1.1M or less crossover options - MG ZS vs Suzuki Vitara or other?

[jut703]

Hijacking the topic, what would you choose between the CR-V 2.0 S CVT (1.66M) and the Forester 2.0i-L (1.698M)?

Both are 5 seater gas powered CVT with more or less the same dimensions, with a few electronic features favoring the Subie. Parang one needs to step up to 1.8M na ano to get a fairly decent CUV/PPV?

CRV 1.6S diesel. I know it's 200k more expensive but it'll pay for itself in 3 years.

The 1.6S diesel has more useable power and torque in city driving while being very, very thrifty at the pump.

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Geely is using Volvo.[emoji4]

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Hello po! What do you mean using Volvo? (I know they own many if not most of Volvo’s shares...and the sales person pointed the engine stating that it is Volvo) Is it in a good way or in a bad way? And would you know its reliability? Thank you!

[travajante]

Hello po! What do you mean using Volvo? (I know they own many if not most of Volvo’s shares...and the sales person pointed the engine stating that it is Volvo) Is it in a good way or in a bad way? And would you know its reliability? Thank you!

Having license to copy is definitely better than Chinese copies.[emoji4]Geely has long had the tech transfer agreement from Volvo a few years after the acquisition. Volvo is moving into Electrics. Their combustion segment will be under their jointly owned brand, Lynk & Co.


The Coolray, aka Binyue, is using the BMA platform they co-developed w/ Volvo.

[Egan101]

Geely is using Volvo.[emoji4]

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Geely owns Volvo now. It can do whatever it can to promote their own product.


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[yapoy86]

Geely owns Volvo now. It can do whatever it can to promote their own product.


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Hirap pa maka establish ng mga chinese brands.. kaya siguro they bought na lang known brands na.. like MG..

[fireproofjat]

Having license to copy is definitely better than Chinese copies..Geely has long had the tech transfer agreement from Volvo a few years after the acquisition. Volvo is moving into Electrics. Their combustion segment will be under their jointly owned brand, Lynk & Co...

The Coolray, aka Binyue, is using the BMA platform they co-developed w/ Volvo.
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Thank you po for elaborating! I guess time will tell lang talaga in terms of reliability and quality, especially on the condition of our roads.

[Trippin]

CRV 1.6S diesel. I know it's 200k more expensive but it'll pay for itself in 3 years.

The 1.6S diesel has more useable power and torque in city driving while being very, very thrifty at the pump.

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Thank u sir jut, how about between CRV 1.6S Diesel and the now discounted Forester XT? I know it depends on the person but I'd like to hear your thoughts, especially that you like to drive fast. I know Egan would choose the XT. The CRV would be more practical but one can choose to live a little and drive more enthusiastically.

[hardwang]

Thank u sir jut, how about between CRV 1.6S Diesel and the now discounted Forester XT? I know it depends on the person but I'd like to hear your thoughts, especially that you like to drive fast. I know Egan would choose the XT. The CRV would be more practical but one can choose to live a little and drive more enthusiastically.

Yes, the Forester XT is the best choice in the crossover segment if driving fast is your primary concern. But if you have some spare cash... As in solid, buo na 2M, maybe look for a used Lexus RX 350 instead if you want a reliable fast crossover. Looking at those on the market, they seem to be well taken cared of.

[Egan101]

Thank u sir jut, how about between CRV 1.6S Diesel and the now discounted Forester XT? I know it depends on the person but I'd like to hear your thoughts, especially that you like to drive fast. I know Egan would choose the XT. The CRV would be more practical but one can choose to live a little and drive more enthusiastically.

The CRV diesel is more practical - it is more fuel efficient and it has 7 seats. However, if you want something fast with ample space for 5 people and a big trunk space plus the added grip of AWD, then the FXT is the vehicle for you.

