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    Having overhauled recently a Camry 2.4L (overheated and neglected by one of the drivers), and having done suspension repairs to it (its now 110,000kms and 7 years old), I can say its quite straightforward to repair and parts are available. Its running good and reliably now. When looking at a second hand unit, check the engine for any signs of overheating and do a compression test; aux fan failure seems to be a culprit as the same ish hit the Rav4 of a friend with the same engine.

    I'd still seriously consider an Xtrail though; a 250X (with a Skyline system based 4-wheel drive AFAIR) and beefy 18 rims/tyres.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vinj View Post
    Having overhauled recently a Camry 2.4L (overheated and neglected by one of the drivers), and having done suspension repairs to it (its now 110,000kms and 7 years old), I can say its quite straightforward to repair and parts are available. Its running good and reliably now. When looking at a second hand unit, check the engine for any signs of overheating and do a compression test; aux fan failure seems to be a culprit as the same ish hit the Rav4 of a friend with the same engine.

    I'd still seriously consider an Xtrail though; a 250X (with a Skyline system based 4-wheel drive AFAIR) and beefy 18 rims/tyres.
    Salamat sir! Galing ng inputs nyo. Regarding the xtrail, 04-05 only has 200x and 250x as its variants, right? Yes, im seriously considering it sir. Tipong 55% camry 45% xtrail

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    Baka mas makamura ka sa xtrail? Since lower resale value ng nissans.

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    saka being practical din sir, mas mataas un Xtrail advantage sa baha, sa akin lang naman un hehehehe, final choice pa din nasa iyo, maganda din un Camry, if you're considering un 200x mag 250x ka na lang sir

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ponkan View Post
    saka being practical din sir, mas mataas un Xtrail advantage sa baha, sa akin lang naman un hehehehe, final choice pa din nasa iyo, maganda din un Camry, if you're considering un 200x mag 250x ka na lang sir
    Good point sir. Ive been getting comments nga na whichever one i get, choose the 250x or 2.4v daw. Hindi po ba too much impractical yun with the current gas prices and traffic situation lately? Plan ko pa naman mag 18's on either, then konting drop para magka porma lang ng onti yung tayo.

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    When using midsizers or petrol CUVs, FC will take a step back against comfort or style or preference. True that there are more fuel efficient petrol CUVs now but we still see a lot of people driving around with their 2nd gen CRVs, Escapes, RAV4s, Tributes, or Xtrails and these vehicles are not really on top of the list for fuel efficiency. The same thing goes for people driving daily with their Accords, Galants, Cefiros, Camrys or Mazda6.

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    Same price lang sila boss Leo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jp923 View Post
    Salamat sir! Galing ng inputs nyo. Regarding the xtrail, 04-05 only has 200x and 250x as its variants, right? Yes, im seriously considering it sir. Tipong 55% camry 45% xtrail
    At this point, look at both units second hand and go for the one that gives the best deal and preferably, original paint and a first owner is the one selling. My take on the fuel consumption is that the difference between the 2.4L/2.5L versus the 2.0L will not be that far off anymore, especially if you drive with a light foot. Try to confirm with actual owners.

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    just my 2 cents...

    I have the camry 2.4 (though with the 5 speed)... its my daily driver in traffic, so the 5 speed does not really matter... I get 6Km/L daily QC-makati rush hour...

    My brother had the Xtrail 250X... also a daily driver... same route... camry gets better mileage... in addtion, the nissan is particular with 95octane... big difference with mileage.

    Camry is more refined... im very particular with sound proofing.. which the Xtrail somehow lacks... even the doors are light

    Though as a Toy Car, xtrail is very nice... was already thinking of large tires, light bars, etc....

    Really a tough choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cta2 View Post
    just my 2 cents...

    I have the camry 2.4 (though with the 5 speed)... its my daily driver in traffic, so the 5 speed does not really matter... I get 6Km/L daily QC-makati rush hour...

