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    i'm looking for a second hand car with a 200k (more or less) budget. a small car will do coz im also after the fuel efficiency. right now, i am offered an alto deluxe 2007 for 235k with the following specs: 98k mileage, sun visor, roof rail, mud guard, plate guards, 13" mags (july 2010), all power, anti carnap device, keyless entry, new battery, new wiper blade, new clutch disc (casa replaced oct 2010), brand new laminated windshield, 3M, hella fog lamps (dec 2010), and 90% good year tires.

    i haven't tested the car yet, but considering that it would run smooth, do you think this is a good deal? or do i scout for other types of car? this would be my first car if ever and i'm admittedly such a dummy on this ... i'm also considering 2nd hand picantos. are 2nd hand kei cars still reliable? really need the inputs of car gurus here, thanks a lot

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    i have nothing against the alto. and im a firm believer that its not all about mileage but all about proper maintenance. but a 3year old car, a small car that is, with 100k mileage? unless its a typo, i suggest you look else where.

    a picanto is a good option but its in the 270k+ territory i believe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dcph172 View Post
    i have nothing against the alto. and im a firm believer that its not all about mileage but all about proper maintenance. but a 3year old car, a small car that is, with 100k mileage? unless its a typo, i suggest you look else where.

    a picanto is a good option but its in the 270k+ territory i believe.
    it's really 98k, confirmed it with the seller, though he insists na city driving. that's why i'm also hesitant

    i find it hard to find second hand picantos, most are 2005 models and i would really prefer a 2006 or 2007. kahit 270k maybe i will go for it coz i have heard good things about the car and i find it cute Does this mean that picanto owners are satisfied with their cars and not selling? Getz on the other hand costs more.

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    Did you ask why he changed the clutch disk, considering that the car is still relatively new?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mazingerZ View Post
    Did you ask why he changed the clutch disk, considering that the car is still relatively new?
    i haven't, kala ko normal lang to change it after 3 yrs hehehe boba talaga ako in this area, will ask him. thanks!


    thanks for the links! bad of me for not checking sulit, sa ayos and adpost ako tumingin. will check them out now i have not considered chevy coz i thought that their maintenance cost/parts are high, correct me if i'm wrong. it is cute though thanks!

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    Kakatakot naman, 2007 lang 98k na kaagad ang mileage. Yung 2002 na Trooper nga namin 69k lang ang mileage. And since napalitan na ng clutch, I'd be led to believe na laspag na laspag na yan. And all of that 98k on city driving? The car is lacking in power too. I'd rather have a 2003 Honda City Type-Z , far more powerful, more spacious, more comfortable and is a Honda. Wag na sub-subcompact, that is too much already.

    Eto gusto mo?
    http://www.sulit.com.ph/index.php/vi...da+City+Type+Z

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    Mukhang babae yung TS. I think she's better off with an automatic picanto. Cheap to run. Cheap to drive. Unlike the spark, chevy eh .. baka mahal maintenance.

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    *GTi: thanks, i'm gonna pass on the Alto na kahit sinasabi pa na di raw laspag considering nga na pinalitan na yung clutch. thanks din sa link but renzo_d10 (salamat sa suggestion ) is right, i am a girl and that would be my first car. i really prefer something small, economical, and easy to maneuver

    i am looking for a picanto now. hirap kasi sa ibang ads di sumasagot sa simpleng tanong ko kung available pa units

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    Ah... ganun pala... I'm not a big fan of the Picanto, and I haven't fully warmed up with the Kia brand yet. The Kia Pride ruined my impression of the brand. And the Picanto's engine is just too horrid for me. Ever considered the Hyundai Getz? Its bigger than the Picanto and the CRDi variant is very nice if you're willing to spend a bit of an extra and the 1.4 variant would also do nicely as well.

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    *GTi: thanks for the suggestions. i've heard good things nga about Getz pero with my budget i guess yung 2005 model lang mahahanap ko. Do you think ok pa yun as long as well-maintained? thanks!

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    Any car that is lovingly maintained is a good car. Our family can attest to that, as every car that we sell is immediately snapped up and at a very, very good price with the buyer more than willing to buy without negotiating. Through time, we have had two cars, the 1989 Sentra and 2002 Trooper, that are known to be "lemons" and yet when the Sentra was sold, it was still in good running condition and the paintwork and interior is almost the same as it was when it first came to us. The Trooper, uptil now has served us very well. Its engine performance and ride is very good. The leather seats are almost the same as when it was newly bought. We have never encountered any repairs that would entail costs higher than 50k (changing of the turbo and injectors included). In fact, our Trooper is in much better condition than many 2003-2005 Troopers. A 2005 car is still quite new, as long as it isn't used a lot, its still very much worth buying as long as it wasn't affected by Ondoy. I also rather like the Getz's styling, the front end looks quite sporty. If you can, I strongly suggest you go for the diesel variant. Its the same unit as the one in the Accent which goes without saying that this one pulls hard and is very thrifty.

