BRZ/86 PMS Cost vs. WRX PMS cost

[Kath_Tzikot]

Hi guys,
Planning on getting a used 86/brz or wrx and will be using as a sunday car. Kamusta PMS cost nitong dalawa if outside casa ipapaservice like motech? alin ba ang mas reliable? kamusta kaya mga presyo ng wear-and-tear parts nito? i like the wrx since praktikal sya, 4door and ung rumble sound<3 pero nagwoworry ako sa magiging PMS. Currently own a 2016 altis and around 4-5k lang gastos ko every PMS. Salamat mga boss!

[Egan101]

Hi guys,
Planning on getting a used 86/brz or wrx and will be using as a sunday car. Kamusta PMS cost nitong dalawa if outside casa ipapaservice like motech? alin ba ang mas reliable? kamusta kaya mga presyo ng wear-and-tear parts nito? i like the wrx since praktikal sya, 4door and ung rumble sound<3 pero nagwoworry ako sa magiging PMS. Currently own a 2016 altis and around 4-5k lang gastos ko every PMS. Salamat mga boss!

The WRX is quicker and faster (more powerful turbo engine) than the BRZ but the BRZ drives better as some would say. The WRX is more practical as it can sit 5 people and with a good-sized trunk. If you’re the family man and you need more luggage space, you can opt for the Forester XT as it shares the same turbo engine also as the WRX.

In terms of maintenance, you just need to follow the prescribed maintenance guidelines listed in the manual. Both the WRX and BRZ share the same engine platform (FA20) except the WRX has a turbocharger. A normal change oil requires 5.5L of FS oil, 5w30 viscosity, API SN/ILSAC GF5 rating plus the specific oil filter for the FA20. Air filter and cabin filter needs replacement every year. Gear oil and differential oil requires change every 40k km. For the CVT-equipped WRX, CVT fluid change is required every 40k km.

Don’t just bring it to any auto shop. Bring it to shops that specialize on Subaru vehicles. Suggested shops are FusionR in QC, 2211 Performance in Manila, and GAT Performance in Parañaque.


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[StockEngine]

Basic oil change? Halos pareho lng naman.. 4-6L or so of oil.. the air filter and the ac filter might be more but not that much.

The brake pads will cost abit more but not that expensive.

Coolant change every 2years or so..

[Egan101]

Basic oil change? Halos pareho lng naman.. 4-6L or so of oil.. the air filter and the ac filter might be more but not that much.

The brake pads will cost abit more but not that expensive.

Coolant change every 2years or so..

You would need to buy 6L or 6 quarts of oil for the FA20. Prices vary from 400 to 700 per liter depending on the brand. The stock Subaru oil filter is 600.

For the brake pads, a Brembo OEM replacement costs around 4K for the front and 3k for the rear.


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[StockEngine]

Facts

[Egan101]

Facts

It pays to know your engine when you want to save in maintenance cost. I opted to service my FXT outside casa after its 2nd year.

Another thing to watch out with a Subie are the front lower arm bushings which usually give out around 30k km. Also, with a WRX, expect tires to wear out faster compared to other cars. You will be lucky to have those stock tires last 30k km specially if you like to drive with revs up to 6k rpm.


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[Kath_Tzikot]

thanks mga sir. ba't ung ibang nababasa ko parang ang OA ng PMS when it comes to subie but thanks on your inputs po. iniisip ko din from calamba pa ako so kelangan ko ata talaga dumayo ng paranaque for PMS if ever. BTW, will be buying a used unit, around 2015-2016 unit siguro and MT naman.

[travajante]

Happiness varies from 1 to another. Jut's advice is responsible, mature, calculated & sound....but there are those who live by Carpe Diem! It's really now or later....much later if a family happens in between.[emoji4]

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[joaquim]

Logical decision is prepare for your future like what sir jut have said. But by the time you have money again you have different priorities. By the time all priorities are finished and you have the opportunity again hindi na sa iyo bagay kasi matanda ka na :-)

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[travajante]

Logical decision is prepare for your future like what sir jut have said. But by the time you have money again you have different priorities. By the time all priorities are finished and you have the opportunity again hindi na sa iyo bagay kasi matanda ka na :-)

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Or the choices will all be hybrids & electrics, CVTs...all unDIYable....Plus, you'll miss out on the chance of a current turning vintage/classic in your hands.[emoji16]

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[Kath_Tzikot]

kaya ang ganda magpost ng thread dito sa tsikot eh, bukod sa my matututunan ka na, mas makakapagdecide ka pa talaga

[jut703]

Logical decision is prepare for your future like what sir jut have said. But by the time you have money again you have different priorities. By the time all priorities are finished and you have the opportunity again hindi na sa iyo bagay kasi matanda ka na :-)

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If in a few years you'll have different priorities (i.e. family), why will you blow your savings for a sports car now?

