Fort Ever Mont - which is the best choice

[norelco]

Hi planning to upgrade from Honda CRV 99 (realtime 4x4) to the following current models available in the market , i have no experinece in regards with maintenance of Diesel Engine, i want to have it because of the good stories i heard about diesel engines mileage (km/L) ang ayaw ko lang yung Noise & Vibration. I already tried to drive Ford Everest 2013 & Toyota Fortuner 2013 ok naman ang ride and handling so ewan lang natin dito sa All New Ford Everest. I'm planning to buy this coming July.

Thanks

[GTi]

Personally I'd be a little iffy on the Everest especially with the notorious turbo and transmissions with the current Ranger.

Both the Fortuner and Montero have proven themselves with many years in the market, with the Montero being the more modern of the two. Both are outgoing models, it's up to you whether that is a good thing (reliability, abundance of parts, good deals) or not (ageing platform, fast becoming a late model).

If you're going for the TOTL 4x4 A/T variants, don't expect too much in terms of km/L, though you do get to fill up with fuel that is cheaper by P10/L. Maintenance cost isn't that much more expensive. You'd have to use at least semi synthetic motor oil at almost twice the volume dispensed in a typical gas engine and be religious with your oil changes if you want the car to last long without headaches.

[TholitzReloaded]

Personally I'd be a little iffy on the Everest especially with the notorious turbo and transmissions with the current Ranger.

Both the Fortuner and Montero have proven themselves with many years in the market, with the Montero being the more modern of the two. Both are outgoing models, it's up to you whether that is a good thing (reliability, abundance of parts, good deals) or not (ageing platform, fast becoming a late model).

If you're going for the TOTL 4x4 A/T variants, don't expect too much in terms of km/L, though you do get to fill up with fuel that is cheaper by P10/L. Maintenance cost isn't that much more expensive. You'd have to use at least semi synthetic motor oil at almost twice the volume dispensed in a typical gas engine and be religious with your oil changes if you want the car to last long without headaches.

I'd go for the All New Everest, been driving the All new Ranger for almost 2 years now.

[Jiggs]

My vote goes to Everest too, but pardon Norelco for hijacking your thread. Somehow related din naman sa Eve. Are the specs difference of the titanium against the Trend justifies the 100K price gap?

[loverlionus]

Are the specs difference of the titanium against the Trend justifies the 100K price gap?

Posted the detailed specs difference in the 2015 Everest thread.

[norelco]

Thanks for valuable insight mga bossing.. * Jiggs based on my understanding almost similar yung Trend & Titanium, the difference is yung 20" Rims ng Titanium & 18" naman sa Trend. Meron na kasi akong GO signal ng Bossing ko for current Fortuner G variant. My only worry it will becoming a late model after a couple months, just like Sir GTi said. that is true and i agree on that.. Then the itch will come in again.

[norelco]

Mukhang worth it naman yung 100K price difference for additional some features ng Trend & Titanium ng Everest

[Jiggs]

Ok thanks imho. Sa wheels & Rim pa nga Lang worth 100K na yun��. Just wanna get others opinion before we decide if Trend or Titanium.

Agree ko dun sa Fort within a few months, you'll be looking at the new Fort. And siempre the feeling of if I could have waited Lang sana��. at least sa Eve. Matagal pa yan ulit mag full change ng model.

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Ok thanks imho. Sa wheels & Rim pa nga Lang worth 100K na yun😉. Just wanna get others opinion before we decide if Trend or Titanium.

Agree ko dun sa Fort within a few months, you'll be looking at the new Fort. And siempre the feeling of if I could have waited Lang sana😀. at least sa Eve. Matagal pa yan ulit mag full change ng model.

[CVT]

Ok thanks imho. Sa wheels & Rim pa nga Lang worth 100K na yun��. Just wanna get others opinion before we decide if Trend or Titanium.

Agree ko dun sa Fort within a few months, you'll be looking at the new Fort. And siempre the feeling of if I could have waited Lang sana��. at least sa Eve. Matagal pa yan ulit mag full change ng model.

Bro,- I think the difference between the 17"(?) wheels of the Ambiente vs. the 18"(?) wheels of the Trend (or the 18"(?) wheels of the Trend vs the 20"(?) wheels of the Titanium) would not be P100K...

Yup,- but you have to add some more dough in your budget for the newer model of either the Fortuner or the MS.....


