1.3 AT Cars

[JACKSON]

CMIIW you still have to change your oil filter and top up your oil every 5k even when using synthetic.

Picanto gets my vote. It's small and easy to park especially where space is at a premium aka school.

I beg to disagree. Honda's PMS interval is every 10k kms, no need to change oil filter and top up every 5k kms.

[F-14]

I beg to disagree. Honda's PMS interval is every 10k kms, no need to change oil filter and top up every 5k kms.

Its good for Honda as what you claim!
For mitsu & other brand are not.

[tsupermario]

IMHO lang, i would'nt consider small cars for my daughter, PUV's tend to bully small vehicles.

horn upgrade is an option.

[renzo_d10]

horn upgrade is an option.

Definitely.

Masyadong masagwa at mahina ang busina ng stock.

Pip-pip. As if naman makakakuha ng attention yun. :hysterical:

[JACKSON]

Its good for Honda as what you claim!
For mitsu & other brand are not.

Well if you back read in page one, the 10,000 pms interval was given as an advantage to the Jazz by GTi, that is why he's vote goes to that car, so definitely we're talking about a Honda

[F-14]

Well if you back read in page one, the 10,000 pms interval was given as an advantage to the Jazz by GTi, that is why he's vote goes to that car, so definitely we're talking about a Honda

No!
If you just read, the Thread talks about "1.3 AT Cars", & some suggestion to smallest car because TS is concern also to FC!

But, this doesnt mean the topic becomes a Honda because it is a vote of majority for this Thread.

PMS exist as an issue for me because you beg to disagree the 5K PMS using synthetic oil for Honda!? I dont contest for what you claim, rarther I was puzzled since mitsu & other brand do have 5K PMS.

My question (not ask) is off the topic, so we better help TS (single ma) for her problem.

[JACKSON]

No!
If you just read, the Thread talks about "1.3 AT Cars", & some suggestion to smallest car because TS is concern also to FC!

But, this doesnt mean the topic becomes a Honda because it is a vote of majority for this Thread.

PMS exist as an issue for me because you beg to disagree the 5K PMS using synthetic oil for Honda!? I dont contest for what you claim, rarther I was puzzled since mitsu & other brand do have 5K PMS.

My question (not ask) is off the topic, so we better help TS (single ma) for her problem.

ok whatever you say boss!

Anyway, back to topic my vote goes to city, good interior good fc and imho good maintainance cost (Honda's advantage of having 10k kms pms interval). Jazz is also good but priced higher. Forget about the vios, cheap interior is really a turn off.

When buying bnew vehicle one should also consider pms cost, I learned it the hard way hehe FC is good but PMS is way overpriced.

[spotdog11]

My vote goes to the jazz. The interior space on this car is really amazing and is almost as big as a compact suv. It is fuel efficient and honda's quality is superior. The PMS interval of every 10K kilometers is a big plus also. The vios is ok but its just too plain...parang basic car na lang talaga. The 1.3 sentra A/T is highly underpowered and has a really bad fuel consumption so I suggest it should not be considered at all.

[basti08]

I doubt that 10K pms interval. Maybe Honda is mandatorily using Synthetic Motor Oil which extends another 5000 kms on PMS. But then again, even on Vios and Sentra, using synthetic makes oil changes another 5000kms less frequent. So, i dont necessarily see an advantage here.

The Jazz 1.3AT gets my vote though. Dual airbags, ABS, 4w disc brakes should be more than enough to protect your daughter

[jmpet626]

I doubt that 10K pms interval. Maybe Honda is mandatorily using Synthetic Motor Oil which extends another 5000 kms on PMS. But then again, even on Vios and Sentra, using synthetic makes oil changes another 5000kms less frequent. So, i dont necessarily see an advantage here.

The Jazz 1.3AT gets my vote though. Dual airbags, ABS, 4w disc brakes should be more than enough to protect your daughter

10k or 6 months whichever comes first. Ako hindi naman umaabot ng 10k within 6 months so Semi Synth lang gamit ko noon. Yung Iridium Plugs na gamit ng Jazz sa 5 years or 100k pa papalitan so matipid din. Yung regular PMS more on Change oil, Brake cleaning lang ginagawa yung Cabin Air Filter at Air cleaner every 20k.

[spotdog11]

The new swift is also a nice car to consider. I think it's price is very close to the 1.3 A/T jazz. Interior quality is good and it feels like a more expensive car to drive. It has great handling and is quite sporty. The 1.4 engine is powerful and passenger space is sufficient. I also like the look of the stock rims. However, luggage space is very small. The swift has only two variants, the 1.4 M/T and the 1.4 A/T. So, it feels like having a top of the line car. Hehehe.

[burjegol]

to the TS,

ma'am, I would not recommend to get a vios for your daughter. the reason?





Most vehicle accidents na nakita ko involves a vios and a girl driver. kaya malaki kasalanan ng vios, since being an easier car to handle, the driver becomes confident enough to text or apply her make up while driving

[shibby75]

the main reason for the bad statistcsis that the vios is a best seller. it sold so/well that almost everyone has one.

parang yung analogy na bakit lahat ng bike accidents are honda xrm and waves, why not a suzuki skydrive?

[niky]

The Vios has stable handling and good brakes. That it gets into many accidents is just reflective of the fact that there are a lot of Vioses on the road with careless drivers.

I doubt that 10K pms interval. Maybe Honda is mandatorily using Synthetic Motor Oil which extends another 5000 kms on PMS. But then again, even on Vios and Sentra, using synthetic makes oil changes another 5000kms less frequent. So, i dont necessarily see an advantage here.

The Jazz 1.3AT gets my vote though. Dual airbags, ABS, 4w disc brakes should be more than enough to protect your daughter

The engine has to be designed for it. Look at the people who are having problems with sludge on Toyota Altises when switching to the 10,000 kilometer interval on synthetics.

That said... it all depends on usage... if it's all highway driving during those 10,000 kilometers (on synthetics, provided you change filters at 5,000 kilometers), it should be okay. If it's all traffic driving, better not to risk it.

[basti08]

The Vios has stable handling and good brakes. That it gets into many accidents is just reflective of the fact that there are a lot of Vioses on the road with careless drivers.



The engine has to be designed for it. Look at the people who are having problems with sludge on Toyota Altises when switching to the 10,000 kilometer interval on synthetics.

That said... it all depends on usage... if it's all highway driving during those 10,000 kilometers (on synthetics, provided you change filters at 5,000 kilometers), it should be okay. If it's all traffic driving, better not to risk it.

As for the VVTi sludge issues, i think it's not because of the interval but because of the synthetic oil use. I have some careless friends (mostly chicks) who went past 10Tkms without oil changes on there Vioses without developing sludges using regular oils. I have seen Altises, though, using synthetics who unfortunately got those sludges on one missed oil change.

[niky]

Sludge takes a number of conditions to form. One is long change intervals. The other is lots of driving in traffic at idle or at high rpms, which both stress the oil and cause it to break down. This is why higher end European cars use oil sensors and a variable interval, because it's possible to exceed recommended intervals and still be safe, but it's also possible to wear out the oil quickly in hard use.

[Noel Salisipan]

the main reason for the bad statistcsis that the vios is a best seller. it sold so/well that almost everyone has one.

I agree!
Vios is the top selling car in the Philippines as of the present, & Montero for SUV.