Need Opinion: Best 2nd hand CUV at 700k

[Lakwatsero]

Hi everyone. Planning to transition from Civic FD to a CUV.
At 700-750k budget, what would you guys recommend?
This will be used as my daily driver Las Pinas to BGC after this pandemic.

Currently in the market scanning 2016 CR-V, CX-5 and Forester.

Things to consider:
1. Mostly solo passenger
2. 6 ft driver
3. Easy and cheap to maintain
4. AT and good FC
5. Good resale value

Thanks in advance!


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I'd consider the CX-5. Has a traditional AT with 6 forward gears and gets great fuel economy. You can do 9km/l with the 2.0L easy. If your budget can fit the 2.5L, that gets worse economy in exchange for AWD, sunroof and bose speakers. Legroom in the back is so-so if drivers seat is at furthest setting.

Reliability wise, hasn't had much problems since its release back in 2012. Just basic oil and other fluid changes. I-stop battery can be replaced with a regular Amaron, works just fine. Also runs on regular 91, unlike others which require 95.

[travajante]

A relative just landed a used '13 CX5 to replace his tired '05 diesel Innova....Pre-iStop model w/ just a lil over 50k kms clocked. Dealership maintained by ex-owner, pre-inspected prior to transfer & given a clean bill of health.
He now knows why 1st time Skyactiv owners won't mind getting 2nd, 3rd servings. Fun, efficient & they're aging pretty gracefully. Oh....they're so tunable, too. He's planning OVT soon.[emoji4]


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[Lakwatsero]

A relative just landed a used '13 CX5 to replace his tired '05 diesel Innova....Pre-iStop model w/ just a lil over 50k kms clocked. Dealership maintained by ex-owner, pre-inspected prior to transfer & given a clean bill of health.
He now knows why 1st time Skyactiv owners won't mind getting 2nd, 3rd servings. Fun, efficient & they're aging pretty gracefully. Oh....they're so tunable, too. He's planning OVT soon.[emoji4]


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Skyactiv was make or break for Mazda post-Ford ownership. Glad it worked out for them, we get to enjoy the end product.

That first-gen CX-5 is really a homerun. Even with the second gen model, the old one still is a looker 9 years on. And they're the ones sticking to traditional automatics, no fancy DCTs or CVTs.

Eagerly looking forward to the the third-gen with the supposed move to RWD and inline-6 cylinder motors taking the fight to the Euros.

[Walter]

DO NOT BUY a Subaru Forester if cheap and easy to maintain is one of your considerations ... just don't ...

[Egan101]

DO NOT BUY a Subaru Forester if cheap and easy to maintain is one of your considerations ... just don't ...

Any AWD CUV is not cheap and easy to maintain. If most people think that they would spend similar to a small car, then they should stop considering a bigger car.

The same applies to fuel consumption. Most CUVs and midsize cars only get around 6-7 km/l on city routes. If you start owning a bigger car, then expect to spend for more fuel. If you’re not willing to spend, then be happy with a Vios or City.

On a different note, we found it harder to maintain a VW Jetta TDI over a Subaru Forester. On the regular oil needs pa lang, mas mahal na yung sa Jetta TDI. We are still looking for a shop outside casa that can service its DSG tranny when the time comes it needs fluid replacement.

With all the CVT scare, how come most Asian manufacturers still opt for it? Honda, Toyota, Nissan, Subaru, and Mitsubishi use CVT for their models. I guess we should stop buying new Vios, City, Jazz, Altis, Civic, HRV, CRV, Impreza, XV, Forester, Sentra/Sylphy, Xtrail, etc. These will not be reliable in the long run since they have CVT trannies. I know Mazda kept on with AT but would most people consider a Mazda3 to be more reliable than a Civic or Altis?


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[travajante]

On a different note, we found it harder to maintain a VW Jetta TDI over a Subaru Forester. On the regular oil needs pa lang, mas mahal na yung sa Jetta TDI. We are still looking for a shop outside casa that can service its DSG tranny when the time comes it needs fluid replacement.

With all the CVT scare, how come most Asian manufacturers still opt for it? Honda, Toyota, Nissan, Subaru, and Mitsubishi use CVT for their models. I guess we should stop buying new Vios, City, Jazz, Altis, Civic, HRV, CRV, Impreza, XV, Forester, Sentra/Sylphy, Xtrail, etc. These will not be reliable in the long run since they have CVT trannies. I know Mazda kept on with AT but would most people consider a Mazda3 to be more reliable than a Civic or Altis?


