An SUV with 7 seater, Gas engine and a 4WD

[kicks4us24]

Hey guys, can you help me in choosing an suv? magpapalit na ako and syempre brandnew po and not second hand.

eto factors:

-SUV na 7 seater sya,
-Gasoline engine only and
-4WD, AWD ang specification nya.

thanks.

budget 1m to 1.6m.

[myk384]

Ang tanging pasok diyan sa requirement mo is the Chevrolet Captiva and the Kia Sorento.

Both have 7 seats, may gasoline engine, and AWD.

[GTi]

Don't even think of the Captiva. Cramped 3rd row, weak engine and poor after sales means it is not a good vehicle to own at all. Bakit naman gasoline kailangan? 7 seater SUV + 4WD + gasoline engine = very scary gas mileage. Though, yes, the Sorento 2.4L Theta II fits your budget but the performance certainly isn't good since its really made for a 3.5L V6 engine which is available elsewhere. Are you really not going to consider the diesels? Well performing 4x4 gasoline SUVs are going well above the 2M mark already.

[Starex_Gold]

I think there's a reason kung bakit gasoline ang hanap niya at hindi diesel.

Though, yes, the Sorento 2.4L Theta II fits your budget but the performance certainly isn't good since its really made for a 3.5L V6 engine which is available elsewhere.

Have you tested one?

I think the performance is good enough but as not as good as the CRDi. Yung Santa Fe 2.4 Theta II nakakahabol sa Tucson ko pagdating sa rektahan pero hindi masyado sa arangkada.

Kia Sorento 2.4 Theta II AWD review by Niky Tamayo
Review: 2010 Kia Sorento 2.4 AWD - Official bigbigcar.com vehicle reviews and feature - The bigbigcar.com Forums

[niky]

I remember that review. Loved that truck.



The 0-100 km/h time is actually better than the CR-V and RAV4, and better than all the diesel ladder-frame trucks (Everest, Fortuner) except maybe the new Montero Sport 4x4 automatic... which is just as quick or a little quicker.

The only way you'd call it underpowered (in the Philippine setting) is if you compared it to the X-Trail, which is a smaller vehicle with a bigger engine and a fantastic CVT, or the Sorento and Santa Fe with the powerful CRDi R-eVGT Holy Freaking Frijoles engine.

And with the stiff anti-roll bars and good steering, it's certainly a lot more secure in terms of handling than 99% of the other "trucks" and crossovers in the size and price range.

A 3.5 liter V6 Sorento? Anong kalaban nun if they'd bring it in? The Murano, Explorer, CX9... Sure... they could probably underbid Ford by selling a V6 Sorento for around 2.2m, but seriously, who's going to buy a V6 Sorento here over the bigger and more refined Explorer or CX9? Kia will keep the status quo by having the Sorento compete in the sub-2m range against the Santa Fe and Montero Sport, while the Veracruz is what it puts up against the big dogs.

[111prez]

at that price range and specifications, mukhang 2nd hand or pre-owned lang ang available

[GTi]

I think there's a reason kung bakit gasoline ang hanap niya at hindi diesel.


Have you tested one?

I think the performance is good enough but as not as good as the CRDi. Yung Santa Fe 2.4 Theta II nakakahabol sa Tucson ko pagdating sa rektahan pero hindi masyado sa arangkada.

Kia Sorento 2.4 Theta II AWD review by Niky Tamayo
Review: 2010 Kia Sorento 2.4 AWD - Official bigbigcar.com vehicle reviews and feature - The bigbigcar.com Forums

It seems that there are quite a number of reviews from here and there that are talking about the 2.4L's lack of punch with a heavy body of around 1800kg. Also since the variant in question is the top of the line variant with A/T and AWD which means more drivetrain loss and a negative impact on the fuel efficiency department due to low amount of torque which is available only at high rpm.

Now that is, of course as always, just my two cents worth opinion.

[niky]

Depends on your perspective. In the US? Maybe... for them, that's a slow vehicle.

Here? It's faster than 99% of the cars on the road. It's faster than the old automatic CR-V. It's faster than every Vios except the 1.5 manual. It's faster than most modern compact sedans with 1.6s and 1.8s. It's faster than my modern CR-V. It's faster than every ladder-frame diesel except the new Montero Sport... and even then... patas lang sila.

