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    Let's say I was to buy a car for 60-70+ male person who still drives regularly, what would it be?

    It probably has to have a manual transmission, since that is what he is used to. It probably has to be a car, since AUVs and SUVs are quite large, less maneuverable and may stress his eyesight and parking skills. It has to have all-power accessories, probably should have trunk (since hatches are more for the younger folk), should be cheap to run (diesel maybe?), stable at speed on highways, and most importantly, it should be befitting and respectable to someone of his age, so cheerful, youth-oriented cars (and colors) are out. It may or may not be brand new, it just has to be easily available and serviceable.

    What do you guys think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ronallandottk View Post
    Let's say I was to buy a car for 60-70+ male person who still drives regularly, what would it be?

    It probably has to have a manual transmission, since that is what he is used to. It probably has to be a car, since AUVs and SUVs are quite large, less maneuverable and may stress his eyesight and parking skills. It has to have all-power accessories, probably should have trunk (since hatches are more for the younger folk), should be cheap to run (diesel maybe?), stable at speed on highways, and most importantly, it should be befitting and respectable to someone of his age, so cheerful, youth-oriented cars (and colors) are out. It may or may not be brand new, it just has to be easily available and serviceable.

    What do you guys think?
    BMW 320d. :D if sky's the limit for the budget, that is.

    Any of the currently available compact sedans would probably be good. The altis, focus, civic...

    or how about crossover SUV's...?

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    Go for crossover SUV's. You can choose CR-V, Santa Fe, Tucson (the Hyundai have diesel option), Forester or RAV-4. Pwede din Captiva pero since matanda na ayaw na natin ng sakit sa ulo when dealing with Chevrolet service.

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    i'd ask the guy first about the manual tranny; ung main complaint ng uncle ko is that masakit sa tuhod ung m/t pag trapik

    With regard to type(SUV/sedan/etc), something similar to what he's driving siguro; if he/she is as stubborn as my parents baka di kaagad maka adjust B)

    Unless you have grand plans of making it a surprise or something, why not just ask him/her? malamang bibisita rin naman kayo sa showroom and for the test drive e.

    Gawin mo ung ginawa ng tatay sa Transformers; kunwari papark kayo sa PGA/Viking/CATS motors...sabay alis sa parking at diretso kayo sa used car lots :D

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    Accord / Camry.

    I`ve seen an old man driving an audi r8.

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    Hyundai Accent or Audi A4 TDI.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scharnhorst View Post
    BMW 320d. :D if sky's the limit for the budget, that is.

    Any of the currently available compact sedans would probably be good. The altis, focus, civic...

    or how about crossover SUV's...?
    320d is quite for the people whose age are in twenties to thirties.

    Dapat siguro 7-series.


    For the old man to be cool, buy him a subaru impreza wrx sti.

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    Quote Originally Posted by renzo_d10 View Post
    320d is quite for the people whose age are in twenties to thirties.

    Dapat siguro 7-series.


    For the old man to be cool, buy him a subaru impreza wrx sti.
    The considerations were:

    1) size (hence the preference for a car... this probably precludes the midsize sedans as well)
    2) non-flashiness (wala na agad dito yung sti at evo... or even the jazz and city... or the hatch focus.. or even the civic?)
    3) a trunk (no hatches raw)
    4) fuel economy (money might be an object, so hindi rin ata pwede yung mga germans at lexus dito.)
    5) M/T tranny (but this might be debatable..)

    I think the best bet would be the 2.0 CR-V or the CRDi tucson...

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    2009 Altis 1.6E Manual or 1.6G Manual- good ergonomics and cheap to run rated 5 stars Frontal Crash by the IIHS and EuroNCAP.

    you could also go for the Civic 1.8V M/T but the dashboard and ergonomics is a bit to STAR TREK if you know what I mean...

    but for the Money and Value go for the Altis its definitely worth having...

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    Most old people 60 to 70 of age need a car that are reliable and easy to drive. Any brand will do as long as the user is happy and comfortable with it.

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    If buying brand new the likely cars to my mind would probably be a 1.5 GLS Accent, a 1.6 Sentra, or a 1.6E Corolla. Vioses, Yarises, Citys and Jazzes are out, just too funky. A Civic would probably be too techy/geeky. A Mazda is too flashy and would guzzle fuel, while a Focus sedan, while conservative in appearance, may not be that reliable from what I've read elsewhere on these boards.

    A Crosswind perhaps?

    If second hand maybe an older, more formal car like a Camry or an Accord? An affordable German marque would also be appropriate.

    As for crossover vehicles, a Tucson I suppose, given its subdued lines. A RAV4 or CRV may be too attention getting.

    Thanks for your inputs people. If you have other thoughts feel free to comment.

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    A Nissan Sentra with either the 1.3L or 1.6L engine would be best, i think. Get one in the color black.

    If fuel cost is getting expensive for you, just convert it to run on Auto-LPG.

    2008 Nissan Sentra 1.3L (N16 body) AUTO-LPG conversion
    http://tsikot.yehey.com/forums/showthread.php?t=51318

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    Quote Originally Posted by ronallandottk View Post
    If buying brand new the likely cars to my mind would probably be a 1.5 GLS Accent, a 1.6 Sentra, or a 1.6E Corolla. Vioses, Yarises, Citys and Jazzes are out, just too funky. A Civic would probably be too techy/geeky. A Mazda is too flashy and would guzzle fuel, while a Focus sedan, while conservative in appearance, may not be that reliable from what I've read elsewhere on these boards.

    A Crosswind perhaps?

