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    April 6th, 2017 05:16 AM #1
    2006 Mitsubishi Pajero CK 3.8 V6 108T kms 550T
    2012 Subaru Forester 2.0 50T kms 620T

    For use as a work vehicle going to farm areas with seasonal muddy roads ... just light offroading ... 300-500 kms weekly drive ... 20% city drive, 70% highway, 10% farm roads ...

    How is the driving dynamics of the Pajero CK on road? ... How is the highway fuel consumption of the 3.8 liter V6? ... the main concern with the Subaru Forester is the maintenance cost and the parts availability ...

    What do you think guys (and gals)? ...
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    April 6th, 2017 01:40 PM #2
    Not really a fan of bringing CUVs for light off roading, especially the fozzie. Suspension parts are abit expensive from the casa and you'd end up with a sagging rear if you go for KYBs although fusion R might have a solution for it.. I'd rather go with PPVs.

    I hope you find other options aside from these two. Neighbor was selling me a 2006 fort previously owned by an expat for 600ish.

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    April 6th, 2017 02:22 PM #3
    Gas lang ba talaga ang gusto? Meron na sigurong Everest 3.04x4 for 600+k.

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    April 6th, 2017 06:14 PM #4
    Not fond of the looks of previous gen Ford Everest ... will get the Subaru Forester SH ... better handling and driving dynamics ... 90% of the time is on road ... will just thread lightly off road ... they're paved roads ... that get damaged during rainy season ...
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    April 6th, 2017 06:26 PM #5
    I suppose the Everest is somewhat of an acquired taste in the looks department. Olx tells me that the Montero 3.2 also fits your budget though. Since you mentioned that this would be a workhorse vehicle, IMHO a more common model ladder frame vehicle with lots of spare parts and widespread mechanic familiarity would be more ideal.

    It looks like you have your heart set on the Forester already. The 2.0 NA only has 150hp though, and permanent AWD means unremarkable FC with the so-so engine performance. Perhaps you can find an XT. If you keep a light foot on the gas, FC should not be far off and you get loads of power on tap.

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    April 7th, 2017 01:26 PM #6
    Diesel SUVs / PPVs do not have good value when buying used ... they have high resale values so there's not much depreciation ... Planning to get a Ford Everest, the Subaru Forester is just an interim vehicle while waiting ... Also considering the Mazda CX-5 but there's the transmission failure issue that's hounding it ...
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    April 8th, 2017 12:32 AM #7
    Quote Originally Posted by Walter View Post
    Diesel SUVs / PPVs do not have good value when buying used ... they have high resale values so there's not much depreciation ... Planning to get a Ford Everest, the Subaru Forester is just an interim vehicle while waiting ... Also considering the Mazda CX-5 but there's the transmission failure issue that's hounding it ...
    wag ka na bumili ng subaru. force subaru to sell diesel cars dito sa philippnes
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    April 7th, 2017 02:03 PM #8
    When I looked at the Forester ads in Olx, I noticed that the market price for the 2.0X and 2.5XT are almost the same! Did you see this one? 21 Subaru Forester XT turbo variant for sale | *******

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    April 7th, 2017 06:47 PM #9
    How much do you love replacing head gaskets?

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    April 7th, 2017 07:10 PM #10
    Quote Originally Posted by niky View Post
    How much do you love replacing head gaskets?
    I doubt anyone loves doing it as much as you do.

    But the Pajero gets my vote. The 3.8L should give you around 8km/L given the conditions described.
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    April 7th, 2017 07:22 PM #11
    Quote Originally Posted by vinj View Post
    I doubt anyone loves doing it as much as you do.

    But the Pajero gets my vote. The 3.8L should give you around 8km/L given the conditions described.
    Hey, never done it twice on the same car... erh... okay... on the last Sentra twice, but different engines.

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    April 8th, 2017 09:41 AM #12
    Quote Originally Posted by niky View Post
    How much do you love replacing head gaskets?

    Head gaskets? Subaru Forester or the Mitsubishi Pajero V6?
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    April 8th, 2017 09:46 AM #13
    Quote Originally Posted by GTi View Post
    When I looked at the Forester ads in Olx, I noticed that the market price for the 2.0X and 2.5XT are almost the same! Did you see this one? 2�1� Subaru Forester XT turbo variant for sale | *******

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    TOTL variants of most vehicles depreciate faster ... look at 2012 Ford Explorer 3.5 and 2.0 ... People who buy used are looking for something cheap to acquire and cheap to maintain ... TOTL variants sometimes have larger engines and consume more fuel plus additional maintenance cost ...

    That ad is for a 2010 pre-facelift Subaru Forester XT ... if buying an SH Forester best to get 2011 2012 facelifted model ... they get the newer FB20 engine which is also being used by the current gen Forester ...
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    April 8th, 2017 12:12 PM #14
    Looks like you've made up your mind. Which reminds me, my boss uses his xtrail to plow through his farm heheh.

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    April 8th, 2017 05:22 PM #15
    Quote Originally Posted by Calistro View Post
    Looks like you've made up your mind. Which reminds me, my boss uses his xtrail to plow through his farm heheh.
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    Getting more and more confused ... Does anyone here have fuel consumption data on the Pajero Gen 3 V6 3.8 liter? ... Is it even remotely possible to squeeze 10 km / liter? ...

    Forester ... Pajero ... CX-5 ... Everest ... to be or not to be, that confuses me ...
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    April 8th, 2017 05:43 PM #16
    Quote Originally Posted by Walter View Post
    Getting more and more confused ... Does anyone here have fuel consumption data on the Pajero Gen 3 V6 3.8 liter? ... Is it even remotely possible to squeeze 10 km / liter? ...

    Forester ... Pajero ... CX-5 ... Everest ... to be or not to be, that confuses me ...
    I think this drinks fuel like theres no tomorrow. 5km/l maybe? 20l/100 because of the traffic?



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    April 8th, 2017 05:46 PM #17
    The 2012 Subaru Forester 2.5 XT seems like a better value than the 2.0 XS ... hmmmmm ...
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    April 8th, 2017 06:04 PM #18
    Quote Originally Posted by Walter View Post
    The 2012 Subaru Forester 2.5 XT seems like a better value than the 2.0 XS ... hmmmmm ...
    If buying used, both models would be priced similarly so might as well get the one with the better engine and more features. Fuel consumption would not be that far off between models.
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    April 8th, 2017 12:17 PM #19
    ^AFAIK only the current gen has the 2.0 turbo engine. This is a facelifted 2012 SH and its still a 2.5 http://www.*******/item/2012-subaru-f...o-ID7SpH9.html

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    April 8th, 2017 12:45 PM #20
    😆😆 Pampagulo lang since you mentioned that this is an interim vehicle and that you are getting a new Everest soon.

    http://www.*******/item/2007-suzuki-g...1-ID7TQWS.html 2.7V6 engine, 4x4, proper ladder frame chassis, seems to be in good condition and at only 300+k. Since you spent less getting this, you'd be getting your new Everest sooner...?

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