why choose the crosswind over the innova...

[badkuk]

can anyone give any sound, logical reasons of choosing a crosswind over an innova?

i like that the crosswind uses an older(but still efficient) engine, since it would most probably be easier to maintain/fix. Other than that and the price, i really can't see any other pluses over the innova...

[foifoi05]

can anyone give any sound, logical reasons of choosing a crosswind over an innova?

i like that the crosswind uses an older(but still efficient) engine, since it would most probably be easier to maintain/fix. Other than that and the price, i really can't see any other pluses over the innova...

tough question, the more i think of an answer the more it leads me to recommend an SUV of the same price.

hmmm, sometimes there are people who prefer the side by side kind of seating at the back?

[speed unlimited]

For me i choose Innova for some reason i see some crosswind idle like we see on most Public Utility Jeep like a real diesel engine noise in idle and also a black smoke when acceleration and on idle. Just my observation.

[harrissuy]

guys yung crosswind isuzu engine kahit 200+ thousand mileage na natakbo stable pa din yung makina kaya marami pa rin bumibili nito. just my opinion

[badkuk]

tama ba, the crosswind's FC is at par/better than the D4D innova?

[Gerbo]

can anyone give any sound, logical reasons of choosing a crosswind over an innova?

i like that the crosswind uses an older(but still efficient) engine, since it would most probably be easier to maintain/fix. Other than that and the price, i really can't see any other pluses over the innova...

You hit it right, bro.

Easy maintenance and the reliability even at higher mileage. These are actually the reasons why I bought one three years ago. Mine is still at the 25,000 mark but my bro-in-law uses one that has already reached 200,000 kilometers and engine is still sound as the day it was bought in 2006.

Other than these, the other car is much better.

As to the fuel consumption, I think it is at par.

[niky]

The Innova is a much better car, overall.

The Crosswind's steel is butter-soft... it's not very strong in a crash (the Innova has never been crash-tested, but it's a newer design and the body feels stiffer) and the (heavy) doors come out of alignment easily. There are tons of squeaks and rattles inside, the plastic is cheap, the fuses suck, the brakes are dismal, and ABS isn't available. handling is a cross between a VW Beetle and a bus. It's a dismal car.

But the engine will last forever, if you care for it properly. Our main Crosswind is 177,000 kilometers old, and all we've replaced so far is the shocks, suspension bushings, a bearing in the pulley, one clutch and one battery. No problems with the fuel system (and I've filled it a few times from the "takal-takal" sari-sari stores), still runs well, still gets over 10 km/l in traffic. The other two have had problems... we had to top-overhaul the Highlander at 150,000 kms, but that was bought secondhand, and poorly maintained... besides, the Highlander isn't a 4JA1 engine, and I'm selling it off. The other Crosswind is an XTO, at 160,000 kilometers, it's needed calibration, but nothing else... and my dad ran that one until the oil in the sump was sludge... :hysterical: ...wondering about selling the Highlander and XTO and buying a newer XT or XTi model.

An Innova is much more refined, safer and will probably give you less problems with body integrity, but few direct injection diesels will last over 100,000 kilometers locally without problems due to our fuel quality. And some Innova owners experience fuel pump failures as early as 40,000 kilometers.

If you need a car as tough as a cockroach, the Crosswind is a good bet. It's one of the few cars that will survive a nuclear blast...

I hate my Crosswind... But I love my Crosswind. I love it because I use it to do all the dirty work around the house, and I'm using it to transport stuff around after the flood. ;)

[renzo_d10]

Crosswind.

I saw a X-wind XTRM cross by our street which the flood is nearly waist deep. May mga bystanders na sumabit sa likod just for them to pass through without going through the flood.

Minani lang nung crosswind, parang wala. :hysterical:

[kobkob59]

can anyone give any sound, logical reasons of choosing a crosswind over an innova?

i like that the crosswind uses an older(but still efficient) engine, since it would most probably be easier to maintain/fix. Other than that and the price, i really can't see any other pluses over the innova...

yes, very reliable, the crosswind that is, i have a 2001 crosswind xto, and it still is running very well, efficient at that, and isuzu's reputation with its diesel engines to boot, however, when i was recently in ho chi minh city, vietnam, all the taxis there where practically toyota innovas! and the city's reputation of 9 million people, with 5 million motorcycles, the innova is practically everywhere, after the motorcycles!

