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    Hi guys. I need tips in buying my first car. I will be spending 300-400k. I prefer matic since I live in the metro. I have these choices: civic fd, city 2009+, jazz 2009+, altis 2008+, crv gen 1 or 2, mazda 3 09+, etc. May nakita rin akong mga santa fe 2007-08 with 420k price( baka marawan ko) sayang rin 7 seater rin. Need help guys. My primary concern is durability, fuel consumption, looks, maintenance cost. This will be a very important thing for me since this will be my 1st car. Thanks sa input guys, marami nakong nabasa pero sobrang torned ako sa choices at mga issues in buying. Thanks again

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jmkl View Post
    Hi guys. I need tips in buying my first car. I will be spending 300-400k. I prefer matic since I live in the metro. I have these choices: civic fd, city 2009+, jazz 2009+, altis 2008+, crv gen 1 or 2, mazda 3 09+, etc. May nakita rin akong mga santa fe 2007-08 with 420k price( baka marawan ko) sayang rin 7 seater rin. Need help guys. My primary concern is durability, fuel consumption, looks, maintenance cost. This will be a very important thing for me since this will be my 1st car. Thanks sa input guys, marami nakong nabasa pero sobrang torned ako sa choices at mga issues in buying. Thanks again

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    Hi. I have a 2007 Santa Fe CRDi. Excellent car loaded with features and performance to be more than worth the money, but in my experience not very fuel efficient, contrary to what most people say, and I have no idea why. Is it just isolated in my unit or are my route plus driving habits really that bad? 5-5.5 pure city driving despite my best efforts and a clean bill of health. Good thing it's a diesel then. Resulting fuel cost is similar to a typical 1.6 A/T gasoline sedan. Very thrifty in the highway for sure, but I haven't had a proper provincial run with it to back my claims with solid numbers yet. Another advantage it has is the ground clearance. Floods have been frequent in some places as of late.

    However, if FC is a paramount concern for you, I'd suggest a City or Jazz. No qualms with traditionally excellent Honda quality. Expectedly excellent performance (my friend's 2015 Jazz CVT accelerates faster to 100 stock than my Unichip tuned Santa Fe!) with an engine that has proven itself through the years since its introduction in the first Jazz way back in 2004, and which has since spread to 4 different Honda models in the country for 14 years and counting. If you're in the market for a spirited yet thrifty car that lasts, this is the one to get.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTi View Post
    Hi. I have a 2007 Santa Fe CRDi. Excellent car loaded with features and performance to be more than worth the money, but in my experience not very fuel efficient, contrary to what most people say, and I have no idea why. Is it just isolated in my unit or are my route plus driving habits really that bad? 5-5.5 pure city driving despite my best efforts and a clean bill of health. Good thing it's a diesel then. Resulting fuel cost is similar to a typical 1.6 A/T gasoline sedan. Very thrifty in the highway for sure, but I haven't had a proper provincial run with it to back my claims with solid numbers yet. Another advantage it has is the ground clearance. Floods have been frequent in some places as of late.

    However, if FC is a paramount concern for you, I'd suggest a City or Jazz. No qualms with traditionally excellent Honda quality. Expectedly excellent performance (my friend's 2015 Jazz CVT accelerates faster to 100 stock than my Unichip tuned Santa Fe!) with an engine that has proven itself through the years since its introduction in the first Jazz way back in 2004, and which has since spread to 4 different Honda models in the country for 14 years and counting. If you're in the market for a spirited yet thrifty car that lasts, this is the one to get.

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    5.5 km/l seems low. Are there any body else experiencing this? I am also having a hard time since the santa fe could fit in 7 people and the cleance could really help especially during rainy season

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jmkl View Post
    5.5 km/l seems low. Are there any body else experiencing this? I am also having a hard time since the santa fe could fit in 7 people and the cleance could really help especially during rainy season

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    Problem is we got the car just January last year, so I have no idea as to its consumption when it was younger. However, Central Diesel gave it a clean bill of health and said they could find nothing wrong with it. In terms of performance, there really is nothing wrong with it too. Acceleration is great, zero black smoke, no leaks whatsoever... But then most of the folks here say they get 8km/L thereabouts. Do take note that I drive during rush hour in QC-Manila heavy traffic most of the time. I also tend to have a rather heavy foot, not to mention that my car is chipped. But FC aside, it rides and drives like a dream or more precisely like a midsize sedan which is actually what its platform was based on. Fuel cost is at around 4k a month for me.

    Another option would be the 2nd gen Ford Everest. Even better ground clearance and flood wading capabilities, not to mention excellent off road capabilities should you get the 4x4. It will serve you well, just as long as you expect it to behave exactly as its pickup counterpart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTi View Post
    Problem is we got the car just January last year, so I have no idea as to its consumption when it was younger. However, Central Diesel gave it a clean bill of health and said they could find nothing wrong with it. In terms of performance, there really is nothing wrong with it too. Acceleration is great, zero black smoke, no leaks whatsoever... But then most of the folks here say they get 8km/L thereabouts. Do take note that I drive during rush hour in QC-Manila heavy traffic most of the time. I also tend to have a rather heavy foot, not to mention that my car is chipped. But FC aside, it rides and drives like a dream or more precisely like a midsize sedan which is actually what its platform was based on. Fuel cost is at around 4k a month for me.

    Another option would be the 2nd gen Ford Everest. Even better ground clearance and flood wading capabilities, not to mention excellent off road capabilities should you get the 4x4. It will serve you well, just as long as you expect it to behave exactly as its pickup counterpart.

