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    #21
    Quote Originally Posted by ronald_m View Post
    I thought the new audi a4 has 2.0T and 3.0 V6 engine.
    I believe those new higher end engines are currently not yet available in Audi's local A4 lineup.

    The old 163PS 20v 1.8T slots below the 200PS 2.0 TFSI engine and above the 1.8-derived 130PS 20v 2.0 engine in Audi's global A4 lineup.

    In some markets like in the US for example, the A4 lineup start with the 200PS 2.0 TFSI as the base engine.

    About the V6 A4, the new A4 has a 255PS 3.2 liter FSI V6(currently not available in the RP), this replaces the old A4's 220PS 3.0 V6.

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    #22
    2.85m can get you an Evo 9, STi, or '02-'03 German midsize .

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    #23
    i'd get the bmw


    1) Ultimate Driving Machine
    2) BMW Philippines Support
    3) Parts are easier to source out (not saying in-expensive)
    4) More Dealers = Service
    5) It's been voted number 1 in its class all over the world against merc and audis

    so bmw it is

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    #24
    Quote Originally Posted by mdc View Post
    i'd get the bmw


    1) Ultimate Driving Machine
    2) BMW Philippines Support
    3) Parts are easier to source out (not saying in-expensive)
    4) More Dealers = Service
    5) It's been voted number 1 in its class all over the world against merc and audis

    so bmw it is
    I agree...

    Add to that, Resale value
    Last edited by Camgen6; August 16th, 2006 at 02:57 AM.

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    #25
    Ako Audi naman para maiba.

    Kahit 1.8T na luma basta quattro. Ayaw ko nung Front-Trak. Teka di ba 170hp yung last na lumabas na 1.8T bago naging 2.0T?

    Tapos chip upgrade/ECU remap. Hehe.

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    #26
    Quote Originally Posted by the_wildthing View Post
    Ako Audi naman para maiba.

    Kahit 1.8T na luma basta quattro. Ayaw ko nung Front-Trak. Teka di ba 170hp yung last na lumabas na 1.8T bago naging 2.0T?
    The A4's 1.8T produces 163PS and its still in production as a lower model to the 200PS 2.0 TFSI (Turbo).
    Some countries like the US upgraded their A4 lineup by dropping the lower end 1.8T models in favor of the stronger 200PS 2.0 TFSI.
    Last edited by AG4; August 16th, 2006 at 03:26 AM.

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    #27
    I'm quite skeptic about the 320i's modest power at only 150 bhp. From a class-leader in engine technology, I certainly expected much more than that output. For one thing, the 320d makes 163 bhp, thus translating to better performance and of course, fuel economy. Unfortunately though, the diesel isn't available here yet.

    As for the Audi, I'm definitely not paying 3M for this. Heck, you can buy 2 Mazda 6s with this price. It looks very nice like the quad-circle German, has just about the same power and more space being the bigger car. Reliability should also be better. If you have 3M and want pure performance, buy an Evo or WRX.

    Going back to the Bimmer, I still find 2.85M too pricey even for a car that's very fun to drive. The 320i, again with anonymous power, won't outrun an SiR or any current midsize 4-cylinder Jap car. It may have more space than its predecessors, but it still won't be comfortable seating 3 at the back even in short trips. I also doubt if there are cupholders in this model. So even if it's a BMW, it's still not the best thing your money can buy. If it were the 330i at the same price, now BMW is talking!

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    #28
    Well, the point of the base Bimmers and Audis is not to be fastest in class.

    Definitely not best value, compared to some of the terrific Japanese / American cars coming out now (Accord, Camry, Focus, Mazda6, etcetera), but they're still exclusive.

    RE: Audi or Bimmer? Both have their electrical gremlin issues. I'm wondering about the tractability of Audi's hot turbos in our weather, also... I've seen at least one 1.8T overheat here... but it could be because the guy upped his boost too far...

    Thus, for reliability, not much to choose from, but BMW's has supposedly been getting better as of late. Their most problematic cars now are the Minis, actually.

    My choice? A Ford Focus 2.0. :lol: Feels quite European.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    #29
    e90 na rin ako

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    #30
    sirs, ano po yung fuel economy ng BMW 320i? Yung fuel mileage ba sa brochures is for real?

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