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There is no denying the efficiency of CVTs. A smokescreen, really, as the required care, service & replacement of these trannies will keep jobs secure, dealerships happy. How much does a CVT fluid change episode cost? Every 30-40k km interval....vs an AT on 'lifetime' fluid you can do every 100k for a lil' over Php7k I spent w/ filter & double drain & fill? And when the CVT conks...how much is a new tranny against 1 that's rebuildable? Belt vs gears.....All about commerce, if one won't refuse to see. We're all taken for a ride.
Mazda isn't on the bandwagon as its Skyactiv engine+AT combo can easily give em CVT numbers. They tweaked the engine, raised compression, increased engine efficiency w/o forced induction. The result=less attention & worries.
Reliability? I can only share my experience. Our 7yr old hobo Sky3 ownership is up there w/ the best we've had...better than our old CRV at the same age & kms clocked. Out there & as young as these arw, 300k mi Skyactivs aren't uncommon. I won't expect it be LC80esque, but it has been a non-diva all this time....hope it'll continue to remain 1.

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[Egan101]

The CX5 was a key consideration when we chose a CUV for a vehicle back in 2016 but I felt that with a Mazda, it is the Mazda6 that sings to my heart. I would have went home happy with a Mazda6 sedan or wagon compared to a CX5. The Mazda6 is just a beautiful car. The same reason applies with an Accord over the CRV.

However, we chose the Forester XT instead - I was sold on it after I test drove it. The big trunk and interiors are very useful. The high ground clearance (same as PPVs) is just a bonus. On the road though, it is nimble for its size and it will tempt you to go faster as its capable AWD system keeps you on the planted on the ground all the time.


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[ray_noel]

Hi everyone. Planning to transition from Civic FD to a CUV.
At 700-750k budget, what would you guys recommend?
This will be used as my daily driver Las Pinas to BGC after this pandemic.

Currently in the market scanning 2016 CR-V, CX-5 and Forester.

Things to consider:
1. Mostly solo passenger
2. 6 ft driver
3. Easy and cheap to maintain
4. AT and good FC
5. Good resale value

Thanks in advance!


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Things to consider:
1. Mostly solo passenger - cx5
2. 6 ft driver?- forester-crv-cx5
3. Easy and cheap to maintain-tie
4. AT and good FC - crv diesel
5. Good resale value-crv diesel


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[Egan101]

If mostly solo passenger and no need for ground clearance, a Mazda6 or Accord is just head and shoulders over the usual compact or subcompact cars. Even compared to CUVs, midsize cars just feel more premium. CUVs and midsize cars are about the same in fuel expense and maintenance as they use similar engines.


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[hardwang]

Hi everyone. Planning to transition from Civic FD to a CUV.
At 700-750k budget, what would you guys recommend?
This will be used as my daily driver Las Pinas to BGC after this pandemic.

Currently in the market scanning 2016 CR-V, CX-5 and Forester.

Things to consider:
1. Mostly solo passenger
2. 6 ft driver
3. Easy and cheap to maintain
4. AT and good FC
5. Good resale value

Thanks in advance!


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Personally, if it were me looking for a used crossover with that budget I would get a Subaru Forester XT or a Ford Escape 2.0L Ecoboost. Of course I would check the condition of the car first. I tend to lean towards cars with higher horsepower compared to other similar priced vehicles but that is just me.

But based on your criteria, you cannot go wrong with a Toyota Rav4, a Mazda CX5 or a Honda CRV. They have similar fuel consumption and seem to be holding their resale value quite well. Although you have to be wary of the DI engine of the CX5 since direct injection engines tend to have gunked up back sides of the intake valves.

[Egan101]

For less maintenance cost, wag na yung AWD. Mas matipid din sa fuel yung FWD.


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[jojopad]

Nothing beats the CRV gen 1 when it comes to easy and cheap maintenance. Best in looks, a classic legend of the 90s.

I used this as my daily driver before buying the Mazda3 BN. Fuel economy on 30km 2 to 3 hour drive from Fairview to BGC averages 5 to 6 km/Li. I'm still using this 21yo CUV occasionally whenever I need to move a lot of stuff.

