Honda City 2000 vs Ford Lynx Ghia 2000

[driver4ever]

Need some expert advice on these 2 cars, with these details:

Honda City Type Z Lxi 1.3 2000
1. silver
2. MT
3. owners: 2
4. mileage: 33k
5. price: P255,000 (fixed) (free transfer of ownership)


Ford Lynx Ghia 2000
1. silver
2. MT
3. owners: 1
4. mileage: 77k
6. price: P280,000 (negotiable)

[mazdamazda]

I'll go with the Lynx. Bigger car & engine.

[driver4ever]

In terms of fuel efficiency, malaki ba difference nila? I'm not sure of the engine of Ford Lynx (I think 1.6li) , but City is 1.3li. Is the difference in fuel savings big enough to be considered?

[caloyski5]

lynx too. . alam ko yata kung sino nagbebenta ng lynx a. hehehe

kung siya nga, maingat yan and marunong mag alaga ng car ;)

[driver4ever]

lynx too. . alam ko yata kung sino nagbebenta ng lynx a. hehehe

kung siya nga, maingat yan and marunong mag alaga ng car ;)

I saw that ad most probably here at tsikot.com. Will check out the car perhaps over the weekend. I hope the car's ok.

[Bry]

Between your choices, sa Lynx ako. Try to look at other choices though.

[driver4ever]

Guys, please help me further.

The Ford Lynx has been repriced at 270,000. I'm a bit worried about the difference in the engine. (City's 1.3 li vs Lynx's 1.6) Will Lynx be a gas guzzler if that's the case? I've seen the City (na test drive na din) and ok naman sya except for the fact na nakaka-2 owners na sya (though low mileage at 33,000 km). As for the Ford, I haven't seen the actual unit.


Hope to hear from you soon!

[bajumbo]

Sir suggest ko check mo sa casa ung Honda kung napapa PM nga sya.... if ever maayos ung records nya sa casa ok un( I mean di pa ba sya nagkakaroon din ng mga major repairs) low mileage ang nice fuel efficiency. Un nga lang maliit sya lalo na compared sa bagong City today.

[an0nim0us]

I suggest you personally check and test drive both units. meron thread dito on how to check a 2nd hand car, dami ka makukuha info dun.

now as for the direct comparison of those two cars -

sigurando yung city eh mas matipid, kasi 1.3 yun, i dont have the figure for that but for the 1.6 lynx, that's roughly 8 - 9 km/li city.

Problems(?) experienced on the city: (from a city owner friend)
- sound insulation is below standard, road noice is more pronounced.
- being a 1.3 car, it's relatively less robust (compared to the lynx at least), and so driving will be less exciting.
- aircon bogged down on the 4 year.
- no power mirrors
- the HU is jsut basic cassette/radio (baka naman pinalitan na to ng better unit nung previous owner?)
- imo, the car simply is just not that appealing (no offense to city owners)

problems experienced on the lynx 3 years and beyond:
- Cam position sensor (that's almost 7k pesos to replace, tho, some say its just 3k or 5K, baka nga mahal lang sa ford makati)
- leaking shock absorber pero wala naman kalampag, but i replaced it anyway and costs 3000 per pc for the front.
- this intermittent problem with the clutch, sometimes, parang ayaw mag-disengage and thus ayaw pumasok yung kambio. I took the car to the casa and they said it's ok naman. and so i personally adjusted the clutch, sa pedal, itinaas ko ng konti ayun, ok na! cost = 1 glass of drinking water. hehe
- the driver's side window na pabalik-balik, ayaw sumara if the auto close is used(happens more often than not). I tried every trick i know (sprayed silicon around the rubber guides and the glass edges, wd/40 on the mechanism), but not yet tried taking it to the casa (stupid me hehe), neway, its not really a big problem as seldom ko naman buksan yung windows and if you use the manual 'click' ok naman syan, hindi bumabalik. I think this has something to do with its safety feature on anti jam protection. cost so far = 280 pesos for the silicon spray (per halos wala pa bawas yung spray and magagamit ko pa sa iba yun)
- annoying rattling sound sa interior, it took me months to look for this! the culprit, its the center arm rest console cover, here's what i did, nilagyan ko ng adhesive foam yung portion na with contact sa metal hinge. solve! cost = 15 pesos.