    If second hand maybe an older, more formal car like a Camry or an Accord? An affordable German marque would also be appropriate.

    As for crossover vehicles, a Tucson I suppose, given its subdued lines. A RAV4 or CRV may be too attention getting.

    Thanks for your inputs people. If you have other thoughts feel free to comment.
    you were probably reading the Lemon Focus thread. Not a good barometer for the overall reliability of the car or manufacturer, since you'll get the same experience if you get a lemon car from any other manufacturer.

    but that's beside the point.

    get a brand new car, if you're worried about reliability (standard ang 5 year warranty ang hyundai, btw). The CR-V is so common on the road nowadays, so don't worry about it being too eye-catching.

    as I said before, he's probably better off with a compact sedan or a crossover suv. Might have some difficulty with bigger vehicles such as the crosswind.

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    First of all... at 60-something, driving a manual in traffic is torture. I'm only half-that-age, but I've got arthritic knees... and after two hours in Manila traffic, I often want to just lay down and die.

    If we're considering AT compacts, and convenience and comfort are the foremost considerations...

    The Subaru Impreza is probably the best all-around, except for the stupid transmission. Oh... one dealership in the whole R.P.

    The Focus is slightly stiffer, but better in most other respects, except for the small back seat. This car, IMHO, is fitting for older drivers (my Dad, at 62, drives a diesel version).

    The Mazda3 is too youthful, given your specifications, but great otherwise.

    The Corolla has the best ride and geriatric friendly seats, but the steering is too darty and imprecise and the handling is wallowy... not something for a driver with slow reflexes or a weak heart .

    The Civic is a masterpiece of engineering, terrific ergonomics, easy to drive, great engine, best-in-class 5-speed AT (for gasoline models... yeah, the Lancer has a CVT, but that's a pretty big car, and the Focus has the 6-DCT, but that's only with the diesel)... but the seats are too damn hard.

    Everything else is too old.

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    The Grand Livina is actually very decent. Comfy, not too big.

    The Carens is, like the Corolla, kind of wallowy, and the tail has a tendency of stepping out under hard braking (no ABS).


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    If we go to AT subcompacts, the Jazz / City twins are even easier to drive than the cars above... though the looks and firm seats may not be to his liking.

    I don't like the Vios that much, but the Yaris is pretty nice... there's some good deals on the 1.5 AT Yaris from Toyota (thanks to the sales domination of the Jazz). It's more stable to drive than the Vios or the Corolla. Might be too cutesy for the old guy, but it's a great little car. It handles securely, has good economy and has seat space that's almost as good as the Jazz.

    And it's cheap.

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    RE: Focus issues... it's not any less reliable or more reliable than, say, a Honda Civic (take that as you will)... That said, being in the Ford club, and knowing the issues that have come out, I wouldn't hesitate to get a TDCI.

    Well... I wouldn't hesitate to get a TDCI any more than I'd hesitate to get any CRDi-type vehicle... I'm still worried about long-term reliability of all modern diesels given our local fuel... but Ford, at least, uses the superior Bosch systems... the CRDIs with the most complaints against them, Toyotas, Isuzus, Nissan Patrols... all use Denso.
    Last edited by niky; November 22nd, 2009 at 07:59 PM.

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    i'd have to agree w/ bro niky. i think they'd be a lot more comfy driving an a/t transmission in this day & age. judging from the experience of my geriatric parents, shifting from a car w/ a manual tranny to a vehicle equipped w/ an automatic tranny would be quite seamless

    regarding your main concern on w/c car to acquire for older people; how about the kia picanto and its sibling the rio? interestingly enough, in our village i see a lot of older folks driving around in these cars. i think they might be worth considering since the urban crampness can really get under one's skin.

    besides, we have a 1.3 idsi jazz and i'm thinking the picanto might be as easy or maybe even easier to drive. same goes relatively w/ the rio i'm guessing

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    A secondhand TDCi Focus Manual. 6 speed pa yun para kay granpa! hehehe

    *manual
    *diesel
    *good view all around
    *hatch but has a trunk comparable to a sedan

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    Quote Originally Posted by basti08 View Post
    A secondhand TDCi Focus Manual. 6 speed pa yun para kay granpa! hehehe

    *manual
    *diesel
    *good view all around
    *hatch but has a trunk comparable to a sedan
    Hmmm. Interesting choice. :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by baludoy View Post
    i'd have to agree w/ bro niky. i think they'd be a lot more comfy driving an a/t transmission in this day & age. judging from the experience of my geriatric parents, shifting from a car w/ a manual tranny to a vehicle equipped w/ an automatic tranny would be quite seamless

    regarding your main concern on w/c car to acquire for older people; how about the kia picanto and its sibling the rio? interestingly enough, in our village i see a lot of older folks driving around in these cars. i think they might be worth considering since the urban crampness can really get under one's skin.

    besides, we have a 1.3 idsi jazz and i'm thinking the picanto might be as easy or maybe even easier to drive. same goes relatively w/ the rio i'm guessing
    Perhaps you people are right. I guess I've been basing the choice of a transmission based on my own experiences, and I tend to have a little difficulty making transitions from M/T to A/T (left leg gets kinda restless with nothing to do). If it's an A/T though, may have to go with diesel for better torque and fuel economy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by basti08 View Post
    A secondhand TDCi Focus Manual. 6 speed pa yun para kay granpa! hehehe

    *manual
    *diesel
    *good view all around
    *hatch but has a trunk comparable to a sedan
    I'd agree... I love that car. But one caveat... the clutch is a knee-killer.

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    kung for oldiesm=, montero

What car to buy for older people?