    My brother had the Xtrail 250X... also a daily driver... same route... camry gets better mileage... in addtion, the nissan is particular with 95octane... big difference with mileage.

    Camry is more refined... im very particular with sound proofing.. which the Xtrail somehow lacks... even the doors are light

    Though as a Toy Car, xtrail is very nice... was already thinking of large tires, light bars, etc....

    Really a tough choice.
    The Camry is very particular sa insulation. Nung natatanggal yung parang rubber lining sa door windows ng Camry ng Grandpa, umingay sya sobra sa highway. At matikas din sa baha. I was once caught in Banawe-Retiro intersection in a bumper high flood, yakang-yaka. :p Isa pa, halos walang vibrations ang Camry, try putting it in 'N', place your hands in the steering wheel and rev it hard. You won't feel anything. Entry ownership talaga is the 2.0G, pero if kaya mo yung facelifted 2.4V mas OK yun kasi power front and rear seats na din.

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    Quote Originally Posted by basti08 View Post
    The Camry is very particular sa insulation. Nung natatanggal yung parang rubber lining sa door windows ng Camry ng Grandpa, umingay sya sobra sa highway. At matikas din sa baha. I was once caught in Banawe-Retiro intersection in a bumper high flood, yakang-yaka. :p Isa pa, halos walang vibrations ang Camry, try putting it in 'N', place your hands in the steering wheel and rev it hard. You won't feel anything. Entry ownership talaga is the 2.0G, pero if kaya mo yung facelifted 2.4V mas OK yun kasi power front and rear seats na din.
    To add, have taken my 2.0G along Pasong tamo in muffler deep water. Ok naman, though di ko na uulitin for the muffler's sake. And you're right, minimum to no vibrations when in 'N'. Have a little in mine though coz of the broken engine support. But still, very smooth despite that. The 2.0G and 2.4V are identical except for the engine, IIRC.

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    If you're using this daily, it might be more practical to get the X-Trail especially now that flooding and huge potholes caused by dissolved asphalt is the norm.

    We have two 7th gen Accord's. One 2.4 and one 3.0. Compared to the Camry 2.4V of a family friend, I find the Camry's ride very floaty, almost reminiscent of an Expedition, while the Accord feels very much connected to the ground although bumps are still very well filtered. It seems to be rather lacking in features, though it is definitely an excellent car to be driven around in. I find this model's design quite timeless too, ageing more gracefully even than the model that replaced it.

    I'd suggest you consider the Accord too. It is an entirely different model from the 6th gen Accord, with newer engines and platform. With a light foot, the 2.4 gets around 6-7km/L in its daily commute of Timog QC to Ugong Valenzuela via Mindanao Ave. I find the interior of better quality than the Camry's, especially the switchgear. The 5 speed A/T is a very willing companion, downshifting and upshifting as needed with very little hesitation. Handling is excellent despite the heft, and power, though not class leading by today's standards, is by no means lacking. With this model you already get auto climate control, steering wheel mounted audio controls and front power seats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leodawesome View Post
    Kapag yung cheapest gas (91 octane?) for me wala yung neck-snapping hatak at hirap sa overtakes. So i always load up higher octanes depende kung mura yung blaze.
    For some reason, all our Nissans always loved 95 octane fuel that's why we always used XCS.

    Quote Originally Posted by basti08 View Post
    The Camry is very particular sa insulation.
    Toyotas in general have good insulation. When i would compare my Altis and Civic side-by-side back when i had both cars in the garage, it was really noticeable; all the more when i get off the Camry or Corolla then drive the Civic.

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    QG series din yung engine ng XTrail so 95RON talaga preference nyan.

    It's really a hard comparison between the two models and each one has its own strengths/weaknesses. How about we equalize the comparison? A 2004 Camry vs a 2004 Cefiro A33? or the Xtrail against a similarly aged RAV4? Midsize to midsize, CUV to CUV. Midsizers have better insulation, better interior space, and geared towards comfort. The CUVs have the bigger rear cargo hold, stiffer ride, and more ground clearance.

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