In the US, where your typical minivan has enough power to pull away from a Civic SiR at the stoplight (unless the SiR driver is willing to toast his clutch...), it's probably on the slow side.

In pinoy traffic, where the fun stops at 50 km/h, and on Pinoy highways where 120 km/h is about as fast as you can go safely, the 2.4 has more than enough power.

[kicks4us24]

Hey guys thanks for the reply, un tatay ko ayaw nya ng diesel dahil sirain daw ito. Ok lng gas kahit mahal.

Anyway, may consideration na po, 7 seater na 4x2. At that range po ano malakas at good na suv na kayang kaya kahit fully loaded passenger and may cargo pa. Eg like going trips to baguio, ilocos, long trips etc . Yun po kayang fortuner 2.7vvti ok ba un or,underpowered?

[rafmac]

Mitsu is also releasing a 3.0 V6 Montero Sport, i think around 1.4m the price and you might want to check it out

[niky]

Mitsu is also releasing a 3.0 V6 Montero Sport, i think around 1.4m the price and you might want to check it out

Says who? We were with Arlan Reyes yesterday talking about their model line-up and future models and there was no mention of a gasoline Montero. At all.

If you're talking about the return of the V6 Outlander (which we also talked about... many of us loved that crossover), then malabo rin yun. And super-malabo at that low a price. 1.4m, loaded 4x2 DiD palang yun... a V6 would cost at least 2m. The V6 gasoline Pajero is in the 2.5 - 2.8m range.

There is a V6 Montero Sport in the Middle East, but they're not being sold in the South East Asian market... you'd have to import a Dubhai unit... and you won't be able to do that for just 1.4m.

[renzo_d10]

Your best bet would probably be just the Sorento. Unless, of course, you are open to considering other alternatives found on the used car market.

[kicks4us24]

thanks guys, broken down na choices sa sorento. sayang wala nga gas options ang mitsubishi.

[myk384]

thanks guys, broken down na choices sa sorento. sayang wala nga gas options ang mitsubishi.

Sorento ka na lang, one good SUV....

Kung nandyan sana ang 2.7 V6 ng Santa Fe but that engine had been discontinued. But I'm not a fan of this engine variant

[niky]

Says who? We were with Arlan Reyes yesterday talking about their model line-up and future models and there was no mention of a gasoline Montero. At all.

If you're talking about the return of the V6 Outlander (which we also talked about... many of us loved that crossover), then malabo rin yun. And super-malabo at that low a price. 1.4m, loaded 4x2 DiD palang yun... a V6 would cost at least 2m. The V6 gasoline Pajero is in the 2.5 - 2.8m range.

There is a V6 Montero Sport in the Middle East, but they're not being sold in the South East Asian market... you'd have to import a Dubhai unit... and you won't be able to do that for just 1.4m.

Quoting myself... have to eat my hat. Mitsubishi has indeed brought out a V6 Montero... supposedly... but it's just the 3.0 Outlander engine, not the more expensive Pajero V6... and it is indeed 1.4m.

Egads... who's going to buy that? Isn't the diesel already fast enough?

[GTi]

What the... Is there anywhere we can read more about this? Siguro they brought in the smaller V6 for lesser gas consumption. Yung 1.4M ba 4x4 na o 4x2 lang? They probably did this to counter the Fortuner 2.7VVTi.

[niky]

4x2 daw. Heard from a friend that it's up on Mitsubishi's website.

Yeah... probably covering the 2.7 VVTi, but c'mon... nobody buys the gasser anymore...

[misslancer]

Mitsu is also releasing a 3.0 V6 Montero Sport, i think around 1.4m the price and you might want to check it out

Mitsubishi Montero 3.0 GLS Gas 4x2 A/T 2012 -Php 1,408,000

[rafmac]

The dealers already have the gas variant of the ms in their price list since last October. I guess there still is a market for gas powered suv's. There is still a lot of people who are wary about our dirty diesels and the higher maintainance cost of owning a diesel. Although diesel is still cheaper than petrol, the lower price point of the gas powered ms plus pms cycle of 10k rather than 5k makes the total cost of ownership of the gas variant makes it an appealing option. It won't be a volume seller, but should sell a few units and steal some market share of the gas powered fortuner