2008 Accord or 2007 Camry

[SteveMcQueen]

Hello Tsikoteers. I intend to buy a midsize car this July (2.4L only) and am in a dilemma as to what to get. I like the Camry's updated styling, nice interior appointments, 6-speed sequential transmission, manual override (seems great from an enthusiast's perspective), but have not had the chance to test it myself. The Accord, on the other hand, is a proven driver's car with good quality interior materials, sporty tuning, and proven high resale value. The only problem I have with the current Accord is that it's kinda "old".

While a redesign of the 2008 Accord looms in the horizon, I'm not sure if I'll be able to wait indefinitely for its arrival (when is it coming out?). Given this situation, should I choose the Camry now or should I wait some more for the next-generation Accord?

[the josh]

I like Camry's styling better

[awing]

Is this the 2008 Honda Accord?

[drey]

damn, we are moving to future styling FAST!

[Horsepower]

That's too compact and fat to be an Accord.

Accords are usually wide and proportionally big.

Gulps a LOT of gas though.

[BlueBimmer]

i hope the asian accord looks a little like that concept...

anyway i'd pick the camry

[AG4]

Is this the 2008 Honda Accord?

No, thats just a photoshop edited photo of the Honda Sports 4 Concept (hint of a future Acura sedan).


The new Accord Coupe gives us a clue on the basic styling language of the next gen Accord sedan. The front half should be similar, just like the way the Civic Coupe(1st released as a concept) and the Civic sedan have a similar looking front half.

Spy photos of the "prodcution" 2008 Accord Coupe.

Its very close to the Accord Coupe concept.

[Camgen6]

2.4L I4 has 5 speed, you mentioned 6 speed and those are the V6s.

[Camgen6]

Is this the 2008 Honda Accord?

No, I just started a thread under "car talk" na may pics ng masked 08 Accord Sedan.

[SteveMcQueen]

It is apparent that the launch of the 2008 Accord sedan is forthcoming soon, perhaps as early as July in the USA. The spyshots of the sedan have created quite a stir in the forums. It has been described as somewhat looking like the current BMW 5 Series.

While its design is something that will discussed over and over in the boards, I think what is exciting about the latest generation is the new technology that will be applied to the engines. One respected car mag puts the I4's output at 180HP, while that of the V6 at about 240HP. What remains to be seen is the interior. If the competition is to be the benchmark, I think we'll be seeing something that will be as luxurious, ergonomic, functional, and comfortable for the majority of the Accord's target market. Factor in the somewhat famed sporty handling of Honda cars, I think this one will be worth waiting for (in 2008 yet?).

I guess the only challenge left for anyone contemplating a purchase of a mid-size is if he or she can bear the waiting. I say, good luck to us all.

[Vioser]

Mas prefer ko yung camry dahil para sa akin mas futuristic kaysa current accord.

[IMm29]

Camry for me. I still want one badly. v6 3.5 for me please! Power, comfort, looks, luxury, newness, quality, toyota reliability, power everything, manu-matic transmission..... yummy.

this together with the 530d huh? hehehe! hot cars.

Camry pa rin in this comparo. OT: compared to a 530d? sa BMW ako. hehe! oh if i could only afford one.

[109]

Hello Tsikoteers. I intend to buy a midsize car this July (2.4L only) and am in a dilemma as to what to get. I like the Camry's updated styling, nice interior appointments, 6-speed sequential transmission, manual override (seems great from an enthusiast's perspective), but have not had the chance to test it myself. The Accord, on the other hand, is a proven driver's car with good quality interior materials, sporty tuning, and proven high resale value. The only problem I have with the current Accord is that it's kinda "old".

