Switch from MT to AT. Help in choices please

[mathguro]

Hello po.

I currently own a 2011 Avanza J, nasa 63K mileage. Ok pa sya, except due to some health problems, I need to switch to an automatic transmission now. So I'm thinking of trading it in for a 2nd hand also. Some questions are...

1. Do I just look for a trusted buy and seller for straight trade-in? Bawas hassle sa pagbenta, paperwork, etc....pero baka naman baratin ako.

2. I'm willing to add around 50k for the "upgrade" (I really prefer MT over AT for that driver feeling but my body won't cooperate). Thinking of maybe same year model Avanza, or older Innova or some other AUV/SUV. So younger avanza or older innova/crv/other suv?


Your thoughts will be much appreciated. Thanks!

[dr. d]

Hello po.

I currently own a 2011 Avanza J, nasa 63K mileage. Ok pa sya, except due to some health problems, I need to switch to an automatic transmission now. So I'm thinking of trading it in for a 2nd hand also. Some questions are...

1. Do I just look for a trusted buy and seller for straight trade-in? Bawas hassle sa pagbenta, paperwork, etc....pero baka naman baratin ako.

2. I'm willing to add around 50k for the "upgrade" (I really prefer MT over AT for that driver feeling but my body won't cooperate). Thinking of maybe same year model Avanza, or older Innova or some other AUV/SUV. So younger avanza or older innova/crv/other suv?


Your thoughts will be much appreciated. Thanks!

1. siguradong babaratin kayo ng bayan seller! if this is an issue with you, stay away from them.
"siguro may exception", you are thinking?
"well, i haven't come across one, yet", i counter.
another issue with bayan sellers: they make a living selling cars. not like some sellers, who simply "need the extra garage space", and would probably give you a real discount, just to get rid of the car.... patience, sir. everything comes to he who practises patience.
but you are correct. bayan sellers do offer less hassle, paperwork-wise.

2. the AT avanza has, to me, a big gas appetite. my colleague struggles with 7 km/li. do you really need its utility use? maybe you can get another, more fuel-efficient AT car? they say the mirage, the new celerio.... a diesel would have smaller gas bills, what with the cheap price of diesel fuel and generally more fuel efficient diesel engines...

good luck, po.

[1D4LV]

Hello po.

I currently own a 2011 Avanza J, nasa 63K mileage. Ok pa sya, except due to some health problems, I need to switch to an automatic transmission now. So I'm thinking of trading it in for a 2nd hand also. Some questions are...

1. Do I just look for a trusted buy and seller for straight trade-in? Bawas hassle sa pagbenta, paperwork, etc....pero baka naman baratin ako.

2. I'm willing to add around 50k for the "upgrade" (I really prefer MT over AT for that driver feeling but my body won't cooperate). Thinking of maybe same year model Avanza, or older Innova or some other AUV/SUV. So younger avanza or older innova/crv/other suv?


Your thoughts will be much appreciated. Thanks!

as far as i know, there could be two options:

1st:

Sell the avanza. Use the proceeds to get the A/T unit that you want.
Pros: you can get the price you want.
Cons: maabala. Madami kang kausap. Magaayos ka pa ng papeles. YOu may not be able to sell it immediately. Mahirap din mamili ng sasakyan lalo na from the direct sellers din ng AT mo. Madami na din kasing hindi sinasabi ang sakit. Mabusisi.

2nd:

Go to a used-car dealer. Trade in your Avanza. Get the AT unit that you want.
Pros: mabilisan. sila na magaayos ng mga transfer papers.
Cons: babaratin ka sa value ng sasakyan mo. Baka kulangin yung idadagdag mong 50k.

Ako personally, i would go the 2nd option. Nakakapagod ang makipagusap sa madaming buyers, tawaran dito and doon, and magayos ng papeles.

[Battlestar]

as far as i know, there could be two options:

1st:

Sell the avanza. Use the proceeds to get the A/T unit that you want.
Pros: you can get the price you want.
Cons: maabala. Madami kang kausap. Magaayos ka pa ng papeles. YOu may not be able to sell it immediately. Mahirap din mamili ng sasakyan lalo na from the direct sellers din ng AT mo. Madami na din kasing hindi sinasabi ang sakit. Mabusisi.

