China cars

[JamesRichard]

I'm planning to buy a king long univan mukhang ok naman sya. Isuzu engine.. Pero wala pa ako na kikita tumatakbo sa kalsada. Mukhang ako palang Kung nag kataon ang gagamit nito as UV service... Ok kaya Ito pang pasada? Mga ka-tsikot Meron na ba sa inyo nakaka alam ng univan ng king long? Advice naman bago ako bumili...

[E240]

I'm planning to buy a king long univan mukhang ok naman sya. Isuzu engine.. Pero wala pa ako na kikita tumatakbo sa kalsada. Mukhang ako palang Kung nag kataon ang gagamit nito as UV service... Ok kaya Ito pang pasada? Mga ka-tsikot Meron na ba sa inyo nakaka alam ng univan ng king long? Advice naman bago ako bumili...

May mga nikikita ako di samin pero rare. Why do you consider buying china?

[JamesRichard]

Mas mura kasi sir ang monthly compare sa urvan. Pang business Lang po talaga. My 2 years warranty pa unlike sa mga branded void na ang warranty pag yellow plate na. Maganda pa ang offer nila na free dropping and substitution sa franchise, sila na ang mag process ng papers sa ltfrb meaning walang sakit ng ulo sa paper works... Kaya Lang, yun nga china.. Bago sa pandinig ko ang univan nila pero mtagal ko na din alam ang king long dahil sa mga bus nila na bumabyahe din sa Edsa...

[E240]

Compute mo sir pag panalo ka sa 2 year warranty go for it and marami pa pala advantages eh. Nag bigay sila 2 year warranty i think pwede na rin basta mura naman unit. Yun lang china yan even private used or not definetly pag binenta wala ng halaga. Marami naman sigurong pyesa yan sa casa nila.

[jodski]

Sa provincial buses marami na ako napapansin na kumukuha ng King Long na yan and I happened to have a chance to ride them so far ok naman with regards sa ride quality and sa aircon malamig pa rin... To early to say nga lang sa durability standpoint kasi wala pang 2 years yung napapansin ko

Sa case mo naman I would just say good luck on your decision and sana balitaan mo rin kami if ever matuloy sa brand na yan. I haven't seen one din kasi roaming around as UV Express na ganyang brand.

Laging question that comes to mind naman para sa ganyang case is availability of parts and how much if ever nagka problem ka ...

[GTi]

Perhaps you can ask the drivers of those King Long buses about its durability and reliability. I remember not long ago there was a huge influx of Chinese buses which replaced the ageing Japanese fleet of bus companies. But then I don't see that many new Chinese buses anymore. I see more new Hyundai buses instead. And then I've seen quite a number of new Chinese buses smoke belching already...

The Univan seems nice. Its basically an extended wheelbase previous gen Hiace with a 4JB1 turbo engine, so there shouldn't be many problems with parts. But then I am still unconvinced as to its rustproofing and reliability of materials used.

[rollyic]

ano kayang balita dito?
nakakuha kaya si TS?

[victorevolution]

Perhaps you can ask the drivers of those King Long buses about its durability and reliability. I remember not long ago there was a huge influx of Chinese buses which replaced the ageing Japanese fleet of bus companies. But then I don't see that many new Chinese buses anymore. I see more new Hyundai buses instead. And then I've seen quite a number of new Chinese buses smoke belching already...

The Univan seems nice. Its basically an extended wheelbase previous gen Hiace with a 4JB1 turbo engine, so there shouldn't be many problems with parts. But then I am still unconvinced as to its rustproofing and reliability of materials used.

yup now hyundai and philhino(santa rosa bus body) is dominating the market, king long, higer and alot of chinese auto really sucks, we used to see this china made bus in alabang viaduct a few years ago, at first i was impressed, since it has this features such as airbag shocks and 3 lcd monitors plus two speakers every seat... but law and behold after a month or so the crappy interior rapidly deteriorated and after two months the engine failed.

and they were replaced by Hyundai global universe series of buses but there are still a hundred of this china made crap still roaming around

as per my experience and this is not hearsay, i saw one higer bus that suddenly stopped on the exit ramp on skyway (while i was about to enter via the other side this caused a little traffic jam) this was around 9:00 pm and suddenly the bus started moving again as the driver was shouting BABA BABA... then the bus rammed the side impact railing of the exit ramp and nearly tumbled down(good this the bus never had momentum to destroy the railing) but the weird thing about it is there are some gallant people who used their bare hands to push and hold the bus back while it was moving(but the bus nearly ran them over)

i asked our family driver what could have been the caused of such mishap(our driver used to be a bus driver) the driver told me that the bus might have been an automatic transmission and that caused the trouble

[renzo_d10]

^ SUA, bus-version?

[ice15]

share ko lang dito and may be, may sense yung mga naiisip ko...

I have colleagues/friends who are very happy with their Geelys, BYDs and MGs

Due for a replacement na City namin and mainly, daughter ko na gumagamit... umaaray na din ako sa gas kasi ang traffic ng byahe nya every day.

So Yaris Cross HEV (1,610,000) vs BYD Sealion 6 DM-i (1,548,000)
*nothing is fixed right now, baka maglabas ng smaller Crossover si BYD, baka maglabas ng next gen Kicks ang Nissan... pero for this post, si BYD muna focus ko.

62K difference
Plug-in hybrid si BYD (yung ex colleague ko can't remember kung kelan pa gas nya).
we feel na bigger din interior ni BYD

Now my concerns with BYD...

Kamusta kaya magiging support ni AC Mobility in the years to come. Feeling ko napabayaan na nila ang Honda and Kia since mas madali mabenta si BYD ngayon, paano in year 5 onwards kung may bagong brand na mas maayos/mabenta?