While a redesign of the 2008 Accord looms in the horizon, I'm not sure if I'll be able to wait indefinitely for its arrival (when is it coming out?). Given this situation, should I choose the Camry now or should I wait some more for the next-generation Accord?

wait for the new accord para di ka magsisi sa huli

[powertool]

i just got my 2007 2.4v camry about a month ago. my previous car was a 2002 2.0L VTi accord, so i guess i am in a unique position to answer your question.

i love the camry's styling---it's modern yet understated, sleek yet elegant. the a/c is arctic cold although the AUTO mode (which is the default mode when you turn it on) tends to go to max fan setting when you start it so you have to lower the fan speed manually all the time. the interior uses top class materials and plush fabrics (with the exception of the awful fake wood). the interior space is generous in all directions, but the rear seat seatback doesn't fold down (because it has a motorized recline feature) which limits ultimate cargo capacity. the back up sensors are very useful but the front corner sensors have limited usefulness and often gives off annoying alarms when pedestrians or cyclists pass by. the ride is firm for a camry, but this results in (surprisingly) flat cornering and very gradual onset understeer. kinda like 80% of a mazda6' handling prowess but with a plusher ride.

unfortunately, not everything has been a bed of roses for me. the day after i got my car, i had to return it for servicing because i noticed that the rear center armrest had a defective lid that was unhinged and did not lock shut. toyota c'wealth replaced it immediately under warranty but it was a surprising quality lapse for such an expensive car. after a few hundred kilometers, i noticed an annoying squeak/rattle coming from the rear parcel shelf, an annoying squeak from the left side of the dash and an intermittent rattle coming frm the center console! i've brought the car to toyota commonwealth 2x already but they cannot get rid of the irritating sounds (fyi, the technician from the casa acknowledged the sounds during our road test, so i am not being overly picky! besides, for P1.65m, i expect perfection at least for the first few thousand kms!). the car is made in thailand so i guess quality is not the same versus cbus made in japan.

my previous car, an '02 accord, did not give me any problems until the day i "retired" it at 5 years old and 80K km on its odometer. the inevitable squeaks and rattles normal to all cars only manifested at 30k km vs my current camry's 1k km! my accord had a softer ride although understeer was much heavier. its interior was more ergonomically designed than the camry but was not as luxurious.

if not for the ungainly styling of the current accord, i would have chosen the accord over the camry just for sheer reliability and excellent engineering, but the pointy bug eyed face and frumpy 80's rear of the accord really turned me off. hopefully, the next accord will have better styling.

[SteveMcQueen]

Powertool, you obviously are in a unique position to lend your insights and experiences. Thank you for taking the time to share your thoughts with us.

I have actually seen, up close, a number of 2.4Vs already. It seems to be the most in-demand variant. I've been meaning to look at the base 2.4G, for comparative purposes, but have not had the luck so far. I, too, am impressed with the luxurious interiors and the curvaceous appeal of the new design. It's appeal is buttressed by it winning "Car of the Year" honors, stateside.

I can understand your decision for going with the new Camry over the slightly updated Accord. Had the Camry come out with the same styling that it had been known for for the past years, my decision would have been easier. For the same price of 1.4 million, I'd get the Accord over the Camry. But, as it is right now, the 2.4v has the edge over the 2.4 Accord.

Could you care to comment some more on your driving impressions? What are your actual fuel numbers? I'll be driving the car daily in mostly city driving, without any passengers.

[J97]

Sir, in my opinion, stick w/ the V (1.646m)variant P215k difference from the G (1.431m) variant. if you have seen the V variant, ma-turn off kana sa G (base model).

for P215k difference you have th ff:
leather seats beige din (fabric na dumihin beige color)
rear electronic sunshade (G manual sunshade)
tri color optitron guage (G -optitron not tri color)
8 way power front seats
2 way rear reclining electronic seats
cruise control
immobilizer (G - alarm only)

hope this helps.

and if you decide on the Camry, pila na kayo. months yata waiting time for a unit.

i've seen the accord, interior wise panalo camry, ang gusto ko lang sa accord, yun buttons (for audio) nya sa steering wheel hindi naka usli unlike the camry na ma pindot mo accidentally. while maneuvering. i hope you understand what i mean .

my choice, 2.4V Camry over the Accord.

