The Toyota Juggernaut Continues ...

[thearsenal1205]

yung hilux conquest din eh.. top of the line na pick-up hindi pa naka leather seats.. although may pagka vinyl type yung leather seat ng toyota ha..

and the HU is not the same as in the fortuner ltd..

[hardwang]

Why other automakers can't copy or imitates toyota's build quality or "tibay-ness"?

Anong meron sa kanila na uniqueness ng pagkatibay?

Do they have trade secrets?

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I think I've heard somewhere before, they supposedly follow the "kaizen" way. Not sure but I think it has something to do with continuous improvement until it becomes reliable (?). Its probably in the internet somewhere.

I'm not too sure about that mumbo jumbo. We've had a 1st gen vios before and it was a major pile of s***. The real advantage I think is the supply of parts, kahit saan may nabibili agad.

[dr. d]

aside from the many things mentioned in google, that they say make toyota a great car maker,
an auto journalist also wrote that toyota encourages third party manufacture of parts and accessories for toyota vehicles.
a definite plus for toyota parts chasers, who will only add to the songs of praise for toyota.

[ice15]

I'm not too sure about that mumbo jumbo. We've had a 1st gen vios before and it was a major pile of s***. The real advantage I think is the supply of parts, kahit saan may nabibili agad.

nung nasa Taxi business kami. we had Sentra's (LEC), E90/E100 Corollas and our friend have Kia Prides

I can say that units are 50-50. I can't confidently say that the Corolla broke down less compared to the Sentras

But Corolla parts are easily accessible that replacing the entire thing is easier than just having a specific part replaced.

E90 and E100 almost shared parts which was also a big plus

[111prez]

https://www.autoindustriya.com/racin...the-hilux.html

This used to be Mitsu's playground ... a long long time ago in a desert far far away ...

[travajante]

It probably helps that a worthy 3rd gen Toyoda helms this juggernaut of a badge...
One who knows how to burn rubber...
?????????????????????????? - YouTube
One who embraces change....
Akio Toyoda MBA?82 at Babson?s Centennial Commencement - YouTube
......& donuts[emoji38]

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[thearsenal1205]

I think I've heard somewhere before, they supposedly follow the "kaizen" way. Not sure but I think it has something to do with continuous improvement until it becomes reliable (?). Its probably in the internet somewhere.

I'm not too sure about that mumbo jumbo. We've had a 1st gen vios before and it was a major pile of s***. The real advantage I think is the supply of parts, kahit saan may nabibili agad.

Maybe your vios was a.. lemon?..
What problems did you encountered on your gen1 vios?

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[coiter]

sabi nga nila, kahit sa sari sari store may mabibili kang piyesa ng toyota hehe at lahat ng mekaniko alam gawin ang toyota. mataas pa resale value.

[hardwang]

Maybe your vios was a.. lemon?..
What problems did you encountered on your gen1 vios?

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Water coming inside the tail lights. I saw vios taxis with the same issues. Unusual premature suspension parts wear. Suspension boots were already torn. Water was also coming inside the trunk. All that in less than 5 years.

[dr. d]

Water coming inside the tail lights. I saw vios taxis with the same issues. Unusual premature suspension parts wear. Suspension boots were already torn. Water was also coming inside the trunk. All that in less than 5 years.

... private ordinary family use,
family business use,
or taxi?

acquired brand new, or "slightly used"?

[hardwang]

... private ordinary family use,
family business use,
or taxi?

acquired brand new, or "slightly used"?

Ordinary use. Company car, acquired new. Occasional long distance trips, although admittedly the provincial highways before were crappier. But we also had a lancer cedia before. Its suspension managed to last longer than the vios driving in the same set of roads, and that's with a heavier 17 inch aftermarket rims. Although different segments, we also had a ford ranger 2002 and escape 2004 back then, no issues with them.

[dr. d]

Ordinary use. Company car, acquired new. Occasional long distance trips, although admittedly the provincial highways before were crappier. But we also had a lancer cedia before. Its suspension managed to last longer than the vios driving in the same set of roads, and that's with a heavier 17 inch aftermarket rims. Although different segments, we also had a ford ranger 2002 and escape 2004 back then, no issues with them.

it would appear,
the heavier the build, the more robust the quality.

provincial runs may be friendlier to the engine, but it is probably harder on the suspension.

company car?
i wonder, who else drives it?

... odometer reading?

[sirkosero]

Water coming inside the tail lights. I saw vios taxis with the same issues. Unusual premature suspension parts wear. Suspension boots were already torn. Water was also coming inside the trunk. All that in less than 5 years.

Hmmm samin 1st gen vios only had an issue on the 12th year of ownership. Suspension repairs lang. Yung aircon nasira on the 17th year of ownership.

Never had a problem with water sa tail lights and trunk. Although nangyayari daw yan sa mga nabangga.

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[thearsenal1205]

Water coming inside the tail lights. I saw vios taxis with the same issues. Unusual premature suspension parts wear. Suspension boots were already torn. Water was also coming inside the trunk. All that in less than 5 years.

Possible it's a lemon unit...

Btw the gen 1 vioses was not assembled at santa rosa, laguna. It was assembled in thailand..
i may not sure on this..

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[hardwang]

it would appear,
the heavier the build, the more robust the quality.

provincial runs may be friendlier to the engine, but it is probably harder on the suspension.

company car?
i wonder, who else drives it?

... odometer reading?

Kung sino lang kailangan sa family members. It was a long time ago but I think odometer was around 60k to 70k. Engine and the manual transmission never had a problem though, even the clutch was never replaced.

[hardwang]

Hmmm samin 1st gen vios only had an issue on the 12th year of ownership. Suspension repairs lang. Yung aircon nasira on the 17th year of ownership.

Never had a problem with water sa tail lights and trunk. Although nangyayari daw yan sa mga nabangga.

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Nabangga nga yung amin pero sa harap. Twice. Our vios didn't have an ABS. 😓

[111prez]

https://www.autoindustriya.com/auto-...a-in-2021.html

If only the Philippines was the exporter instead of the importer ...

[babkalakal]

https://www.autoindustriya.com/auto-...a-in-2021.html

If only the Philippines was the exporter instead of the importer ...

yes sayang nga. it is almost painful to think na sana tayo nag eexport ngayon. we already had the headstart then.

[coiter]

yes sayang nga. it is almost painful to think na sana tayo nag eexport ngayon. we already had the headstart then.

isang naging problem is our local market is relatively small to support a manufacturing hub. unlike thailand and indonesia whose car sales reach 1M/year pre-pandemic.

[yapoy86]

isang naging problem is our local market is relatively small to support a manufacturing hub. unlike thailand and indonesia whose car sales reach 1M/year pre-pandemic.

i don't think na local market issue.. kasi pwede naman tayo mag export to satisfy yung numbers eh.. we just drop da ball.. that's it.. pati sa electronics nag alisan yung mga nandito na..

maganda yung initiative na to support local.. dapat nga mga government agencies ang bilhin na fleet ay yung locally made.. like vios, innova..

remember yung pnp bumili ng mahindra.. haha di ba bumalik din sila sa toyota