ok..my budget is around 700k. If there is something cheaper that would be great but as for the subic thing, they are second hand right? well, my mom doesn't trust second hand cars and i think I also got that trait from her..as for the jimny, yup its a bit cramped (being small and all) but when you mean its unrefined and rought what does this mean? i'll only be using it mainly in the office, and probably during weekends out of town..not into the rough riding thing but probably in the future, who knows..