! Dapat talaga yung Panamera Turbo!

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    #58
    Hyundai Tucson is #1 in the Compact SUV Category!!!

    1 Hyundai Tucson - 6,478 votes
    2 Honda CRV - 4,473 votes
    3 Mitsubishi Outlander - 2,538 votes


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    #59
    2009 Automobile of the Year IMHO is Mitsubishi Montero Sport.

    Ano sa tingin niyo guys? Ito ang breakthrough eh, well ayon sa sales at mga MS owners na nakikita ko ngayon hehe.

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    #60
    Yeah its also a great candidate pero ako Panamera Turbo parin. Sure di sya for regular consumption pero a Porsche luxury executive sedan, now that's something...

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