"The measure of a man is what he does with power" LJIOHF!

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[jut703]

Bro,- I think the difference between the 17"(?) wheels of the Ambiente vs. the 18"(?) wheels of the Trend (or the 18"(?) wheels of the Trend vs the 20"(?) wheels of the Titanium) would not be P100K...

Yup,- but you have to add some more dough in your budget for the newer model of either the Fortuner or the MS.....


"The measure of a man is what he does with power" LJIOHF!

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Aabot bro ng 100k kung 20" OEM rims tapos Goodyear yung tires.

Ngayon kasi yung mga Black Rhino and Nitto na 20s, nasa ganun na ang price. Nitto isn't even a high-end tyre brand (although for some reason, pinoys think it's high-end when internationally it's just so-so).

[CVT]

Aabot bro ng 100k kung 20" OEM rims tapos Goodyear yung tires.

Ngayon kasi yung mga Black Rhino and Nitto na 20s, nasa ganun na ang price. Nitto isn't even a high-end tyre brand (although for some reason, pinoys think it's high-end when internationally it's just so-so).

Agree with the price of the 20" wheels bro, per se.

However, we have to consider the 18" wheels and get the difference in their prices to compare the price difference of the 2 variants (Trend vs. Titanium)...

Anyway, sabi nga nila,- if you have the dough, then go for the TOTL variant.....



"The measure of a man is what he does with power" LJIOHF!

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[yebo]

Aabot bro ng 100k kung 20" OEM rims tapos Goodyear yung tires.

Ngayon kasi yung mga Black Rhino and Nitto na 20s, nasa ganun na ang price. Nitto isn't even a high-end tyre brand (although for some reason, pinoys think it's high-end when internationally it's just so-so).

correct, nitto tires are budget tires in the US but here it is sold as premium tires. it is not unusual to see nitto tires advertised in 0lx at 100k for a set of 4. achilles tires from indonesia is ranked same as nitto in quality but one can get the same size and type tires from achilles at no more than 50% the price nitto is sold locally. nakakatawa lang yung mga nasa 4x4 forums na bibili ng nitto tapos after a few weeks (sometimes only days) binebenta na yung nitto nila to buy a known brand.

Bakit kasi kung alin yung supposedly offroad variant ang low profile tire.

which just shows you what is in ford's mind, form over function. well, dapat lang nga siguro kasi madaming pinoy ang mahilig lang sa porma.

[loverlionus]

I've read it before in their respective threads by can't recall now. When are the confirmed launches for the Fortuner and Montero full model changes?

[TholitzReloaded]

I've read it before in their respective threads by can't recall now. When are the confirmed launches for the Fortuner and Montero full model changes?

not sure but I have not seen an all new montero, but you can checkout the all new strada which perhaps will be the basis for the all new montero.

I have not seen the full model change for the fort as well, i'd go for the everest though one thing that I don't like with the eve is the resale value it seems pinoy has this mentality that when its ford its gotta be expensive to maintain and also for the parts which is totally not true, even fortuner and montero parts and casa maintenance is expensive.

I hope pinoys would change their perception with Ford vehicles.

[Egan101]

not sure but I have not seen an all new montero, but you can checkout the all new strada which perhaps will be the basis for the all new montero.

I have not seen the full model change for the fort as well, i'd go for the everest though one thing that I don't like with the eve is the resale value it seems pinoy has this mentality that when its ford its gotta be expensive to maintain and also for the parts which is totally not true, even fortuner and montero parts and casa maintenance is expensive.

I hope pinoys would change their perception with Ford vehicles.

Pinoy consumers have that mindset that is more driven by perception or misconceptions. Once you get tagged or branded, it will be hard for folks to take away such a stigma. This does not apply on consumer products only but to how most common folks deal with others. However, a positive tag does help even if such a mindset put a false state of pride (like how Honda markets itself as a premium brand locally when there is nothing premium about it compared with Toyota or Nissan or Mazda).