[niky]

Vietnam has only recently started getting into cars... so it's still a small market.

You'll see more Crosswinds in Indonesia and Malaysia.

[badkuk]

The Crosswind's steel is butter-soft... it's not very strong in a crash

hmmm...i was leaning more to the crosswind actually... but i saw a picture posted here of a crosswind that rear ended a Santa Fe: the front end of the crosswind got messed up, while i had to squint to see the mild indentation on the Santa Fe.

ganun pa rin kaya ang 2010 crosswind? any chance they used stiffer metals this time?

[niky]

hmmm...i was leaning more to the crosswind actually... but i saw a picture posted here of a crosswind that rear ended a Santa Fe: the front end of the crosswind got messed up, while i had to squint to see the mild indentation on the Santa Fe.

ganun pa rin kaya ang 2010 crosswind? any chance they used stiffer metals this time?

Who knows? They just keep changing the headlights and tail-lights, but the basic sheet metal is still the same shape as the old XTO... that's over ten years with the same body!

If you're getting a Crosswind, getting a bullbar (properly installed) would be a good idea.

Still, despite the safety issue, I think it's a car that every business and every extended family (if you don't own one... you should at least have an uncle or cousin who does) should have. Very useful thing.

[p_borj]

officemate ko nilusong yung crosswind sa baha nung sabado umabot hanggang sa itaas ng hood. ayun dala pa nga ngayon oh.

4JA1 parang bato daw yan eh compared sa mga D4D's ng Toyota. At huwag ka nang makipagsapalaran sa fuel pump oem ng D4D hehe. Mamaya eh mag-oovertake ka tapos may pasalubong na bus sa harap mo and then..

[tidus1203]

hmmm...i was leaning more to the crosswind actually... but i saw a picture posted here of a crosswind that rear ended a Santa Fe: the front end of the crosswind got messed up, while i had to squint to see the mild indentation on the Santa Fe.

ganun pa rin kaya ang 2010 crosswind? any chance they used stiffer metals this time?

Sakin lang if for business use or pang harabas lang Xwind is good, pero kung family use I say Innova na lang... I would think gawa pa din sa lata ang Xwind and thus in a crash your family's safety is compromised.

[XTO]

eto na lang. any D4D innovas that clocked 200,000+ kms? or kahit 150K na lang na puro fluids lang pinalitan sa engine

[torogi kid]

hmmm...i was leaning more to the crosswind actually... but i saw a picture posted here of a crosswind that rear ended a Santa Fe: the front end of the crosswind got messed up, while i had to squint to see the mild indentation on the Santa Fe.

ganun pa rin kaya ang 2010 crosswind? any chance they used stiffer metals this time?

hmmm. di ba yun ang ang dapat mangyari? kung proper ang safety design, the front will crumple to absorb the impact, thus keeping the occupants safe? better safe than a dented/crumpled hood.. just my 2cents...

[niky]

hmmm. di ba yun ang ang dapat mangyari? kung proper ang safety design, the front will crumple to absorb the impact, thus keeping the occupants safe? better safe than a dented/crumpled hood.. just my 2cents...

Yeah... but in the case of the Crosswind... the rigidity of the structure is lacking... so you're not assured that those crumple zones will protect you... as the body between them is quite soft.

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I still love my Crosswind. Hell... after the typhoon, I'd gladly add my vote to the Isuzu... errh... Autofocus People's Choice Awards.

Now all I need to do is find a snorkel that will fit the Crosswind... and some scuba gear, so I can breathe inside while fording deep rivers... :hysterical:

[tidus1203]

hmmm. di ba yun ang ang dapat mangyari? kung proper ang safety design, the front will crumple to absorb the impact, thus keeping the occupants safe? better safe than a dented/crumpled hood.. just my 2cents...

Based on those pictures mukang low speed accident lang eh kasi yung SF gasgas lang kasi kung high speed yun even the SF will definitely have a dent pero wala eh galos lang. The SF has a so called "2.5 mile bumper". At that speed ata dapat the bumper will not be dented...