May plan kaya si BYD maglabas ng 2nd Gen ng cars nila? parang puro 1st Gen nasa line-up nila ngayon.

Design Philosophy (e.g. Dynamic Shield, Soul of Motion etc) - parang wala sa BYD, minsan nga feeling ko di magkaka-mukha cars nila.

[carxynogen]

share ko lang dito and may be, may sense yung mga naiisip ko...

I have colleagues/friends who are very happy with their Geelys, BYDs and MGs

Due for a replacement na City namin and mainly, daughter ko na gumagamit... umaaray na din ako sa gas kasi ang traffic ng byahe nya every day.

So Yaris Cross HEV (1,610,000) vs BYD Sealion 6 DM-i (1,548,000)
*nothing is fixed right now, baka maglabas ng smaller Crossover si BYD, baka maglabas ng next gen Kicks ang Nissan... pero for this post, si BYD muna focus ko.

62K difference
Plug-in hybrid si BYD (yung ex colleague ko can't remember kung kelan pa gas nya).
we feel na bigger din interior ni BYD

Now my concerns with BYD...

Kamusta kaya magiging support ni AC Mobility in the years to come. Feeling ko napabayaan na nila ang Honda and Kia since mas madali mabenta si BYD ngayon, paano in year 5 onwards kung may bagong brand na mas maayos/mabenta?

May plan kaya si BYD maglabas ng 2nd Gen ng cars nila? parang puro 1st Gen nasa line-up nila ngayon.

Design Philosophy (e.g. Dynamic Shield, Soul of Motion etc) - parang wala sa BYD, minsan nga feeling ko di magkaka-mukha cars nila.

Currently observing din nito, parang most China cars, puro first gen dinudump ila dito.
If you check Geely, parang walang halos release na succeeding generations sa line-up nila.
Yan yung risk nyo po, hindi ba mahalintulad kay Geely si BYD na naka stuck sa 1st Gen w/o follow-up offering yung mga line-up nila.

[GTcervan]

Hindi naman siguro lahat pero dama yung tunog lata sa pinto, hard plastics sa loob pati tigas ng mga upuan sa mga bagong toyota. Matagtag pa nga kahit patag naman sa expressway tas limang sakay plus mga gamit. At least base sa nasakyan kong bagong perodua-badged na avanza papuntang klia. Akala ko pa nga toyota rush nung una. Eh yung yaris cross sa local market daihatsu-based din ang platform. Same daihatsu brand na nasangkot sa safety scandal.

Otoh, todo effort ang chinese brands sa pagbibigay ng solid and premium feel tsaka magandang pricing sa mga new cars nila. Pero mas kampante parin mga tao sa established brands. Sana ginaya sila ng korean brands na alam nating overpriced tapos underspecced naman since dati pa. Kaso bulok din kasi yung mga tariffs na meron dito sa bansa tapos yung mga local distributors kagaya ng hari, columbian auto tsaka ayala din siguro, halos walang pakielam sa kanila.

[ice15]

^last year lang ata naging tax free ang cars natin from Korea... pero I think medyo too late na
Customs duties levied on imported cars

[ice15]

Currently observing din nito, parang most China cars, puro first gen dinudump ila dito.
If you check Geely, parang walang halos release na succeeding generations sa line-up nila.
Yan yung risk nyo po, hindi ba mahalintulad kay Geely si BYD na naka stuck sa 1st Gen w/o follow-up offering yung mga line-up nila.

yup. yup. just look at the Coolray. 7 years old na yung current model nya. wala pa din 2nd Gen.

basically, gusto ko din makita product cycle nila. at least sa Japanese brands, alam natin na may new model every 5-7 years.

2nd Gen MG ZS was released last year... para wala pa din dito

[ice15]

Nothing against our Zenix Hybrid naman. We're getting 15-25km/l

I'm sure halos ganun din si Yaris Cross.

Pero again, parang ang saya lang ng idea to have the chance to use a charger (kung may free slot sa mall). tapos free na next 100kms mo.

kaya palagi kong naiisip... handa na ba ako mag Chinese car?

sa totoo lang, Oppo or Huawei nga di ko kaya... 1.6M pa kaya na Chinese car.

pero there's always a first time...

[GTcervan]

Oo nga noh, hindi pa pala bagong generation yung mga models na dinadala nila rito. Pero in fairness, hindi din halata since hindi sila palasak sa kalsada tapos onte parin siguro mga familiar sa mga brands nila. Yung ibang models ata jan, at least facelift meron sila? Tulad ng sa coolray.

[ice15]

just did a quick search...
BYD e6 - Wikipedia

Yung 1st Gen BYD e6 pala was released in 2009 (madami noon ito sa Singapore as Grab/Taxi)

Yung 2nd Gen was released in 2021 (not available locally)

[bxr monkey]

Hindi nga maganda track record ng AC Motors sa long term ownership.

Para sa price range, sa Corolla Cross G ako. Nice to have naman sa akin ang ADAS.

[Sweetlucious]

Hindi nga maganda track record ng AC Motors sa long term ownership.

True, a friend’s golf gti was sitting in his garage for close to a year na kasi walang parts IIRC suspension parts.

[ice15]

Hindi nga maganda track record ng AC Motors sa long term ownership.

Yung Honda Makati. text na text na its time for my PMS. I told them when the car turned 6 na sa odo na ako mag-base ng PMS since hindi naman nagagamit yung car.

Para sa price range, sa Corolla Cross G ako. Nice to have naman sa akin ang ADAS.

Agree... naisip ko din yang Corolla Cross... pero super nakaka-inis na wala syang ADAS. ang hirap bilhin.