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    ^ Just a warning :

    Modern diesel vehicles has higher maintenance compared to those of their gasoline counterparts.

    And I don't consider second hand getzes as bang-for-the-buck nor worth it. For the price of it, you could get hold of a 2nd hand honda city or yet a Nissan Sentra. 2 bigger cars and they're much more practical.

    Though the getz looks nicer than the Picanto, their maintenance ( gas vs. gas ) is roughly the same. And since Kia is the partner(??) of Hyundai ... I think there's an assurance that the Picanto wont break down that easily the same with the getz.

    Here's my list for the TS. According to preference.

    1. Kia Picanto
    2. Hyundai Getz < Honda City A/T. Toyota Vios A/T. Nissan Sentra N16.

    Far far far end --> Suzuki Alto.

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    ^ Just a warning :

    Modern diesel vehicles has higher maintenance compared to those of their gasoline counterparts.

    And I don't consider second hand getzes as bang-for-the-buck nor worth it. For the price of it, you could get hold of a 2nd hand honda city or yet a Nissan Sentra. 2 bigger cars and they're much more practical.

    Though the getz looks nicer than the Picanto, their maintenance ( gas vs. gas ) is roughly the same. And since Kia is the partner(??) of Hyundai ... I think there's an assurance that the Picanto wont break down that easily the same with the getz.

    Here's my list for the TS. According to preference.

    1. Kia Picanto
    2. Hyundai Getz < Honda City A/T. Toyota Vios A/T. Nissan Sentra N16.

    Far far far end --> Suzuki Alto.

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    Thanks for the tips and suggestions guys! These 2 cars (Getz and Picanto) are on top of my list right now. Hope i can find one soon that fits the budget. The good deals gets off the market real quick! Twice na ko naunahan Sana I get lucky na next time, if not then it will be Honda or Toyota (really? may vios na pasok sa budget ko? hmm).

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    I don't think there would be a Vios that wasn't Ondoy'd, stolen or involved in an accident that would be selling for 200k even if it was previously serving as a cab. Toyota cars' resale values are just too high! Hell, you won't even be able to find a ten year old Corolla selling for 200k. I agree with bro. renzo that it would be a good choice also to look for bigger cars that are a wee bit older like the Honda City (for your budget you can get the Type-Z model) or the Nissan Sentra (which though boring is actually quite comfortable).

    Here's a 2003 Exalta, its got a 1.6L engine, leather seats and all of those luxury niceties. http://www.sulit.com.ph/index.php/vi...+Nissan+Sentra

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    Oh, forgot to mention that it also has dual airbags, ABS, LCD screen aside from the aforementioned beige leather interior and wood trim and best of all is selling for a negotiable price of 250k. Bagay na bagay sa babae, I should say, kulay pula pa!

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    Quote Originally Posted by pastelrei View Post
    Thanks for the tips and suggestions guys! These 2 cars (Getz and Picanto) are on top of my list right now. Hope i can find one soon that fits the budget. The good deals gets off the market real quick! Twice na ko naunahan Sana I get lucky na next time, if not then it will be Honda or Toyota (really? may vios na pasok sa budget ko? hmm).
    it would be a monumental accomplishment if you can get a fresh 2006-2007 toyota or honda * 200k.

    i would go for the picanto. its really cheap to maintain and wont chew up much on your pocket to fill up the gas tank. picantos have strong resale values for the very same reason that people want them.

    its fun looking for 2nd hand units lalo na kung cash buyer. its a lot easier to negotiate prices. dont be fooled by the asking price, nangangarap lang yung mga seller. im sure that with an hour of haggling the price and being firm on your offer you can get the best deal. the best advise i could give is to be patient and avoid buy and sell people.

    EDIT: *gti

    a decade old toyota love life goes for 200k or even less.
    Last edited by archie123456789; January 17th, 2011 at 12:27 AM.

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    thanks sa suggestions!

    i know, suntok sa buwan na ang 2006 na honda or toyota

    I really like Picanto's look. Ang Getz naman mas roomy ang interior. Ok na ko either of the 2, it's just a matter of finding a good deal. 2nd hand Picantos (which I can afford huh) are hard to find and my options are more limited coz I do avoid buy-and-sell people. Patience talaga. Refresh muna ko ng driving and ayos license while searching

    *archie123456789: are you saying that Picanto is cheaper to maintain compared to Getz? thanks!

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    ^^ umm not exactly sure. ive seen parts for picanto and it was cheap! hehe

    alam ko getz is also cheap to run but i have no direct experience on this.

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need a second hand kei car, 200k budget, suggestions pls?