I think that's about it, mind you tho, these are not major problems ('cept for the sensor) and may easily be repaired/fixed. and the superb driveability of the car and the enjoyment you can get from it far outweighs these minor kinks. IMO, from a second-hand buyer's perspective, the lynx is a very good choice, better than the city, you get more value for your money.

[mfo]

Lynx baby!!!

[niky]

Yup... the CPS is cheaper in some cases. Other members have had it fixed for under 5k at other casas. The factor, I think is in the amount of time the mechanic takes (per hour ang service charging).

And many Lynx owners swear by Fordland in Banaue for those shocks and other parts.

[driver4ever]

Yup... the CPS is cheaper in some cases. Other members have had it fixed for under 5k at other casas. The factor, I think is in the amount of time the mechanic takes (per hour ang service charging).

And many Lynx owners swear by Fordland in Banaue for those shocks and other parts.

Is it true that they are no longer making Ford Lynxs? So if I get a 2000 model, will I have problems later on in terms of availability of spare parts? Well, as compared to the City which is still very much in the market...

Help please....

[chris_d]

I'd pick the lynx.

On the other hand, bakit parang ang baba ng mileage ng city? 33k pa lang? maganda cguro check mo sa casa records nyan just to be sure.

[111prez]

driver4ever:

bro, i got your PM and sent you a reply already

[driver4ever]

I'd pick the lynx.

On the other hand, bakit parang ang baba ng mileage ng city? 33k pa lang? maganda cguro check mo sa casa records nyan just to be sure.

I just a few questions:
1. If the car is a company car and has been casa-maintained, how do I find out about the records? Do I ask seller directly?

2. If a car is sold in those "buy and sell used cars", how do I find out the maintenance records if I haven't personally met the owner? The Honda City I'm considering is sold by "someone" who is not the owner, and I'm not so sure how to go about it. Help! As for the Lynx, I've personnaly met the owner.

[niky]

You can ask if the car was casa maintained and then ask for the logbook. It should be your right as a buyer.

As regards the availability of parts, Ford seems to be in the Philippines for the long haul. Their casa service is okay, and prices are competitive with other casas. But if worst comes to worst (worldwide collapse of Ford, which is pretty remote at this point, despite financial woes), there ought to be Lynx parts for at least another ten years through aftermarket retailers such as Fordland. You just have to know where to look. Kahit nga yung Mazda, bumagsak ang dealer networks nung 90's, marami pang shops na nagbebenta ng Mazda parts, at may mga casa na nag-se-service sa Mazda.

But if we're talking Daewoo or Opel... well... (although I'm informed that there are options for Opel Astra owners, also)

[mazdamazda]

Is it true that they are no longer making Ford Lynxs? So if I get a 2000 model, will I have problems later on in terms of availability of spare parts? Well, as compared to the City which is still very much in the market...

Help please....

the Lynx has already been discontinued and has been replaced by the Focus.

er... so does the City that you are looking at. the current City is a different vehicle from the Type Z that you are looking at.

[driver4ever]

the Lynx has already been discontinued and has been replaced by the Focus.

er... so does the City that you are looking at. the current City is a different vehicle from the Type Z that you are looking at.

The 2000 City Type Z Lxi we were eyeing on was already sold, just yesterday. So that leaves me with the Lynx alone. Now I just have to make final decision if I will get the Lynx or not.

[basti08]

Lynx...hands down...i dont like the coach class accomodations of the gen1 city/type z.

[bhongskie636]

Get the Lynx!

OT: how can I prevent the Cam position sensor malfunction on my lynx? Any tips? No problems so far on my lynx but it helps to anticipate some major problems and perhaps find a way to work around it as a preventive measure.