I have actually seen, up close, a number of 2.4Vs already. It seems to be the most in-demand variant. I've been meaning to look at the base 2.4G, for comparative purposes, but have not had the luck so far. I, too, am impressed with the luxurious interiors and the curvaceous appeal of the new design. It's appeal is buttressed by it winning "Car of the Year" honors, stateside.

[Blackraven]

Kung bibili ka ng bagong Camry, I suggest you go for the 3.5Q version.

For exactly 2M pesos, you get a newer engine (na may Dual VVTI na), 6-speed tranny with manual mode, 2 extra side airbags (aside from the dual airbags), Smart Key with pushbutton start, VSC (bukod sa standard Traction Control) and in-dash 6 CD changer (with MP3/WMA playback support).

If you do want an Accord though, don't buy the current one (it's ugly and poorly-equipped). Hintayin mo nalang yung bagong model na dadating next year.

[powertool]

Sir, in my opinion, stick w/ the V (1.646m)variant P215k difference from the G (1.431m) variant. if you have seen the V variant, ma-turn off kana sa G (base model).

for P215k difference you have th ff:
leather seats beige din (fabric na dumihin beige color)
rear electronic sunshade (G manual sunshade)
tri color optitron guage (G -optitron not tri color)
8 way power front seats
2 way rear reclining electronic seats
cruise control
immobilizer (G - alarm only)

hope this helps.

and if you decide on the Camry, pila na kayo. months yata waiting time for a unit.

i've seen the accord, interior wise panalo camry, ang gusto ko lang sa accord, yun buttons (for audio) nya sa steering wheel hindi naka usli unlike the camry na ma pindot mo accidentally. while maneuvering. i hope you understand what i mean .

my choice, 2.4V Camry over the Accord.

i have to agree, the 2.4v's amenities are well worth the P215k difference and add immeasurably to the luxurious ambience of the car. just to correct, the 2.4v doesn't have tri-color optitron gauges as stated in toyota's brochure. there's supposed to be a button on the left hand side of the instrument cluster to change the color but it is missing on my car...no big deal since it is kind of a cheesy feature for this class.

my current gas mileage city driving (alone most of the time) varies from 5-7km/l. ride is good and handling stable (though i haven't had the chance to really cane it on a twisty stretch yet). my main beef still has to do with the interior squeaks and rattles that have cropped up so soon (1400+kms). there are also some ergonomic flaws (small, unlit central power lock button, inaccessible power mirror controls, oddly angled power window switches blocked by arm rest grab handle) and the engine is smooth but underwhelming (acceleration can best be described as "deliberate").

if you have the means, get a 3.5L version. i doubt it will use that much more fuel (it might even be more economical since the engine can easily cope with the car's weight, which means less mashing of the gas pedal) and the keyless start/stop button adds exotic eurocar sophistication in a car less than half, or even a third the price of similarly sized/equipped euro marques).

still and all, if honda's '08-'09 accord matches the looks of the current camry, i would swap cars in a heartbeat...honda's engineering sophistication (double wishbone vs struts, VTEC variable valve timing AND lift control vs VVTI variable valve timing), excellent build quality and peerless ergonomic excellence trumps toyota in my book. now if only honda stylists could catch up with their engineers...

[camrylover]

Sir, in my opinion, stick w/ the V (1.646m)variant P215k difference from the G (1.431m) variant. if you have seen the V variant, ma-turn off kana sa G (base model).

for P215k difference you have th ff:
leather seats beige din (fabric na dumihin beige color)
rear electronic sunshade (G manual sunshade)
tri color optitron guage (G -optitron not tri color)
8 way power front seats
2 way rear reclining electronic seats
cruise control
immobilizer (G - alarm only)

hope this helps.

and if you decide on the Camry, pila na kayo. months yata waiting time for a unit.

i've seen the accord, interior wise panalo camry, ang gusto ko lang sa accord, yun buttons (for audio) nya sa steering wheel hindi naka usli unlike the camry na ma pindot mo accidentally. while maneuvering. i hope you understand what i mean .

my choice, 2.4V Camry over the Accord.

Ano ung immobilizer?

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[ssaloon]

i'd go for a pearl white camry. 3.5Q if budget permits