Spare parts are plentiful and cheap. Resale value is still relatively high.

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[travajante]

Nothing beats the CRV gen 1 when it comes to easy and cheap maintenance. Best in looks, a classic legend of the 90s.

I used this as my daily driver before buying the Mazda3 BN. Fuel economy on 30km 2 to 3 hour drive from Fairview to BGC averages 5 to 6 km/Li. I'm still using this 21yo CUV occasionally whenever I need to move a lot of stuff.

Spare parts are plentiful and cheap. Resale value is still relatively high.

What You Should Know Before Buying A 90's Honda CRV | The Ultimate Buyer's Guide!!! - YouTube

My brother(a true blue Honda guy) loved the gen1, hated so his gen2 that he skipped the gen 3 & went straight to a used gen4 when the current ones were already out. He says he'll never CVT....even if they're by the 1 badge he's loyal to. Guess it's genetic.[emoji4]
The gen1 CRV was a solid car. A worthy find now means it should've been genuinely pre-loved. The rubber parts & suspension pre-refreshed unless the buyer's a wrench or tinkerer.



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[Dr.Kamiya]

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[jojopad]

The gen1 CRV was a solid car. A worthy find now means it should've been genuinely pre-loved. The rubber parts & suspension pre-refreshed unless the buyer's a wrench or tinkerer.

Our's is still 1st hand all stock, original paint, maintenance DIY. Engine was top overhauled but everything else well maintained.

Except for the OEM head unit that died 5 years ago.

[travajante]

Our's is still 1st hand all stock, original paint, maintenance DIY. Engine was top overhauled but everything else well maintained.

Except for the OEM head unit that died 5 years ago.

A good car in good hands![emoji120][emoji106]

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[Dr.Kamiya]

My brother(a true blue Honda guy) loved the gen1, hated so his gen2 that he skipped the gen 3 & went straight to a used gen4 when the current ones were already out. He says he'll never CVT....even if they're by the 1 badge he's loyal to. Guess it's genetic.[emoji4]
The gen1 CRV was a solid car. A worthy find now means it should've been genuinely pre-loved. The rubber parts & suspension pre-refreshed unless the buyer's a wrench or tinkerer.



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What happened to your bro's Gen2? Lemon?

[travajante]

What happened to your bro's Gen2? Lemon?

I, too, had 1....twas was the 'lemoner' of the 2. Door seam rust crept & kept coming back even after multiple cracks at de-rusting....Quickly gave up for same age gen2 Rav 4. A much superior vehicle. Loved that 1.
The 2.0 gen2 CRV w/ a shoehorned 3rd row struggled to climb mild grades even w/o load. The AC somehow went in for multiple premature servicing....on his & mine. Ride quality was extremely jarring. Him coming from a gen1, was constantly heard cursing *#$%&€£¥. Haha. Suspension tweaks were a must to turn it bearable. Remorse + trauma of an ownership.
I'd reckon the AWD 2.4 had better-matched suspension & tranny/software combo against the maiden FWD.

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[Wh1stl3r]

Gen 1 Rav4 and CR-V brings back memories... Of the rich popular kids in school who had one hehe. Can't beat the OG models in terms of likeability. Similar to the Jimny today. Everyone liked them.

[jojopad]

I, too, had 1....twas was the 'lemoner' of the 2. Door seam rust crept & kept coming back even after multiple cracks at de-rusting....Quickly gave up for same age gen2 Rav 4. A much superior vehicle. Loved that 1.
The 2.0 gen2 CRV w/ a shoehorned 3rd row struggled to climb mild grades even w/o load. The AC somehow went in for multiple premature servicing....on his & mine. Ride quality was extremely jarring. Him coming from a gen1, was constantly heard cursing *#$%&€£¥. Haha. Suspension tweaks were a must to turn it bearable. Remorse + trauma of an ownership.
I'd reckon the AWD 2.4 had better-matched suspension & tranny/software combo against the maiden FWD.

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A friend had a CRV gen 2. I sat at the back seat and got really dizzy while we drove along edsa. I told my friend the ride of her crv was far from being comfortable compared to the gen 1. The gen 2 didn't fit the Comfortable Roundabout Vehicle which the CRV stands for [emoji23]