If you plan to have a child in 3-5 years and you forecast you will spend about 3M pesos for their early years, why not start saving now?

Pag ba bumili ka ng sports car now, mawawala na yung cost nung pagpapalaki ng bata in the future?

If you finish saving up for that 3M (or whatever amount you plan for), edi yung next savings mo pwede mo na pambili ng magandang kotse.

If you're mid-20s now and you delay buying a sports car for 5 years to ensure you have enough for your future plans first (i.e. family, house, etc), then you'll still be just in your early 30s by the time you buy a nice car. At that point, you'll have your important priorities covered AND still have a sports car.

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[travajante]

If in a few years you'll have different priorities (i.e. family), why will you blow your savings for a sports car now?

If you plan to have a child in 3-5 years and you forecast you will spend about 3M pesos for their early years, why not start saving now?

Pag ba bumili ka ng sports car now, mawawala na yung cost nung pagpapalaki ng bata in the future?

If you finish saving up for that 3M (or whatever amount you plan for), edi yung next savings mo pwede mo na pambili ng magandang kotse.

If you're mid-20s now and you delay buying a sports car for 5 years to ensure you have enough for your future plans first (i.e. family, house, etc), then you'll still be just in your early 30s by the time you buy a nice car. At that point, you'll have your important priorities covered AND still have a sports car.

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Always been that foolish guy who's reliant on The Lord's Wind blowing my sails. Hobo, yes....Happy, yes, too....Grateful? Very much so![emoji120][emoji120][emoji120][emoji120][emoji120]

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[Dr.Kamiya]

Sound but very hard to follow advise lol

IMO it's always a good idea to stockpile money first, even if you have no plans for kids. Simple fact that money earns more money. That hypothetical scenario of saving up P 3M first before buying your sports car: Even with no kids to send to school, putting that P 3M into a fund that earns 1% per month = P 30k/mo that you can put toward your installment payments. Invest enough money into a fund with a high enough yield and your sportscar is essentially "free" once your monthly capital gain exceeds the amortization payment.

[benchph1]

An FI car will cost more to maintain than an NA one. Mainly due to the FI car having higher engine temperature & oil pressure/temp during normal operation thus requiring shorter oil change intervals.

I have a friend who owns both cars and he confirms that the WRX do cost more to maintain. But interestingly for him the BRZ is more fun to drive.


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[Kath_Tzikot]

An FI car will cost more to maintain than an NA one. Mainly due to the FI car having higher engine temperature & oil pressure/temp during normal operation thus requiring shorter oil change intervals.

I have a friend who owns both cars and he confirms that the WRX do cost more to maintain. But interestingly for him the BRZ is more fun to drive.


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eyeing for the long term reliability and maintenance as well kaya di ko din maalis sa equation si brz. haha.

[Kath_Tzikot]

Usually mga sir, 2013-2016 ung nakikita kong brz/86 with low mileage. mas ok ba ung all stock or ung meron kahit konting mods? tapos ang hirap din makahanap ng merong complete PMS records

[Egan101]

Usually mga sir, 2013-2016 ung nakikita kong brz/86 with low mileage. mas ok ba ung all stock or ung meron kahit konting mods? tapos ang hirap din makahanap ng merong complete PMS records

The key thing about getting one in stock is that you can modify it to your liking or just keep it as it is. Mods usually don't increase the value of a used car. Also, the previous owner may not have done the mods properly. Yung exterior mods naman, baka mukha na masyadong ricey yung kotse.

Other option for a 2-door RWD car is a Nissan 370Z.

[travajante]

Usually mga sir, 2013-2016 ung nakikita kong brz/86 with low mileage. mas ok ba ung all stock or ung meron kahit konting mods? tapos ang hirap din makahanap ng merong complete PMS records

Those had bad valve-springs. There were cases where the engine conked or caught fire post-recall. Check the VIN(if affected) w/ the dealership that performed the recall & verify powertrain warranty on the work involved.
This Scion FR-S Went Up in Flames After Doing the Valve Spring Recall - The Drive
Scion FR-S, Subaru BRZ Owners Claim a Recall Fix Is Destroying Their Engines - The Drive
Not just the 86 & BRZ..Impreza & XV, too.

[travajante]

Those had bad valve-springs. There were cases where the engine conked or caught fire post-recall. Check w/ the dealership that performed the recall & verify powertrain warranty on the work involved.
This Scion FR-S Went Up in Flames After Doing the Valve Spring Recall - The Drive
Scion FR-S, Subaru BRZ Owners Claim a Recall Fix Is Destroying Their Engines - The Drive
Not just the 86 & BRZ..Impreza & XV, too.

Saga's ongoing.

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