Most CUVs are priced around the same and fuel consumption is about the same among the gas-fed models. I guess if you know you’re going to spend fuel, you might as well get the most powerful one and enjoy a bit of spirited driving once in a while. The FXT surely fits the bill.


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[Trippin]

The CRV diesel is more practical - it is more fuel efficient and it has 7 seats. However, if you want something fast with ample space for 5 people and a big trunk space plus the added grip of AWD, then the FXT is the vehicle for you.

Most CUVs are priced around the same and fuel consumption is about the same among the gas-fed models. I guess if you know you’re going to spend fuel, you might as well get the most powerful one and enjoy a bit of spirited driving once in a while. The FXT surely fits the bill.


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I found a 2014 XT for 750k with 40k mileage but I still need to dispose of my sedan first so there's that.

[Egan101]

I found a 2014 XT for 750k with 40k mileage but I still need to dispose of my sedan first so there's that.

Now that’s a bargain. Please make sure the previous owner changed the CVT fluid, gear oil, and stock tires already. Also, make sure there are no issues with the turbocharger.

My 2016 FXT clocked almost 42k km already.


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[Cruzette]

Hello Good morning everyone I currently own a 10-year old Honda City (120k kms+) and thinking of purchasing a new one to help out in de-stressing our daily workhorse (though with limited budget

What would be your choice in terms of:

1) Long term reliability
2) Space
3) Maintenance Costs and Interval
4) Safety
5) Vs other similarly-priced crossovers

Thanks!

Planning to get Vitara GLX than Seltos EX

[Egan101]

I think the Coolray just amped the ante among crossovers of this price range. I would pick it over an Ecosport or Kona or Seltos or Vitara.


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[shadow]

I think the Coolray just amped the ante among crossovers of this price range. I would pick it over an Ecosport or Kona or Seltos or Vitara.


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Anong brand yun coolray?


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[Egan101]

Anong brand yun coolray?


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It is a Geely but using mostly Volvo technology. Geely is the owner of Volvo now. Below is a review by Niky Tamayo:

https://www.topgear.com.ph/drives/ca...-20191116-lfrm



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[17Sphynx17]

I think the Coolray just amped the ante among crossovers of this price range. I would pick it over an Ecosport or Kona or Seltos or Vitara.


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I agree with this statement.

Honestly, seeing it in the metal, it just offers a lot.

Reliability concerns aside, i just take the difference in php as the offsetting for the depreciation value if you get the more known brand of similar size but is priced higher.

[yapoy86]

Ako naman i'd get myself a used diesel suv na lang for the same price of coolray.. nakakatakot yung techy features pag nasira..

[hardwang]

I think the Coolray just amped the ante among crossovers of this price range. I would pick it over an Ecosport or Kona or Seltos or Vitara.


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Brave guy. I find it scary plopping down more than a million pesos for a crossover from a relatively unknown brand from China (might be popular there) with an unproven turbo engine and *gasp... a dual clutch transmission.

[Egan101]

Brave guy. I find it scary plopping down more than a million pesos for a crossover from a relatively unknown brand from China (might be popular there) with an unproven turbo engine and *gasp... a dual clutch transmission.

Geely did mention that the Coolray uses Volvo technology. It is also scary to spend a million on a popular brand wannabe SUV with an anaemic engine and boring handling unless you drank too much of their Kool-Aid.

Not all DCTs are bad. Ford just made it look bad with their horrible PowerShift tranny. BMW, Merc, VW-Audi, and some others use DCT with not much fuzz about it.

[hardwang]

Geely did mention that the Coolray uses Volvo technology. It is also scary to spend a million on a popular brand wannabe SUV with an anaemic engine and boring handling unless you drank too much of their Kool-Aid.

Not all DCTs are bad. Ford just made it look bad with their horrible PowerShift tranny. BMW, Merc, VW-Audi, and some others use DCT with not much fuzz about it.

Volvo tech doesn’t help either. They’re not exactly synonymous with reliability even back when they were not owned by the Chinese.