2nd:

Go to a used-car dealer. Trade in your Avanza. Get the AT unit that you want.
Pros: mabilisan. sila na magaayos ng mga transfer papers.
Cons: babaratin ka sa value ng sasakyan mo. Baka kulangin yung idadagdag mong 50k.

Ako personally, i would go the 2nd option. Nakakapagod ang makipagusap sa madaming buyers, tawaran dito and doon, and magayos ng papeles.

Try the option #1 first. If months has been passed and still you couldn't sell your car, go to option #2. As the poster below said, you need to shell out a huge amount of money since car/trade dealer will barat you

[mathguro]

Salamat po sa inputs, will keep them in mind. I will try looking for a seller muna, hindi pa naman masyadong urgent, kaya pang magtiis ng paa ko sa traffic for now, kapag walang makuhang buyer with my preferred price, sa ahente na.

Medyo gas guzzler pala ang AT avanza, no? Will look at other options. Hesitant lang ako sa sedan dahil medyo binabaha ang daanan ko pauwi.

Salamt ulit!

[1D4LV]

Salamat po sa inputs, will keep them in mind. I will try looking for a seller muna, hindi pa naman masyadong urgent, kaya pang magtiis ng paa ko sa traffic for now, kapag walang makuhang buyer with my preferred price, sa ahente na.

Medyo gas guzzler pala ang AT avanza, no? Will look at other options. Hesitant lang ako sa sedan dahil medyo binabaha ang daanan ko pauwi.

Salamt ulit!

its because the engine is too small for the body....
by the looks of it bro, kailangan mo ng mataas. by trading your avanza + 50k lets say to get an innova, baka di kayanin.

Avanza Cost = 350k
Add ka ng 50k = 400k.

Market price ng Innova Diesel na AT (2005 model) = 450 - 480k.

mukhang kailangan mo lumabas ng Innova.

parang ang options mo are:

Hyundai Tucson - ranges from 420 - 480 A/T CRDI, 2007 - 2010 model.
Ford Escape (nakow, yari ka sa gas dito) - ranges from 280k - 395k (model 2005 - 2011)
Nissan X-Trail (nakow, isa pang yari ka sa gas dito) - ranges from 265k - 340k (model 2006 -2011)
X-Wind 2002 Model (AT) - 300k
Mitsu Adventure - not sure sa mga higher models, but 2001 models A/T diesel, costs around 200-220k.


muni-muni muna pare.

[dr. d]

diesel AT...
innova, crosswind.
i can't think of others in the same price range.

the innova MT's clutch pedal isn't that hard. i actually prefer driving it over my other ATs (altis, wigo). "a commanding presence with a royal feeling", if you may. and when caught in traffic, it's comfortable and not claustrophobic at all.
a revo diesel? try it, sir. ang gaan ng clutch. and hope a well-maintained model comes up.

[mathguro]

Salamat ulit. Kung sakaling may malaglag na biyaya, at makapagdagdag ako ng mga 150k, innova would be a good choice right? Thinking crv also for ride comfort pero baka kelanganin ko ng straw para sa panghigop nya ng gasolina.

[dr. d]

Salamat ulit. Kung sakaling may malaglag na biyaya, at makapagdagdag ako ng mga 150k, innova would be a good choice right? Thinking crv also for ride comfort pero baka kelanganin ko ng straw para sa panghigop nya ng gasolina.

"i have not yet met an innova owner, who rued the day he bought one."
no need for straw, po. minumumog niya straight from the baso. at, matagtag rin po ang crv. brother has.
heh heh.

[_Cathy_]

"i have not yet met an innova owner, who rued the day he bought one."
no need for straw, po. minumumog niya straight from the baso. at, matagtag rin po ang crv. brother has.
heh heh.

That's true. Everyone loves the innova. The current model is so expensive though

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[dr. d]

That's true. Everyone loves the innova. The current model is so expensive though

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yup!
and yup! just looking at the price tag, i don't like it, already.
time to go huntin' for a 2015, to replace our 2005... ayaw na kasi i-insure ng casa-based insurance.

