Civic 97-2000 vs Ford Lynx

[monching11]

Hi Tsikot masters,

I will be buying my first car probably late dec-early nov. With a budget of 200k (10-20k for repairs included) I have the civic as my first choice. But upon reading on the car buying thread, I've seen na madami ding nag recommend kay ford lynx. Pros and Cons sana ng dalawa mga sir in terms of performance and maintenance.

I will be using it as a weekend car (pasyal pasyal lang) at once or twice to the office weekly(binan-makati).

I don't like mag brand new as of the moment dahil iwas ako sa monthly na bayarin and nagiipon din kame ni wife for the construction of our house. Kailangan lang magka private vehicle kasi hassle na ngayon bumiyahe with our 2yo baby.

[GTi]

Hi Tsikot masters,

I will be buying my first car probably late dec-early nov. With a budget of 200k (10-20k for repairs included) I have the civic as my first choice. But upon reading on the car buying thread, I've seen na madami ding nag recommend kay ford lynx. Pros and Cons sana ng dalawa mga sir in terms of performance and maintenance.

I will be using it as a weekend car (pasyal pasyal lang) at once or twice to the office weekly(binan-makati).

I don't like mag brand new as of the moment dahil iwas ako sa monthly na bayarin and nagiipon din kame ni wife for the construction of our house. Kailangan lang magka private vehicle kasi hassle na ngayon bumiyahe with our 2yo baby.

I'd go with a Lynx 1.6M/T. You get a much newer car with your budget. And generally, a newer car means lesser headaches. The Civic is nice, but if your budget is limited, chances are you'll end up with a very old and/or high mileage unit. The Lynx is a much newer model, introduced four years after the Civic and has the option of ABS and airbags, should you find a decent Ghia variant.

[1D4LV]

same here... i would go the lynx route and take it from there. sobra pa budget mo.

[monching11]

Thanks sa pagsagot sir GTi and 1D4LV.

Total noob pala ako sa car btw, nagaaral pa nga lang ako magdrive ngayon. In terms of maintenance, parts availability hindi naman po ba pahirapan sa lynx?

I prefer the civic pero pogi din ang lynx at mas trip ni misis.

[GTi]

Mas trip pala ni misis eh! It is not hard nor overly expensive to look for parts for the Lynx, especially since it is basically a rebadged Mazda. Mazford and Fordland in Banawe are very good sources for parts.

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[monching11]

Mas trip pala ni misis eh! It is not hard nor overly expensive to look for parts for the Lynx, especially since it is basically a rebadged Mazda. Mazford and Fordland in Banawe are very good sources for parts.

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ahahahah. oo nga sir trip ni kumander! nung pinapakita ko ung both models iba ung reaction nya kay lynx compared kay civic. I see, madali pala sir makahanap ng parts I thought pahirapan kasi syempre 2nd hand car I expect na meron at meron talaga ire-repair.

What year should I look into sir? I'll go with the ghia variant pala. Para at least I know what I will get when I have the whole bugdet na. Saka kelan ba better bumili, dec or jan?

[GTi]

ahahahah. oo nga sir trip ni kumander! nung pinapakita ko ung both models iba ung reaction nya kay lynx compared kay civic. I see, madali pala sir makahanap ng parts I thought pahirapan kasi syempre 2nd hand car I expect na meron at meron talaga ire-repair.

What year should I look into sir? I'll go with the ghia variant pala. Para at least I know what I will get when I have the whole bugdet na. Saka kelan ba better bumili, dec or jan?

Hmm~ Any variant and year model will do as long as it is a manual, and you are 101% sure that it is in good condition. I personally wouldn't mind even if it was a GSi. Of course low mileage is also a plus, preferably something that's traveled 10tkms/year and below. But then this is not foolproof as it is quite easy for unscrupulous buy and sell folks to tinker with the odometer to show lesser mileage. There is also a case wherein the odometer of my friend's Altis was reset to zero after being Ondoy'd. Now it shows only 19tkms despite having actually traveled around 100tkms more! It would be preferable to buy from private sellers. They tend to be more straightforward and honest, and are usually more amenable to negotiation. Since you are getting a 2nd hand car, there are no extra perks and promos in Christmas season, so it doesn't matter when you buy. Though it may save you a few grand if the owner had just recently registered the vehicle, and renewed the vehicle's insurance policy.

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[jp923]

For me civic is more spacious. Lynx has a slightly lower resale value that's why you can get a newer model (which is an upside)

Maintenance wise not sure but my cousin has an optra and from what she's claiming, parang civic lang daw pero casa comparison yun ha.

If decent family car, I'd go for the lynx. I mean no hardcore set-ups (opinion ko lang since madali i-set up civic for me)

Gti is right get one from an owner seller. Preferably of course, first owned.

[monching11]

Hmm~ Any variant and year model will do as long as it is a manual, and you are 101% sure that it is in good condition. I personally wouldn't mind even if it was a GSi. Of course low mileage is also a plus, preferably something that's traveled 10tkms/year and below. But then this is not foolproof as it is quite easy for unscrupulous buy and sell folks to tinker with the odometer to show lesser mileage. There is also a case wherein the odometer of my friend's Altis was reset to zero after being Ondoy'd. Now it shows only 19tkms despite having actually traveled around 100tkms more! It would be preferable to buy from private sellers. They tend to be more straightforward and honest, and are usually more amenable to negotiation. Since you are getting a 2nd hand car, there are no extra perks and promos in Christmas season, so it doesn't matter when you buy. Though it may save you a few grand if the owner had just recently registered the vehicle, and renewed the vehicle's insurance policy.

