The 1.5M Peso SUV Comparo

[pup2]

+1...

Sir, may point po kayo. Sa ngayon hindi po talaga subok ang Hyundai kaya mas maganda malaman muna sa mga ibang owners kung may improvements na ba sa reliability.

Mag-CR-V na lang po kayo. Subok na matibay na ay Honda pa. Mataas ang resale value.

I believe the SF's improved rep was based on the good reliability ratings from abroad as well as the much-improved reliability of other Hundai vehicles, notably the Starex Gen 3, PLUS its new 5-year warranty. Surely, one wouldn't extend a warranty for a vehicle with systematic problems ala Protest Against Isuzu Trooper or Toyota D4D woes.

[hominid]

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I juust noticed na medyo malaki din ang kaibahan ng tastes ng tsikoteers at ng madla.

I would say mas well informed ang mga tsikoteers kesa sa madla. At marami sa madla baka hindi pa alam ang SF.

[Armando888]

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I would say mas well informed ang mga tsikoteers kesa sa madla. At marami sa madla baka hindi pa alam ang SF.

^^^ Sir sabihin mo na this Thread is dominated by SF owners who like to build the image of Hyundai. Tsikoters are only partial about 1% lang compared sa overall SUV buyers. Natural mas maraming nakakaalam sa madla kaysa Tsikoters. insight ko lang naman sir

[Armando888]

Jan to Sep 2007 Cumulative Sales Figures (arranged from 1st to 10th)

Rank---- Make & Model------- Cumulative
1------- Toyota Fortuner----- 5109
2------- Honda CR-V ---------2984
3------- Ford Everest-------- 1542
4 -------Hyundai Santa Fe---- 718
5 -------Isuzu Alterra--------- 615
6 -------Toyota RAV4--------- 528
7 -------Mitsubishi Outlander-- 206
8 -------Suzuki Grand Vitara-- 169
9 -------Kia Sorento---------- 168
10 ------Mitsubishi Montero ----31

Sir ito ang figures o kumpara sa data sa chart. laki ng difference e.

Kaya suggestion ko lang to future buyers, test drive na muna yung trip nila bago magcompare. ibaiba naman taste ng tao e. depende na rin sa requirements.

[Armando888]

new 5-year warranty. Surely, one wouldn't extend a warranty for a vehicle with systematic problems

Sir, obvious naman na ang reason nila for extending the warranty is to attract customers para magkaroon ang customer nila ng confidence sa Hyundai products.

Do you ever wonder why the new Starex is overpriced? Siguro computed na nila kung magkano aabutin after 5 years ang mga possibleng masira na components sa unit kaya they charge it in unit sales. baka ganun din sa Santa Fe kaya overprice...

Peace!

[pup2]

Sir, obvious naman na ang reason nila for extending the warranty is to attract customers para magkaroon ang customer nila ng confidence sa Hyundai products.

Do you ever wonder why the new Starex is overpriced? Siguro computed na nila kung magkano aabutin after 5 years ang mga possibleng masira na components sa unit kaya they charge it in unit sales. baka ganun din sa Santa Fe kaya overprice...

Peace!

I agree! Wala naman akong nakikitang masama doon sa first paragraph. Yung sa second paragraph naman, puwede din -- kaya nga dumadami ang miyembro ng EFG4HSOC. Hehehe. Our family nga shifted from the Starex to the Stavic.

Pero as vans go, we had a relatively good experience with our 3 previous starexes. The point is NOT that they're so good that they deserve a premium. The point is that they ARE good enough not to be dismissed off hand. Specially since the SF seems like a good value proposition -- features/price wise.

As for Tsikot, if only for the free exchange of feedback, I'd say its members are somewhat better off than the masses. The problem is that people are resistant to change and are often limited in the opinions they are able to gather unless may traumatic incident.

Test driving helps (and I believe most members are advocates of this). Pero kung isa lang na test drive mo, at ingrained pa din ang biases mo, wala pa din. Yung tatay ko lang was STILL wanting to get a Starex despite its new CONS simply because komportable sa tao ang magpatuloy lang sa pamilyar. Unless may magsasabi sa iyo ng PROS and CONS ng bawa't sasakyan, mahirap magbago.

If ever, ang masasabi ko lang sa tsikot is that it actually makes buying a new vehicle harder than ever. Kasi kung dati ay happy ka na na madali lang ang desisyon, ngayon you'll be second guessing yourself a LOT!

[CoDer]

My choices if I'm in the market for one.

1. Hyundai Santa Fe
2. Ford Everest 4x4
3. Toyota Fortuner

lol on hideous monstrosity!

[Syuryuken]

I would say mas well informed ang mga tsikoteers kesa sa madla. At marami sa madla baka hindi pa alam ang SF.

+1

yung may-ari nga ng automotive school dito hindi pa niya alam kung anong brand ang Santa Fe pero may starex siya dati

very popular sa kanya ang Toyota, Mitsu, Nissan, Isuzu.

[Jameson168]

Well, let set our feeling aside... lets be objective. I am not a car guru and here are my opinions.

I'll separate the list from gas to diesel

Diesel
Toyota Fortuner (D4D) - matagtag daw... haven't rode one pero yun ang feedback. pero ok yun porma at yun height. D4D no problem, mahina sa horse power pero pag nasa loob ka na malakas naman cya. (wala ako Fortuner pero may Innova ako at Starex, kaya alam ko yun power ng 2 at almost the same naman hindi ka bibitinin sa overtake)

Hyundai Santa Fe (CRDI) - practical since advanced yun engine nya

Isuzu Alterra - luma na din.. D-Max nalang ako. ok sana kaso mahal

Kia Sorento - luma na hindi ba mag lalabas ng bago?

Ford Everest - performance no comment. looks parang luma

Mitsubishi Montero - no comment haven't tried one.

Gas Option
Mitsubishi Outlander - maporma, sports SUV, d ba malakas sa gas yun 2.4?

Toyota Rav4 4x2 - overprised at kahawig ng lumang labas na lumaki

Honda CR-V 4x4 - maganda yun loob, matipid daw yun 2.0 sa gas. hindi ko type yun labas, anyway saan ba ako uupo sa loob ba or labas.

Subaru Forester XT - yun 2002 model ok sarap i drive yun bago haven't see one.

Suzuki Grand Vitara V6 - no comment, haven't seen one.

*When I say no comment hindi ko pa nasusubukan. Personal opinion lang po. sorry kung yun iba kulang sa details.

[pup2]

May kanya kanyang thread na po yata itong mga suv/cuv na ito ...

[yuichi]

Sir ito ang figures o kumpara sa data sa chart. laki ng difference e.

Kaya suggestion ko lang to future buyers, test drive na muna yung trip nila bago magcompare. ibaiba naman taste ng tao e. depende na rin sa requirements.

yes testdrive, and how much of those 5,000 plus Fortuner buyers did it with the car? and again, the sales went high because of "madla's perception".