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    I would expect same FC as you because my daily route is qc-ayala. Magastos masyado. Ford everest diesel? Hindj ba gas guzzler rin yun?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jmkl View Post
    I would expect same FC as you because my daily route is qc-ayala. Magastos masyado. Ford everest diesel? Hindj ba gas guzzler rin yun?

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    The 2.5 4x2 should be thriftier. By how much in my route I'm not sure since I do not own one. You can find the answers in the Everest threads though.

    And then again, you can always consider the ultimate appliance. The diesel Innova. [emoji38] If lacking in power, an FMIC and a chip can easily solve the problem.

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    Not to hijack the thread, but i also have a similar dilemma. buying a 2nd hand civic fd 1.8s versus an xtrail... same year 2007 to 2009. im more concerned on the maintenance cost in the long run.

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    Get the Honda Civic ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walter View Post
    Get the Honda Civic ...
    I second this. Get the Civic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by digitsman View Post
    Not to hijack the thread, but i also have a similar dilemma. buying a 2nd hand civic fd 1.8s versus an xtrail... same year 2007 to 2009. im more concerned on the maintenance cost in the long run.

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    Agree sa Civic. Another advantage of Honda is the 10k kms PMS interval.

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    Hi guys. May natipuhan nakong jazz 2009 and direct from seller ang contact ko. In case na bibilhin ko na talaga yung unit, anong mga paperworks ang kelangan ko? OR CR deed of sale? Pano pala process? Di kasi ako maalam and first car ko sana to

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jmkl View Post
    Hi guys. May natipuhan nakong jazz 2009 and direct from seller ang contact ko. In case na bibilhin ko na talaga yung unit, anong mga paperworks ang kelangan ko? OR CR deed of sale? Pano pala process? Di kasi ako maalam and first car ko sana to

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    it's in the LTO website, po.
    visit it.

    or just google it.
    ang dami.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jmkl View Post
    Hi guys. May natipuhan nakong jazz 2009 and direct from seller ang contact ko. In case na bibilhin ko na talaga yung unit, anong mga paperworks ang kelangan ko? OR CR deed of sale? Pano pala process? Di kasi ako maalam and first car ko sana to

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    I remember dito sa tsikot ko rin nalaman details about that. Try searching the past threads, very informative.

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    Photocopy of at least 2 IDs of the seller then have seller sign on the photocopy 3 times ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jmkl View Post
    Hi guys. May natipuhan nakong jazz 2009 and direct from seller ang contact ko. In case na bibilhin ko na talaga yung unit, anong mga paperworks ang kelangan ko? OR CR deed of sale? Pano pala process? Di kasi ako maalam and first car ko sana to

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    - original OR/CR
    - Deed of sale (much better if notorized)
    - 2 photocopy of IDs with 3 signature (much better govt id)
    - history of repairs (if mabusisi ka)
    - check lto and hpd para iwas abala

    Process, kaliwaan kayo... dapat kompleto na papers and bayad para wala nang hahabulin after transaction... after you get the car, process mo na rin for transfer of ownership. Iirc Same documents lang sa taas... goodluck!



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    just trying to add something to your choices. kung marunong kang kumalikot ng kotse, I suggest to look for a bmw e46. medj mahal ang pyesa pero reliable siya. i4 1.8l a/t models are priced 300k up. hindi pa masyadong luma ang itsura niya ngayon kahit 15 yrs+ na siya. naka euro car ka pa

    Kung ang commute mo naman ay sa heavy traffic, i'd suggest Hyundai accent diesel. may milagro tong kotseng to eh. kaya niya mag 15km/l kahit heavy traffic

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    Quote Originally Posted by AkiraMidori View Post
    just trying to add something to your choices. kung marunong kang kumalikot ng kotse, I suggest to look for a bmw e46. medj mahal ang pyesa pero reliable siya. i4 1.8l a/t models are priced 300k up. hindi pa masyadong luma ang itsura niya ngayon kahit 15 yrs+ na siya. naka euro car ka pa

    Kung ang commute mo naman ay sa heavy traffic, i'd suggest Hyundai accent diesel. may milagro tong kotseng to eh. kaya niya mag 15km/l kahit heavy traffic
    Di ako marunong sa pagkalikot haha. Although may good deal akong nakita na bmw pero for commute kasi. Accent diesel nagtataka ako bakit medyo mababa resale value

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jmkl View Post
    Di ako marunong sa pagkalikot haha. Although may good deal akong nakita na bmw pero for commute kasi. Accent diesel nagtataka ako bakit medyo mababa resale value

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    "because it's korean?"
    also, "because it has a hidden defect?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jmkl View Post
    Although may good deal akong nakita na bmw pero for commute kasi. Accent diesel nagtataka ako bakit medyo mababa resale value

    Possible money pit if not properly maintained ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jmkl View Post
    Di ako marunong sa pagkalikot haha. Although may good deal akong nakita na bmw pero for commute kasi. Accent diesel nagtataka ako bakit medyo mababa resale value

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    Accent diesel has fuel consumption that gives hybrids a run for their money, and at just a fraction of the purchase price. Just that Hyundai suspensions are not really the sturdiest, and injection pump and turbo problems can get really expensive when it comes to it. The latest Accent specs are also horrible. Couple of years back it used to offer projector headlights, 4 wheel discs, ABS, steering wheel controls and airbags. Now it has none of them! Befriend an Accent CRDi cab driver, and he'll tell you all the nitty gritty details of worst case scenarios in Accent CRDi ownership.

    On a more positive note... I drive an 11 year old Santa Fe with 83tkms on the clock. Clean bill of health from Central Diesel. You take care of the car, the car takes care of you.

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