[wrcastro_ph]

mga differences ng Ford Everest Ambiente / Trend / Titanium


ALL NEW EVEREST SRP AND VARIANTS

*2.2L 4X2 Ambiente MT- 1,399,000
*2.2L 4X2 Ambiente AT- 1,399,000
*2.2L 4X2 Trend AT- 1,539,000
*2.2L 4X2 Titanium AT- 1,639,000
*3.2L 4X4 Titanium AT- 1,899,000


Ambiente:
265/65 R17
Molded skid plate
Painted Liftgate appliqué
Single zone AC
Gen1 SYNC
4" touch screen
8 speaker
1 USB

Trend-same as Ambiente except:
265/60R18
Projector HL with auto on/off
Painted skid plate
Chrome grill
Body color door handles and side mirror with signal lamp
Power fold side mirrors
Running board
Rain sensing wiper
Chrome Liftgate appliqué
LED tail lamp
DRL
Leather seats
Power seat 8 way adjust
Leather gear shift
Chrome park lever
Dual auto AC
Gen2 SYNC
8" touch screen
10 speaker
2 USB
Audio in, SD card
Cruise control
Seat side, curtain airbag
Alarm battery back up
Rear park assist

Titanium-same as Trend except:
265/50R20
Chrome door handles and side mirror with signal lamp
Heated, puddle lamp, blind spot info system side mirrors
Running board with chrome accent
Illuminated visor mirror
Illuminated scuff plates
Ambient lightiing
Glove box lock
Electrochromic rear view mirror
Cargo management system
Driver's knee airbag
Front park assist
Rear view camera
Adjustable speed limiter
My Key

[Juan Martinez]

Pinoy consumers have that mindset that is more driven by perception or misconceptions. Once you get tagged or branded, it will be hard for folks to take away such a stigma. This does not apply on consumer products only but to how most common folks deal with others. However, a positive tag does help even if such a mindset put a false state of pride (like how Honda markets itself as a premium brand locally when there is nothing premium about it compared with Toyota or Nissan or Mazda).

with all due respect, sir, i beg to differ. majority of Filipinos now have reached that level of consciousness in getting their needs or wants are driven not so much by brand names but by what is best suited for their budget or the best value for their money or the bang-for-the-buck concept. That is called, for lack of a better term, consumer pragmatism.
how else can we explain that the car market today is no longer monopolized by the "big names" in the automotive industry. globalization, information at out finger tips, and internet forum like tsikot are catalysts in altering this outdated, nay outmoded perception. "time has upset many fighting faiths," so they say, and it has never been a truer postulate than today. household names or brands of old, like tupperware (when referring to plastic container) or vitsen (monosodium glutamate) or colgate (when referring to tooth paste), saw the beginning of their ends. and how else can we explain the saturation of the market of inexpensive articles sold by stores like CDR king and Japanese shops?
BTT i go also for the titanium. for me (based on the 2015 ford eve thread) it's bang for the buck.

[Lew_Alcindor]

with all due respect, sir, i beg to differ. majority of Filipinos now have reached that level of consciousness in getting their needs or wants are driven not so much by brand names but by what is best suited for their budget or the best value for their money or the bang-for-the-buck concept. That is called, for lack of a better term, consumer pragmatism.
how else can we explain that the car market today is no longer monopolized by the "big names" in the automotive industry. globalization, information at out finger tips, and internet forum like tsikot are catalysts in altering this outdated, nay outmoded perception. "time has upset many fighting faiths," so they say, and it has never been a truer postulate than today. household names or brands of old, like tupperware (when referring to plastic container) or vitsen (monosodium glutamate) or colgate (when referring to tooth paste), saw the beginning of their ends. and how else can we explain the saturation of the market of inexpensive articles sold by stores like CDR king and Japanese shops?
BTT i go also for the titanium. for me (based on the 2015 ford eve thread) it's bang for the buck.

Show us the sales figures or this is just BS.
My bet is that the top vehicle sellers are still the big Japanese names except maybe for hyundai which really has captured some of the market share.

[oist123]

Hi planning to upgrade from Honda CRV 99 (realtime 4x4) to the following current models available in the market , i have no experinece in regards with maintenance of Diesel Engine, i want to have it because of the good stories i heard about diesel engines mileage (km/L) ang ayaw ko lang yung Noise & Vibration. I already tried to drive Ford Everest 2013 & Toyota Fortuner 2013 ok naman ang ride and handling so ewan lang natin dito sa All New Ford Everest. I'm planning to buy this coming July.

Thanks

Boss I think there's a typo on the max torque of all new everest based on your image. baka 385Nm instead of 285Nm? The 285Nm was the max torque of the old non-crdi WLT engine of ranger & everest

[norelco]

* oist123 yes Correct ka sir, typo error 385nm - 1600 - 2500 rpm