Thanks for the detailed answer sir I really appreciate answering my questions. After reading over and over dito sa car buying thread I've learned that it's better, if not the best to buy directly from the owner kesa sa mga dealers. Kelan ba usually ang pag renew ng registration/insurance?

I will update this thread once I have the money and post ko ung mga ads na nat-type an ko. In short, mangugulit uli ako sir. hehehe

For me civic is more spacious. Lynx has a slightly lower resale value that's why you can get a newer model (which is an upside)

Maintenance wise not sure but my cousin has an optra and from what she's claiming, parang civic lang daw pero casa comparison yun ha.

If decent family car, I'd go for the lynx. I mean no hardcore set-ups (opinion ko lang since madali i-set up civic for me)

Gti is right get one from an owner seller. Preferably of course, first owned.

Thanks for the input sir, actually I am torn between the two but considering the answers here and upon seeing the condition of the lynx's that I saw in Sulit I think more BFTB siya.

I will go honda din siguro sir pag nag bnew nako either civic or mitsubishi lancer pagtapos ng house. For now eto munang ford lynx pogi din naman

[monching11]

Yes sir total noob ako and will learn to drive on it din. About the color sir yes, i prefer black para medyo iba sa common na altis pero im open to other color suggestions din.

[renzo_d10]

250k for an 07 Altis? Parang ang mura ata?

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[tr1ck5h07]

Based on the indicated mileage. The Altis travels 30k km per year. Most likely a company car. Have it checked out by a trusted mechanic.


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[monching11]

Yun nga din sir una kong napansin. I'll ask about the history din bakit super taas ng mileage. Ill bring my bayaw who's a mitsu agent and into buy and sell sa saturday.

[monching11]

Kausap ko pala ung seller kasi nag set ako ng time for saturday naitanong ko na din ang usual trip, from Los Baños to ortigas daw everyday ang work nya.

Via google maps, 58.5km from LB to ortigas.

Vice versa = 117
Weekdays in a year = 260 ballpark

117x260 = 30420
age of car: 6
6x30420km = 182520 kms

[lowslowbenz]

^
OT:

Los Banos - Ortigas - Los Banos!!!

Wow, talk about fuel and toll bills!

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Yeah cheaper to rent out a place near office and the convenience of the commute. Hehe

Anyway, check it well since mataas mileage. Bearings, bushings, any weird sound Lalo sa high rev. Check service kung na palitan na oil seals water pump twice. Any sign of laspag... Walk away.

[monching11]

^
OT:

Los Banos - Ortigas - Los Banos!!!

Wow, talk about fuel and toll bills!

Baka rich kid sir heheheh

Yeah cheaper to rent out a place near office and the convenience of the commute. Hehe

Anyway, check it well since mataas mileage. Bearings, bushings, any weird sound Lalo sa high rev. Check service kung na palitan na oil seals water pump twice. Any sign of laspag... Walk away.

yes sir, thanks for the tips on things to look out for. Will meet the seller later. Hope all goes well.

[monching11]

fail saturday lol.

Tumawag sakin si seller ng Altis for 250k mga bandang 2pm before our 5pm meetup. Our convo went like this:

Seller: Goodafternoon mon (me), tanong ko lang kung san mo gagamitin ung kotse. Personal ba or business?
Me: Personal ho sir
S: Ah, madami kasi nagtatanong sakin lalo na ahente at nagbubuy and sell. matanong nga kita kung san ka nagt-trabaho
M: Connected ho ako sa ---- group,assure ko ho sa inyo ako ho ang gagamit ng kotse
S: ah ganun ba? kasi ung mga ahente parang ano ba... pack of wolves (Siguro iniisip nya kinokonchaba ko ung mga ahente)
M: Ah ganun ho ba nako ho seryoso ho ako
S: Gusto ko din sana itanong kung magkano ba budget mo para malaman ko din kung pupunta ako kasi malayo pangagalingan ko. Last price ko kasi 240 kahapon nga dapat bibilhin na di lang kame nagkasundo dahil may hinahanap na secretary's certificate at pirma na galing sa general manager eh pwede naman to follow na lang un (LOL Red flag)
M: Ah ganun ho ba (long pause) 230k lang ho ang cash ko,
S: Di mo ba kaya gawan ng paraan ung natitira
M:Un na ho talaga, para rin ho malaman nyo kung sakali at least hindi na ho tayo magsasayangan ng oras. Kaso lang ho hindi ho na withdraw ng wife ko ung pera cash on hand namen is 140 lang kung sakali baka lunes ko ho maibigay yung pera kasi limited lang labas ng pera ng atm daily.
S: Ah ganun ba (Nag isip ng matagal) di na lang ako pupunta wala pa pala ung pera
Me: Ah ganun ho ba, o sige ho kung sakaling available pa sir usap uli tayo.

Wew, gusto ata upon viewing bilhin ko agad eh di ata sa kanya nakapangalan ung kotse at sa company siguro..

Sa inis ko nagpunta ako sa mga dealer dito sa may amin, napusuan ko na naman ang 1999-2000 civic haha. Kala ko madali na bumili pag hawak na ung pera, mas mahirap pala LOL. Minsan naiisip ko mag bnew para iwas sa mga ganitong hassle kaso di priority at eto lang talaga budget hahaha.

Start from scratch ule

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Tama lang na hindi kunin kung kulang papers. Hindi matatransfer sayo kung wala sec. Cert.

[monching11]

oo nga sir, i mean di naman biro ung ganung amount dapat nasa ayos din ung ilalabas nyang papeles at malinis. kasi ako maayos ko ibibigay yung pera kung sakali naman e