[mathguro]

Oo nga, ang mahal ng innova na bago.

Medyo napapaisip ako since I've been playing around with the online autoloan calculators of banks. Parang kaya ko namang mag-amortize ng around 10k per month. So I can probably afford yung mga nasa 700k+ (avanza, ertiga). But I've always been lucky in buying 2nd hand cars kaya hesitant to buy brand new. Would you guys buy lower class AUV/LUV or 2nd hand higher model like innova, given the same budget? Slightly lower budget pala kung 2nd hand kasi mas mataas ang interest rate. Or buy what I can afford in cash?

[dr. d]

Oo nga, ang mahal ng innova na bago.

Medyo napapaisip ako since I've been playing around with the online autoloan calculators of banks. Parang kaya ko namang mag-amortize ng around 10k per month. So I can probably afford yung mga nasa 700k+ (avanza, ertiga). But I've always been lucky in buying 2nd hand cars kaya hesitant to buy brand new. Would you guys buy lower class AUV/LUV or 2nd hand higher model like innova, given the same budget? Slightly lower budget pala kung 2nd hand kasi mas mataas ang interest rate. Or buy what I can afford in cash?

unless you have somewhere to put your cash in, earning high interest, making your money work for you, 'ika nga, buying the car in cash would appear to be the cheaper deal, overall.

[mathguro]

Grabe, may bayanseller na nag-appraise ng avanza ko, 200K daw. Gusto kong sabihin, nasisiraan ka ba ng ulo? Grrrr.....

Super ayos pa nun, 63k mileage. Sa olx, nasa 320-380K ang range, ang layo sa 200k ha. Hay. Sensya na po, napa-rant lang.

[dr. d]

Grabe, may bayanseller na nag-appraise ng avanza ko, 200K daw. Gusto kong sabihin, nasisiraan ka ba ng ulo? Grrrr.....

Super ayos pa nun, 63k mileage. Sa olx, nasa 320-380K ang range, ang layo sa 200k ha. Hay. Sensya na po, napa-rant lang.

i guess, that's why some sellers put up front in their ads, "bayan sellers not welcome".

[keithdb]

Pardon the ignorance but what us a bayan seller?

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[dr. d]

Pardon the ignorance but what us a bayan seller?

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a play of words, po. "buy and sell agent". "buy and seller".
my apologies.

i have had dealings with them in the past. nakaka-inis talaga. i would rather not have to deal with them in the future.

tekateka... MT to AT thread ito. back to topic...

[jut703]

Grabe, may bayanseller na nag-appraise ng avanza ko, 200K daw. Gusto kong sabihin, nasisiraan ka ba ng ulo? Grrrr.....

Super ayos pa nun, 63k mileage. Sa olx, nasa 320-380K ang range, ang layo sa 200k ha. Hay. Sensya na po, napa-rant lang.

Just ignore them. When I first encountered these hagglers, I also lost my cool. But eventually you'll learn to tune out the noise and focus on serious buyers.


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[crosswind]

Grabe, may bayanseller na nag-appraise ng avanza ko, 200K daw. Gusto kong sabihin, nasisiraan ka ba ng ulo? Grrrr.....

Super ayos pa nun, 63k mileage. Sa olx, nasa 320-380K ang range, ang layo sa 200k ha. Hay. Sensya na po, napa-rant lang.

Sobrang barat niyan paps dapat 250k lang barat niya. Ganyan talaga mga buy n sell. I have a neighbor na buy n sell bought a 2006 toyota innova e for 300k tapos maibebenta iyon ng aroung 400-450k.

[mathguro]

Sobrang barat niyan paps dapat 250k lang barat niya. Ganyan talaga mga buy n sell. I have a neighbor na buy n sell bought a 2006 toyota innova e for 300k tapos maibebenta iyon ng aroung 400-450k.

Yun na nga e, di ako maiinsulto kung 250k man lang yung tawad.

Anyway, back to topic. Medyo sure na ako na ertiga ang bibilhin ko. Tanders na din ako kaya tinatamad nang maghanap ng 2nd hand. Kelangan na lang ibenta si vanzy muna. Mag-photoshoot kami mamaya.